The Unconditional Positivity Thread

[jjgallow]

Does posting negative stuff about the Oilers count?

[redfire11]

Kinda think their black home jersey's are cool

[conundrumed]

11 hours ago, jjgallow said:

Does posting negative stuff about the Oilers count?

Nope. I have zero desire to discuss the Oilers on a Flames board.

That's why I started a Wings thread, lol, won't give the Oilers the time of day.

[travel_dude]

Not sure why this thread is so controversial.  

It's a positivity thread.

Every other thread is negative in comments these days.

While the results have been meh, we have a solid team built to win.

When they figure it out and rejig the team back to a scoring threat team, we will dominate.

The league is too dynamic in scoring to always play for 2-1 games.

No team can do that every night.

[nevermissashift]

15 hours ago, redfire11 said:

Kinda think their black home jersey's are cool

Coilers

[nevermissashift]

3 games 3 points slipped away.
i am hoping (and the flames too i bet) that they gel defensively and in scoring goals for the playoffs right through to cup champions. 

 

... and i must add goaltending too. that's alot of things to come together all at the right time, and that is what the team, coach, and managment are planning, and what we are seeing, and hoping for. It's fun watching a team develop. 

[nevermissashift]

On 12/14/2022 at 4:51 AM, conundrumed said:

Time to turn this thing around!!

Gotta keep the lineup consistent, end the only consistency being lack of scoring and penalties and start crushing this thing.

We have the parts, pump the confidence and let's Blockchaining go boys!!!

 

I think it's to early to put it in high gear. Keep laying things out and building while there is lots of time. The time we want to see the throttle pulled too max is just before the playoffs, and right through the cup. 

[nevermissashift]

On 12/13/2022 at 2:49 AM, conundrumed said:

sudden deathWings fans talk a ton about adjusting 3-on-3 and I agree. Once yo cross the red line, no passing back behind it is probably the best one. A shot clock? 10 minutes? Using the whole ice should stop for the team with the puck.

At any rate, we’re 13-16, good for what, 20th in the league. I didn’t expect the Wings to be the better team.

The strength of schedule argument has been flushed.

I might like the sounds of that red line rule in 3 on 3 OT. The shot clock idea might create anxiety and foolish plays. The 10 minute OT would be OK as a replacement for the shootout spectacle (it's not hockey). 

I would be all for losing the shootout spectacle altogether, even while keeping the 5 minute sudden death with 4 on 4. 3 on 3 isn't a part of the game either. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A TIE. This extra point thing is not professional. Maybe the post Betman era with return to more credibility. All what I think is a positive opinion of course. 

[nevermissashift]

All the players need to have 3 effective 'moves' for the goalie. Practice them All the time. Whenever an opportunity arises with the goalie, the little voice says, "I have an act for you buddy." Good acting convinces the goalie, then you lie to him again by changing backhand to forehand once... or quickly back again but then raise it even though your body lies that it is going along the ice;

Slicing or pulling a change up in mid shot after you act that it's going glove, you lie midshot and pull it into the stick corner high;

Your body form says the puck is going to go low, then you curl the stick with your finger and up it goes.

 

The neat thing about it is you can choose to go where you are acting or not, if the goalie is cheating, or out of position. Act, convince, lie. You've got all those things going for you! 

 

Nobody can react that fast once they have committed to your act, your performance, your midstream lie 😜🙃🤥

[nevermissashift]

Now that's positive. 

[travel_dude]

They practice the shootout all the time, but I don't think it's as simple as having a few moves.

Every goalie has a book.

Sutter decides on the shootout based on who's going that game.

He must have seen something with Dube and Hiberdeau and Backlund.

But, I think we have guys never used that are much better first choices.

Mange for his high blocker shot.

Ruzicka for his hard shot.

Ras for puck control.

 

Unfortunately, the belief is you need to shoot from in close.

I think creativity is frowned upon during the game, so the players aren't used to it for the SO.

[nevermissashift]

2 hours ago, travel_dude said:

They practice the shootout all the time, but I don't think it's as simple as having a few moves.

Every goalie has a book.

Sutter decides on the shootout based on who's going that game.

He must have seen something with Dube and Hiberdeau and Backlund.

But, I think we have guys never used that are much better first choices.

Mange for his high blocker shot.

Ruzicka for his hard shot.

Ras for puck control.

 

Unfortunately, the belief is you need to shoot from in close.

I think creativity is frowned upon during the game, so the players aren't used to it for the SO.

i don't think its merely having a move; its what i said above; GREED?  

the common approach to the shootout by so many players is not really fantastic; that lollygagging serpentine is flippin useless (negative); just a little bit less than entertaining. When would that happen in hockey? 

creativity is icon in hockey. 

can't understand anything else. 

[nevermissashift]

Having moves that work isn't simple, it's 99% half mental, and it takes a lot of effort to act. 

[nevermissashift]

Anybody really get what i mean? 

[travel_dude]

2 hours ago, nevermissashift said:

i don't think its merely having a move; its what i said above; GREED?  

the common approach to the shootout by so many players is not really fantastic; that lollygagging serpentine is flippin useless (negative); just a little bit less than entertaining. When would that happen in hockey? 

creativity is icon in hockey. 

can't understand anything else. 

 

I didn't like how they executed.

Hubey waited too long to deke.

Both Dube and Backlund flipped the backhand from a near impossible angle.

10% shot, but unlike in game, there is no rebound.

I think trying to stop a straight on backhand is almost impossible.

Not what they tried. 

[travel_dude]

2 hours ago, nevermissashift said:

Having moves that work isn't simple, it's 99% half mental, and it takes a lot of effort to act. 

 

2 hours ago, nevermissashift said:

Anybody really get what i mean? 

 

I get it.

There are some players that can pull it off.

Fake snap shot.

Deke one way, but really go the other.

Ras has a move I like, it really pulls the goalie out and leaves open a hole.

If you cut enough at the right time, it opens up the 5 hole.

We have guys that can do it, but I think they lose the thoughts in the moment.

[nevermissashift]

2 hours ago, travel_dude said:

 

 

I get it.

There are some players that can pull it off.

Fake snap shot.

Deke one way, but really go the other.

Ras has a move I like, it really pulls the goalie out and leaves open a hole.

If you cut enough at the right time, it opens up the 5 hole.

We have guys that can do it, but I think they lose the thoughts in the moment.

Thats right you get it, and sometimes lead the goalie into the move after deke, and then the quick final move. 

Ya Raz can seem to pull the goalie kinda out of the net and it looks like he's going to simply go around him but he raises it; too much room, not enough goalie 😁

 

I like how you put it, "... they lose the thoughts in the moment." 

That is what they have to practice, coming in tightly covered, and fast, and have those thoughts embossed in their minds as part of the play. 

I think all of them are capable of it. Practice it. 

[conundrumed]

Huge 4 game set in California. Need all 4 W's in convincing fashion.

The clock is ticking on which direction this season goes.

Can't keep coming up with excuses.

Either we grab this bull by the horns or we keep playing like whatever this is.

Loser points are no way to gain traction.

The last thing I'll do is blame goaltending. If we need stellar G every night, we don't belong.

Everyone playing for an assist. 

I'm ready to stand naked in net and let every Flame shoot at me from the hashmarks.

They'll miss.

[robrob74]

1 minute ago, conundrumed said:

Huge 4 game set in California. Need all 4 W's in convincing fashion.

The clock is ticking on which direction this season goes.

Can't keep coming up with excuses.

Either we grab this bull by the horns or we keep playing like whatever this is.

Loser points are no way to gain traction.

The last thing I'll do is blame goaltending. If we need stellar G every night, we don't belong.

Everyone playing for an assist. 

I'm ready to stand naked in net and let every Flame shoot at me from the hashmarks.

They'll miss.

theyll ring your bells or miss the net completely. you'd make the save though. Their shots are either to the middle or miss the net...

 

they're good at three things. Passing, shooting wide or over the net, and shooting middle of the net and two feet off the ice for shot practice... 

[travel_dude]

9 minutes ago, conundrumed said:

Huge 4 game set in California. Need all 4 W's in convincing fashion.

The clock is ticking on which direction this season goes.

Can't keep coming up with excuses.

Either we grab this bull by the horns or we keep playing like whatever this is.

Loser points are no way to gain traction.

The last thing I'll do is blame goaltending. If we need stellar G every night, we don't belong.

Everyone playing for an assist. 

I'm ready to stand naked in net and let every Flame shoot at me from the hashmarks.

They'll miss.

 

It's funny how easy it would be to forget the latest losing streak.

Simply by winning 4 in a row.

The Sutter effect in games is starting to wear on me.

Up one or down one, we play to hold the puck and slow down the play.

Follow up a goal with a shift from the 4th line.

Got a PP?  Stand around and pass it around until we miss a pass.

 

We don't have the same high level goaltending as last year.

Part of that is poor defensive play and being prone to a forecheck.

But the other part is we are playing for 2-1 games every night.

No Tanev that is almost impossible but anyway it's not this NHL.

4-2, 5-4, 4-1, 6-2 is much more likely.

Sutter seems stuck on 2-1 games, he say's it every presser.

The PP can't convert, but he says it's because we have no finishers.

Maybe it's the outdated PP setup and strategy.

2nd unit, get ot to Stone for the slapper, yet we have dynamic players out there.

1st unit is pass it around, look for the shot from the circle, but never get close to the net.

Kept it at the high circle close to the boards.

Never start to encroach from the line.

Ras is just passing it to a wing.

Never moving in at all.

 

At some point you have to give up a plan that isn't working or designed with the team we have.

Hubey was a passer, but he's on a different yeam and maybe needs to start going to the net.

Maybe attack on the rush, where we are more successful.

Mayb stop shutting down offence with a one goal lead.

Maybe only activate one D at a time.

 

[nevermissashift]

2 hours ago, conundrumed said:

Huge 4 game set in California. Need all 4 W's in convincing fashion.

The clock is ticking on which direction this season goes.

Can't keep coming up with excuses.

Either we grab this bull by the horns or we keep playing like whatever this is.

Loser points are no way to gain traction.

The last thing I'll do is blame goaltending. If we need stellar G every night, we don't belong.

Everyone playing for an assist. 

I'm ready to stand naked in net and let every Flame shoot at me from the hashmarks.

They'll miss.

excellent! 

100% on all counts👍

[nevermissashift]

2 hours ago, robrob74 said:

theyll ring your bells or miss the net completely. you'd make the save though. Their shots are either to the middle or miss the net...

 

they're good at three things. Passing, shooting wide or over the net, and shooting middle of the net and two feet off the ice for shot practice... 

that is dang well true but are you keeping positive? 

i'd like to see Huber tuck one of those nifty back passes into the net. now that's creativity. 

[nevermissashift]

2 hours ago, travel_dude said:

 

It's funny how easy it would be to forget the latest losing streak.

Simply by winning 4 in a row.

The Sutter effect in games is starting to wear on me.

Up one or down one, we play to hold the puck and slow down the play.

Follow up a goal with a shift from the 4th line.

Got a PP?  Stand around and pass it around until we miss a pass.

 

We don't have the same high level goaltending as last year.

Part of that is poor defensive play and being prone to a forecheck.

But the other part is we are playing for 2-1 games every night.

No Tanev that is almost impossible but anyway it's not this NHL.

4-2, 5-4, 4-1, 6-2 is much more likely.

Sutter seems stuck on 2-1 games, he say's it every presser.

The PP can't convert, but he says it's because we have no finishers.

Maybe it's the outdated PP setup and strategy.

2nd unit, get ot to Stone for the slapper, yet we have dynamic players out there.

1st unit is pass it around, look for the shot from the circle, but never get close to the net.

Kept it at the high circle close to the boards.

Never start to encroach from the line.

Ras is just passing it to a wing.

Never moving in at all.

 

At some point you have to give up a plan that isn't working or designed with the team we have.

Hubey was a passer, but he's on a different yeam and maybe needs to start going to the net.

Maybe attack on the rush, where we are more successful.

Mayb stop shutting down offence with a one goal lead.

Maybe only activate one D at a time.

 

THUMBS UP AND LIKE👍 for you moderator!

 

You said it all. The point I was going to make fits in there somewhere; they shoot mostly from the points or wide in the circle. THE AREA OF THE NET GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER THE WIDER YOU GO GO GO!

Ya, rush the net somebody. 

All us us have watched and played enough hockey to know that creativity is paramount, and, "When you go to the net, GO TO THE NET. Don't dipsy doodle lolly gag your way there. 

It'll start happening. 

[robrob74]

19 minutes ago, nevermissashift said:

that is dang well true but are you keeping positive? 

i'd like to see Huber tuck one of those nifty back passes into the net. now that's creativity. 

 

yes! I was saying all of the things they're really good at! 

 

🤪

[nevermissashift]

1 hour ago, robrob74 said:

 

yes! I was saying all of the things they're really good at! 

 

🤪

right on😆