The_People1 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, phoenix66 said: And is it just me or did the realistic trades thread just recently just vanish ? I could swear it was there yesterday Having some issues. Will look to bring the thread back. If not then maybe start a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, phoenix66 said: And is it just me or did the realistic trades thread just recently just vanish ? I could swear it was there yesterday The "realistic" part of that thread occasionally disappears for certain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I seem to remember Pachal being at a development camp a few years back. An upgrade on what DeSimone brought, I think. EDIT- here it is https://www.discoverestevan.com/articles/brayden-pachal-turns-strong-development-camp-into-spot-on-flames-rookie-roster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Depth that is likely going to be needed so to address it for free is nice. is under contract for next year as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 52 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: I seem to remember Pachal being at a development camp a few years back. An upgrade on what DeSimone brought, I think. EDIT- here it is https://www.discoverestevan.com/articles/brayden-pachal-turns-strong-development-camp-into-spot-on-flames-rookie-roster High chance it's also means a Tanev trade may be close 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otown72 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 24 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: High chance it's also means a Tanev trade may be close Yes, agree. Either way it is good depth insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 There's your center for awhile .. Rooney ready to go... And it will be good to get Pelts back in there finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Rooney - meh I am a little concerned that we called up both Smindt and Rooney. I suppose you could play Schwindt on RW. I just hope it doesn't mean we bump up the 2 and 3C to 1 and 2, then run Rooney with Mange/Coleman. That would be a nightmare scenario. Not sure what they do wiht the lines now. Just spitballing: Huberdeau-Sharky-Pelletier Zary-Kadri-Kuzmenko Mange-Backs-Coleman Pospisil-Rooney-Schwindt I don't know it really makes sense, since Pelts is not a top minutes player. Swap Pelletier with Kuzmenko might be a better idea. Or swap Pelletier with Pospisil and keep the original Kadri line. Pelts would play less EV minutes, and may get only some PP time extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Think the Rooney call up is just to have a natural center on the roster just in case. You are either running Schwindt or your moving Sharangovich to the middle and if it doesn't work what's the plan? Especially as Conroy made it clear he's not a fan of moving Zary or Pospisil to the middle right now. Need to have a center on the roster. Be surprised if you see Rooney every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Should be interesting for awhile .. I know the "never say never " applies but to brewo up Kadri /Zary and Backlund/Coleman ..just makes no sense .. don't interrupt what's already working .. Pelletier needs to play up the lineup .he's not a checker so he needs to play in the top 6 or may as well let him play in the A if you're not.. may not get the minutes at first but he needs to be up there .. I think you'll see a committee on top line center .. Kadri may pull extra duty.. Rooney may not be a "#1 center " but let's be honest, we don't have one now ..I can see Rooney seeing the bulk of the work as he is at least defensively responsible and can limit the chances the other 2 will bleed while they do their thing . Yegor should get a crack at it ..If he can do it that opens up the option of giving Huberdeau both yegor and Andrei to dish to.. It may have just been jitters ..but schwindt did not look good in his time up so far .. of be surprised if he's used much above the 4th line to some time to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 why are Kadri/Zary getting broken up? Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko Hubererdeau - Sharangovich - Pospisil Mang- Backs - Coleman Pelletier - Schwindt - Duehr Once Pelletier is up to speed swap him and Pospisil PP1 Kuzmenko Huberdeau - Kadri - Sharangovich Weegar If Huberdeau/Kuzemko click on the PP then you can reassess them at 5 on 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 I think with the moves they will be going with more of balanced approach to the lines. Huberdeau-Kadri-Sharangovich Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman Zary-Schwindt-Kuzmenko Pelletier-Rooney-Pospisil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, cross16 said: Think the Rooney call up is just to have a natural center on the roster just in case. You are either running Schwindt or your moving Sharangovich to the middle and if it doesn't work what's the plan? Especially as Conroy made it clear he's not a fan of moving Zary or Pospisil to the middle right now. Need to have a center on the roster. Be surprised if you see Rooney every game. 1 hour ago, cross16 said: why are Kadri/Zary getting broken up? Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko Hubererdeau - Sharangovich - Pospisil Mang- Backs - Coleman Pelletier - Schwindt - Duehr Once Pelletier is up to speed swap him and Pospisil PP1 Kuzmenko Huberdeau - Kadri - Sharangovich Weegar If Huberdeau/Kuzemko click on the PP then you can reassess them at 5 on 5. Maybe it's a simple as needing to put a shooter with Kadri. Pospisil is a good finisher for greasy goals, but his shot is not top marks. This sets up Kadri as more of a playmaker for Kuz or a finisher for Zary. Whatever. In this version, Pospisil adds a level of grit to Huberdeau's line and allows for some greasy goals. I don't know the logic of it all. Pelletier IIRC played LW to Huberdeau's LW last year. But this lineup is in flux, because I think we see some more trades involving D. The return could include F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 47 minutes ago, travel_dude said: Maybe it's a simple as needing to put a shooter with Kadri. Pospisil is a good finisher for greasy goals, but his shot is not top marks. This sets up Kadri as more of a playmaker for Kuz or a finisher for Zary. Whatever. In this version, Pospisil adds a level of grit to Huberdeau's line and allows for some greasy goals. I don't know the logic of it all. Pelletier IIRC played LW to Huberdeau's LW last year. But this lineup is in flux, because I think we see some more trades involving D. The return could include F. Tbh..I can see it all.. discussing ideal line is great and all.. but in reality when you move you number one center and one , maybe two of your best dmen is imminent.. you've shown you've accepted "next year " mode .. Throw it all in a blender .. give pelts and others a crack at the top line ..I still say play them where you want the to end up.. pelts is a top line prospect..play him in the top line .. kuzmenko is the potential to be your top goal scorer , play him like it ..etc.. Obviously you play to win every game..but if they can keep the games exciting and competitive..but still lose , then you win in all cases.. losing never becomes acceptable . You find out what these kids are capable of and where they are at ...who can be a key part and who they can cut bait on . I'd move to a top line of Huberdeau -yegor-Kuzmenko.. put Pelletier on the right of Kadri and Zary.. get some excitement going and get into a better lottery position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 For all the talk about creativity in the off-season I think Huska has turned out to be as rigid as Sutter Don't understand the mentality here when your 5 points out of the playoffs, 5-5 in your last 10, have played some brutal hockey going into the break and just lost one of your top centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 13 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: I'd move to a top line of Huberdeau -yegor-Kuzmenko. This is a line I would like to see 13 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: put Pelletier on the right of Kadri and Zary Prospisil played so well with Kadri and Zary I would stick with that line . Maybe even consider Pelletier instead of Zary but again hate to break up what works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Huberdeau-Sharangovich-Kuzmenko Zary-Kadri-Pospisil Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman Rooney/Pelletier-Schwindt-Duehr — Julian McKenzie (@jkamckenzie) February 5, 2024 Just saw this!! excited to see how it plays out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Looks like Pachal will play right away. Which is a positive because it means less Osterle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 10 minutes ago, redfire11 said: This is a line I would like to see Prospisil played so well with Kadri and Zary I would stick with that line . Maybe even consider Pelletier instead of Zary but again hate to break up what works. Again.. not looking for ideal..were looking for what these kids can do in the roles they expect to grow Into.. flip Pelletier and Zary back and forth is ok.. want to see what chemistry pelts and Huberdeau can increase on.. Let em make mistakes ..that's how they learn ..and they learn better with no fear of benchings or demotions Definitely keep the Backlund / Coleman shut down line together as you're gonna need it Pospisil can move up dand down the lineup.. I like him in the 4th simply becaue he brings energy and pestiness while still being dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, cross16 said: Looks like Pachal will play right away. Which is a positive because it means less Osterle. Well, back to the pre-trade lines, except for the Sharky line. Interesting to see that Rooney being used more as a LW. Allows for measured use of Pelletier to start. I think they like to have Rooney there as a backup only for now. Give the kids as much chance to see what they are. Also good to see them drawing in Pachal right away. He's a minus 2 this year, with a -1 against CGY that last game. It's a team stat, but less Oesterle and Gilbert, more Kylington and Pachal. Pachal described as a physical player to Kylington's puck moving style. If the eventual move is to bring Pelletier to top 6 RW, I hope they try him out on the 4th line there. Would like him to get reps on RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 52 minutes ago, cross16 said: Looks like Pachal will play right away. Which is a positive because it means less Osterle. Anything is better than Oesterle, one of the worst defensemen I can recall playing for the Flames in recent memory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, cross16 said: For all the talk about creativity in the off-season I think Huska has turned out to be as rigid as Sutter Don't understand the mentality here when your 5 points out of the playoffs, 5-5 in your last 10, have played some brutal hockey going into the break and just lost one of your top centers. I like your lineup, just not sure of the makeup of the 4th line. Huberdeau (LH-LW) - Sharangovich (LH-LW/C/RW) - Kuzmenko (LH - LW/RW) Zary (LH - LW/C) - Kadri (LH-C) - Pospisil (LH - RW) Mangiapane (LH-LW/RW) - Backlund (LH-C) - Coleman (LH-RW/LW) Pelletier (LH-LW) - Rooney (LH-C) - Schwindt (RH-RW/C - Duehr (RH-RW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, cross16 said: For all the talk about creativity in the off-season I think Huska has turned out to be as rigid as Sutter Don't understand the mentality here when your 5 points out of the playoffs, 5-5 in your last 10, have played some brutal hockey going into the break and just lost one of your top centers. Well, let's consider for the moment that the top line over that stretch was minus most games. When they didn't score, they bled goals. To be fair, the Backlund line also has bled some goals in the losses. I can't be certain how much Lindholm's struggles this year are the cause of the top line issues. They have moved around players there all season. I'm interested to see if there is anything good from the new top line. Just because it means no changes to the Kadri line. Ultimately, we are down a 1C. Sharky is not that guy, and at best he can score as much as he did. So, we add via a Hanifin and/or Tanev trade. I'm wondering if it's time to move on from Mangiapane too. He's not scoring now, even though Coleman is. I'm a little worried too that Huska looks like Sutter in being rigid. Love affair for Oesterle. The rigid use of players on the PP is annoying. The lack of execution is mind numbing. May be more on Savard, but who is the head coach. Is he taking a long view with the team to this point or just moving players around? Can't find the right fit for Huberdeau, and his play with Backlund wasn't inspiring. The kids have fit like a glove with Kadri, and only the injury to Pospisil has messed it up. They had a bad stretch in December, but Vladar and Wolf were the starters. He's at least willing to play kids this year. Not a lot of choice I guess. Yanking up and down Coronato is annoying. He has to be a better player, but no idea what the plan is with him. Not learning by being sent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cross16 Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 25 minutes ago, travel_dude said: I think the Huberdeau line is going to get caved in at 5 on 5. Hopefully Huska plans lots of O zone starts for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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