jjgallow Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/ken-holland-oilers-evander-kane-nhl-1.6311188 this is just fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, jjgallow said: https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/ken-holland-oilers-evander-kane-nhl-1.6311188 this is just fantastic He believes in 2nd chances. What about 4th chances. Ask Winnipeg. Ask Buffalo. Ask San Jose. 4th time is a charm. It would be a fantasic place for Kane. Casino attached to Roger's Place. Doesn't even have to go outside to bet. Underground parking at the rink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, travel_dude said: He believes in 2nd chances. What about 4th chances. Ask Winnipeg. Ask Buffalo. Ask San Jose. 4th time is a charm. It would be a fantasic place for Kane. Casino attached to Roger's Place. Doesn't even have to go outside to bet. Underground parking at the rink. Super excited for Oilers now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, jjgallow said: Super excited for Oilers now lol Can you imagine the room? Kane has to sit in a folding chair by himself. Not allowed to speak between periods. Gap on either side of him on the bench. Would be a few unexplained black eyes on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 Well if he isn't willing to use good assets in trade (said today he isn't dealing their first rounder or top prospects) he's pretty limited in trying to win in this window they are in. Brining in someone like Kane is kind of all he can do. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, travel_dude said: Can you imagine the room? Kane has to sit in a folding chair by himself. Not allowed to speak between periods. Gap on either side of him on the bench. Would be a few unexplained black eyes on the roster. lol he might just fit right in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medatswhoP Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 What a disaster is correct, and the biggest mention is the distraction that they still haven't figured out they need to improve Goaltending This might turn into a comedy once again for the Soilers lol. Can't wait to see the self destruct detonate once again. Holland / Chiarelli ? Same chemistry... lol. Welcome to the "Ole boys club once again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_People1 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Too good to be true. Also the Oilers have no cap space. Is Kane literally signing for league minimum?... Hope it's at least $3-mil for the rest of this season and cause the Oilers to drop someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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travel_dude Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, sak22 said: How does Tim Peel become an insider? Especially when it comes to a player whose contract was terminated. What I am less clear about is what the deal is with the player's immediate future. The NHLPA filed a grievance. One would think that he can't sign or play with a team while this is still in play. If he wins the appear, then he is a Shark in the AHL. But what do I know. As much as the NHL despises Kane for his antics, they won't just let it drop. If anything, holding him until the grienance is decided is what they would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sak22 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, travel_dude said: How does Tim Peel become an insider? Especially when it comes to a player whose contract was terminated. Perfect career transition, as a ref he knew a penalty was coming before an infraction occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, travel_dude said: How does Tim Peel become an insider? Especially when it comes to a player whose contract was terminated. What I am less clear about is what the deal is with the player's immediate future. The NHLPA filed a grievance. One would think that he can't sign or play with a team while this is still in play. If he wins the appear, then he is a Shark in the AHL. But what do I know. As much as the NHL despises Kane for his antics, they won't just let it drop. If anything, holding him until the grienance is decided is what they would do. I was under the impression that the bank owns his contract because he declared bankruptcy. He owes the banks over $30-million or so. He wouldn't have seen any of that money anyways? ...but if he signs a brand new contract, then different story? Could this have been a big act to give the banks the finger and then sign a new deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, The_People1 said: I was under the impression that the bank owns his contract because he declared bankruptcy. He owes the banks over $30-million or so. He wouldn't have seen any of that money anyways? ...but if he signs a brand new contract, then different story? Could this have been a big act to give the banks the finger and then sign a new deal? I want to say he's out of luck and that won't work. But I don't actually know what happens when he gets a contract in a different country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 15 hours ago, The_People1 said: Too good to be true. Also the Oilers have no cap space. Is Kane literally signing for league minimum?... Hope it's at least $3-mil for the rest of this season and cause the Oilers to drop someone else. Sounds like when Kane signs it's going to be for something small, like 1 million. No one seems to be suggesting he's going to get anything more than that. Oilers have sufficient LTIR space to sign that type of deal as it does not sound like Klefbom will play at all this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, cross16 said: Sounds like when Kane signs it's going to be for something small, like 1 million. No one seems to be suggesting he's going to get anything more than that. Oilers have sufficient LTIR space to sign that type of deal as it does not sound like Klefbom will play at all this year. His agent is looking for 2-3m supposedly. But that is just the public response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, travel_dude said: His agent is looking for 2-3m supposedly. But that is just the public response. Interesting.. not sure why anyone would give him that but I guess we'll see. Be more interested to see how the PA treats this. Kane had over 15 mill left on his contract and I can't imagine he's every going to get anywhere close to that ever again. How can the PA and Kane's reps be ok that the Sharks just get to walk away from all of that? I imagine the NHL is more ok with it, but it also sets a big of a dangers precedent they will want to make sure they have some control over. Hard to see this being simple. Edit: Looks like it won't be. NHL now investigating Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, cross16 said: Interesting.. not sure why anyone would give him that but I guess we'll see. Be more interested to see how the PA treats this. Kane had over 15 mill left on his contract and I can't imagine he's every going to get anywhere close to that ever again. How can the PA and Kane's reps be ok that the Sharks just get to walk away from all of that? I imagine the NHL is more ok with it, but it also sets a big of a dangers precedent they will want to make sure they have some control over. Hard to see this being simple. Edit: Looks like it won't be. NHL now investigating Kane Why haven't other teams spoken out about this? Just like the Kings and Mike Richards, the Sharks should face some kind of cap penalty, even $1-mil for next 4-years. How can everyone be okay the Sharks can just terminate the contract instead of buying him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, cross16 said: Interesting.. not sure why anyone would give him that but I guess we'll see. Be more interested to see how the PA treats this. Kane had over 15 mill left on his contract and I can't imagine he's every going to get anywhere close to that ever again. How can the PA and Kane's reps be ok that the Sharks just get to walk away from all of that? I imagine the NHL is more ok with it, but it also sets a big of a dangers precedent they will want to make sure they have some control over. Hard to see this being simple. Edit: Looks like it won't be. NHL now investigating Kane Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. They looked for and found a way to get out from under it. I don't think h could even sign with another team while a grievance is in place. What I also don't know is whether the arbitor can invalidate SJ's termination. If they were able to do that, he is a Sharks player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Why haven't other teams spoken out about this? Just like the Kings and Mike Richards, the Sharks should face some kind of cap penalty, even $1-mil for next 4-years. How can everyone be okay the Sharks can just terminate the contract instead of buying him out? My guess is they have just not publicly and that is why today you are hearing that now the NHL is investigating. I will be shocked if the Sharks get to walk away from this but I also have never seen an NHL contract so i'm not sure what type of language is in there about breach. With Richards it was about 3 months before they reached a settlement after the PA filled a grievance over the termination, which I believe they ether have or plan to do with Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, The_People1 said: Why haven't other teams spoken out about this? Just like the Kings and Mike Richards, the Sharks should face some kind of cap penalty, even $1-mil for next 4-years. How can everyone be okay the Sharks can just terminate the contract instead of buying him out? I am totally speculating but maybe the wording of the contract is such that it is only owed to the individual, and cannot be legally extended to a bank. And this might be something Kane has to agree to. In otherwords, terminating a player where the player agrees not to be bought out. Since it would go to a third party not part of the contract. You can garnish wages in bankruptcy but I am not sure if garnishing future contracts is as clear. Now switch up countries, and they may just have a loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 You guys know this won't be over until the Oilers hire Mike Danton as head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 22 hours ago, travel_dude said: Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. They looked for and found a way to get out from under it. I don't think h could even sign with another team while a grievance is in place. What I also don't know is whether the arbitor can invalidate SJ's termination. If they were able to do that, he is a Sharks player. If they end up having to keep him. They could just trade them to the Oilers and retain half of the contract. Maybe they get another team involved and have them retain. Maybe they don't care if there is any compensation coming back? They just want out? I guess half a contract is still a tough loss for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, robrob74 said: If they end up having to keep him. They could just trade them to the Oilers and retain half of the contract. Maybe they get another team involved and have them retain. Maybe they don't care if there is any compensation coming back? They just want out? I guess half a contract is still a tough loss for the team. The only viable option was for EDM to sign him to a cheap deal. They only have LTIR space, not real cap space. A deal less than $1m makes sense. If they need to trade and have a team retain, they would need to give up a 1st plaus the reade value. They are not going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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