phoenix66 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, redfire11 said: The Flames were going to get hurt either way with a Johnny decision. Too much $ and it kills our cap and team moving forward. Him leaving leaves us short a star. My preference is to not pay than overpay. On the question of does he get booed or applauded? He will get steamrolled. not over yet .. apparently the Johnny camp countered .. but they think its North of 11x8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames for life Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: not over yet .. apparently the Johnny camp countered .. but they think its North of 11x8 I’m struggling with that number and think it’s just a ploy to give an excuse not to stay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: not over yet .. apparently the Johnny camp countered .. but they think its North of 11x8 If the Flames cave to over 10.5 Goodbye Tkachuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, redfire11 said: If the Flames cave to over 10.5 Goodbye Tkachuk Tkachuk should be traded anyways for a Center or #1 LD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Well, it's official. Thanks for the memories Johnny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarasti Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 And its official. Frank Seravalli tweeted that Johnny is not returning. Time to focus on others now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarasti Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Sucks but now we have an extra 10M of cap to work with basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, Sarasti said: Sucks but now we have an extra 10M of cap to work with basically. BT with cap space during UFA season has been so cringe. We will wish we signed Gaudreau $13-mil-per instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Thanks Johnny. Was a treat to watch your first 8 seasons in the NHL. Brought fans out of their seats every time he had the puck on his stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 gonna be an interesting day tomorrow now ! like i said , i dont blame him .. I led the charge right next to Eric Francis for years that no way was he staying .. for the very reason hes leaving .. family and home . But hed made me switch sides this year ./. really believed wed sold him on staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, phoenix66 said: not over yet .. apparently the Johnny camp countered .. but they think its North of 11x8 Well, I am confused now. If it was north of 11, they would have just bitten the bullet. But it seems like he decided himself. Why all the back and forth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 treliving was very somber and emotional after interview on johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 If it's Philly for Gaudreau, at least Philly fans are the most rational fans in North America... Have fun, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 According to treliving it wasnt money it was cause Johnny wanted to be closer to family and i respect that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, travel_dude said: Well, I am confused now. If it was north of 11, they would have just bitten the bullet. But it seems like he decided himself. Why all the back and forth? From what I'm gathering..the agent and BT went back and forth ..they both liked the deal.. decision went to Johnny and he said at that time no he's gonna and stay closer to home Quote from the agent was " the flames left everything on the table ..nothing more they could have done " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: From what I'm gathering..the agent and BT went back and forth ..they both liked the deal.. decision went to Johnny and he said at that time no he's gonna and stay closer to home Quote from the agent was " the flames left everything on the table ..nothing more they could have done " That's quite the disconnect. Agent just got screwed out of extra money by his client not being honest. And he waited to the last minute to make that decision? BS. He knew exactly what was going to be offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: From what I'm gathering..the agent and BT went back and forth ..they both liked the deal.. decision went to Johnny and he said at that time no he's gonna and stay closer to home Quote from the agent was " the flames left everything on the table ..nothing more they could have done " I get that now, but it makes no sense that you put the agent in that position. What was the point of it? He got offers he won't get anywhere. They don't have to beat the Flames, just themselves. Or just be in the right zipcode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Malkin back in pitts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, The_Snowbear said: Malkin back in pitts Have a couple of #13 jerseys...going cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Well that sucks. I respect the decision, can’t be mad at a guy for wanting to be closer to family. Would have loved to see him be a Flames player for the rest of his career. I am sure it was a difficult decision and not something he made lightly. It was a nearly impossible position for Treliving to be in. He wasn’t going to trade Gaudreau at the deadline, and he had to do everything in his power to try and bring Gaudreau back to Calgary. Maybe he could have gotten a 2nd for Gaudreau’s rights at the draft, but I doubt it. I hope he has nothing but success wherever ends up and I enjoyed watching him play for the last 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robrob74 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, The_Snowbear said: According to treliving it wasnt money it was cause Johnny wanted to be closer to family and i respect that should’ve told the flames sooner. I guess I felt it would be the case that he’d leave. I hoped the flames did enough this past season for more success, but hindsight never works snd many of us called to trade him to get stuff for him. I guess one year of playoff money is worth the compensation in a trade last year or the year before. we don’t know what the team looks like once the summer is over. We’ll see … but I wanna see a rebuild done right. Bad way to start one though, no pick in this draft in the first two rounds? Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, robrob74 said: should’ve told the flames sooner. I guess I felt it would be the case that he’d leave. I hoped the flames did enough this past season for more success, but hindsight never works snd many of us called to trade him to get stuff for him. I guess one year of playoff money is worth the compensation in a trade last year or the year before. we don’t know what the team looks like once the summer is over. We’ll see … but I wanna see a rebuild done right. Bad way to start one though, no pick in this draft in the first two rounds? Oh well we were in and out of the playoffs every few years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 hours ago, redfire11 said: The Flames were going to get hurt either way with a Johnny decision. Too much $ and it kills our cap and team moving forward. Him leaving leaves us short a star. My preference is to not pay than overpay. On the question of does he get booed or applauded? He will get steamrolled. I agree, it was going to be too much $$ for far to long...........and it's sad to see him go today, hurts either way. Flames still have JHG's $80M in their pocket ready to invest when the time is right. We missed our window (JHG, Monahan, Bennet), we were hopeful to win with these players but we failed. If the organization chooses a total tear down/ rebuild I'd be okay with that because I'm not seeing the replacement players presently in our org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames for life Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, robrob74 said: should’ve told the flames sooner. I guess I felt it would be the case that he’d leave. I hoped the flames did enough this past season for more success, but hindsight never works snd many of us called to trade him to get stuff for him. I guess one year of playoff money is worth the compensation in a trade last year or the year before. we don’t know what the team looks like once the summer is over. We’ll see … but I wanna see a rebuild done right. Bad way to start one though, no pick in this draft in the first two rounds? Oh well Did I miss something? How did we lose the first two picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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