travel_dude Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 33 minutes ago, LouCifer said: I mentioned before that I had a feeling Marky and Tanev could be traded together. If the holdup was retention on Marky for NJ, we could definitely retain on Tanev in a package deal - for a bigger return of course. Salary cap is also going up over $4M next season, so any additional salary an acquiring team takes on isn’t as unmanageable as they’d like everyone to believe. I don't think Tanev helps them. The retention is more about next year. Dougie out allows them to take on Markstrom with zero issues. I like you suggestions though to get a better return. But overall, I think we can deal Marky by himself. Tanev should be worth a 1st as well as Hanifin. Not just a 1st, but can't be greeedy. If BT was here, would we see the same team? Would we have Sharky and Kuz, or some 30 year old? Would he be trying to add at TDL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, travel_dude said: I don't think Tanev helps them. The retention is more about next year. Dougie out allows them to take on Markstrom with zero issues. I like you suggestions though to get a better return. But overall, I think we can deal Marky by himself. Tanev should be worth a 1st as well as Hanifin. Not just a 1st, but can't be greeedy. If BT was here, would we see the same team? Would we have Sharky and Kuz, or some 30 year old? Would he be trying to add at TDL? Well the ask on Tanev is a 2nd + prospect. Markstrom is a wildcard. He could get 1st + prospect + NHL player. Add on Tanev and things can upgrade from there. NJD has good prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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travel_dude Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 26 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Well the ask on Tanev is a 2nd + prospect. Markstrom is a wildcard. He could get 1st + prospect + NHL player. Add on Tanev and things can upgrade from there. NJD has good prospects. But why would they need Tanev? They have cap. A rental? I suppose. I think the ask is higher than a 2nd plus a prospect unless we are talking A prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, travel_dude said: But why would they need Tanev? They have cap. A rental? I suppose. I think the ask is higher than a 2nd plus a prospect unless we are talking A prospect. Maybe they don't want Tanev. But I think most teams would want to add NHL D going into the playoffs. For a deep run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Not surprised there are teams asking about Andersson. I don’t think the Flames can do that at this point. Andersson and Weegar are the only D with term. They need them right now. It might make sense to explore at the next TDL, but not right now IMO. Besides I’m not sure this is the draft where you’d want to have as many as four 1st round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 13 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said: Not surprised there are teams asking about Andersson. I don’t think the Flames can do that at this point. Andersson and Weegar are the only D with term. They need them right now. It might make sense to explore at the next TDL, but not right now IMO. Besides I’m not sure this is the draft where you’d want to have as many as four 1st round picks. I agree.. people are just making clickbait headlines now .. are teams calling about Anderson? Of course they are .. is Conny hanging up the phone ? Probabaly I agree anybody is on the table with a good offer ..but Anderson is definitely not someone Conroy is dangling to teams right now Only reason Hanifin is out there is it's obvious he turned down the offer or he'd be off the table too I think you can even pinpoint the last game of the roadtrip as when he gave his decision..hanifin was a beast on that roadtrip.. suddenly the entire team is mailing it in since theyve been home .. They can say all the right things but it's obvious the team is playing with the knowledge that he , tanev and likey markstrom are playing their last games waiting for the hammer to fall ... Even Tanev is mailing it in Nonis has been at the last 3 Bruins games ..I think that's where hanifin is going .. I can sense a sign and trade coming there .. they're poor in picks so that would elevate it to top prospects and roster players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, phoenix66 said: I agree.. people are just making clickbait headlines now .. are teams calling about Anderson? Of course they are .. is Conny hanging up the phone ? Probabaly I agree anybody is on the table with a good offer ..but Anderson is definitely not someone Conroy is dangling to teams right now Only reason Hanifin is out there is it's obvious he turned down the offer or he'd be off the table too I think you can even pinpoint the last game of the roadtrip as when he gave his decision..hanifin was a beast on that roadtrip.. suddenly the entire team is mailing it in since theyve been home .. They can say all the right things but it's obvious the team is playing with the knowledge that he , tanev and likey markstrom are playing their last games waiting for the hammer to fall ... Even Tanev is mailing it in Nonis has been at the last 3 Bruins games ..I think that's where hanifin is going .. I can sense a sign and trade coming there .. they're poor in picks so that would elevate it to top prospects and roster players I would rather not deal with Boston. They're just so thin in picks/prospects. I would need Poitras to be part of the return, if I was Conroy. Especially because the Bruins would be able to sign Hanifin. Mason Lohrei would be alright too. That said, if not Poitras, I think other teams would outbid BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 24 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: I would rather not deal with Boston. They're just so thin in picks/prospects. I would need Poitras to be part of the return, if I was Conroy. Especially because the Bruins would be able to sign Hanifin. Mason Lohrei would be alright too. That said, if not Poitras, I think other teams would outbid BOS. it’s an interesting one. I think the reason Boston is in there is it’s a place Hanifin would sign with so brings in the sign and trade. I agree it’s not a place the flames probably want to deal with but can you extract more? I think if you can get Poitras I’d be fine with less picks/return because that’s a pretty key piece. But if Boston won’t put him in the deal I would rather see more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 15 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said: Not surprised there are teams asking about Andersson. I don’t think the Flames can do that at this point. Andersson and Weegar are the only D with term. They need them right now. It might make sense to explore at the next TDL, but not right now IMO. Besides I’m not sure this is the draft where you’d want to have as many as four 1st round picks. My strategy with Andersson is can you use him to extract good young pieces. I don’t think you shop Andersson for picks, you try and leverage a team to give up good young players. Buffalo has a lot of centers can you get one? Would Necas be in play? don’t trade him for a futures deal trade him to get a piece or two that can be part of your core in 2-3 years time. Doesn’t have to be at the deadline but I think the flames 100% should be listening intently on him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 8 minutes ago, cross16 said: My strategy with Andersson is can you use him to extract good young pieces. I don’t think you shop Andersson for picks, you try and leverage a team to give up good young players. Buffalo has a lot of centers can you get one? Would Necas be in play? don’t trade him for a futures deal trade him to get a piece or two that can be part of your core in 2-3 years time. Doesn’t have to be at the deadline but I think the flames 100% should be listening intently on him Yes agreed. BUF needs RHS RD badly. Same with OTT. Would love to get back a under-21 C who still has untapped potential and can make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 20 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Yes agreed. BUF needs RHS RD badly. Same with OTT. Would love to get back a under-21 C who still has untapped potential and can make it. I was all for Ridley Greig until I realized he doesn't follow the code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 39 minutes ago, cross16 said: Buffalo has a lot of centers can you get one? Would Necas be in play? 29 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Yes agreed. BUF needs RHS RD badly. Same with OTT. Would love to get back a under-21 C who still has untapped potential and can make it. I dont watch BUF, but Mittelstadt’s “stadts” look pretty good. Does anyone have a take on this centerman? How does he compare to Mercer from NJ? Or Poitras in BOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Mittlestadt is said to be available, but I am just not 100% sure he is a fit here. He is a pass first player so that means he most likely doesn’t fit with Huberdeau. So unless he is playing LW with Kadri I am not sure where he would fit in our lineup. Buffalo most likely isn’t moving Cozens or Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 If Hanifin is going to Boston, which I have a hard time seeing, hopefully it happens sooner than later. We would most likely have to take Grzelcyk back to make the cap work. I am pretty sure you could flip Grzelcyk for a 3rd at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Seen this rumoured trade: to Pho Anderson (maybe more didn’t notice) to Cgy 2024 first rounder 26 year old Crouse L/Rw 22 year old Soderstrom (sp) D thoughts? If It’s just Anderson I’d say that’s a steal of a deal! if it’s more how Much more would be too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 3 minutes ago, MP5029 said: Seen this rumoured trade: to Pho Anderson (maybe more didn’t notice) to Cgy 2024 first rounder 26 year old Crouse L/Rw 22 year old Soderstrom (sp) D thoughts? If It’s just Anderson I’d say that’s a steal of a deal! if it’s more how Much more would be too much? Even it’s just Andersson that’s a hard no for me. Crouse is a good player, but he is a 3rd liner. Soderstrom hasn’t been able to catch on with the Coyotes and will probably be available on waivers soon. A 1st is nice, but it will be a middle round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 38 minutes ago, MP5029 said: Seen this rumoured trade: to Pho Anderson (maybe more didn’t notice) to Cgy 2024 first rounder 26 year old Crouse L/Rw 22 year old Soderstrom (sp) D thoughts? If It’s just Anderson I’d say that’s a steal of a deal! if it’s more how Much more would be too much? Horrible for Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 6 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said: I would rather not deal with Boston. They're just so thin in picks/prospects. I would need Poitras to be part of the return, if I was Conroy. Especially because the Bruins would be able to sign Hanifin. Mason Lohrei would be alright too. That said, if not Poitras, I think other teams would outbid BOS. Actually did some checking .. including Poitras, they have some appealing prospects . The Russian is intriguing..seems like a load of skill..plays center ... Not to mention would give kuzmenko someone to talk to lol Id stay away from the college kids for obvious reasons..but I could see some potential for deals here . Also with Nonis at the actual Bruins games tells me they're talking about a roster player of some kind https://thehockeywriters.com/boston-bruins-top-10-prospects-2023-24/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, MP5029 said: Seen this rumoured trade: to Pho Anderson (maybe more didn’t notice) to Cgy 2024 first rounder 26 year old Crouse L/Rw 22 year old Soderstrom (sp) D thoughts? If It’s just Anderson I’d say that’s a steal of a deal! if it’s more how Much more would be too much? Depends if ARZ is a top 4 pick and gives the Flames a chance at Dickinson or Levshunov. Both are #1 D potential whereas Andersson tops out as a 2/3. It's a risk and the Flames pick can always bust. Andersson is a sure thing. But if the Flames are going scorched Earth then I would trade Andersson for a chance at a "better Andersson in 5 years". If ARZ pick is 5/6/7/8, then it's still worth considering if the Flames have their guy in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: Actually did some checking .. including Poitras, they have some appealing prospects . The Russian is intriguing..seems like a load of skill..plays center ... Not to mention would give kuzmenko someone to talk to lol Id stay away from the college kids for obvious reasons..but I could see some potential for deals here . Also with Nonis at the actual Bruins games tells me they're talking about a roster player of some kind https://thehockeywriters.com/boston-bruins-top-10-prospects-2023-24/ My issue with Lysell or Merkulov would be that they are wingers. I get that they need the best players they can possibly acquire, but between Huberdeau/Coronato/Pelletier/Zary/Coleman/Pospisil. They have a ton of wingers that have term or club control. Sam Honzek is a winger too. That’s not even including the possibility of Sharangovich, Kuzmenko or Mang signing an extension. I would really like a C or D prospect. The pipeline is thin in those areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: My issue with Lysell or Merkulov would be that they are wingers. I get that they need the best players they can possibly acquire, but between Huberdeau/Coronato/Pelletier/Zary/Coleman/Pospisil. They have a ton of wingers that have term or club control. Sam Honzek is a winger too. That’s not even including the possibility of Sharangovich, Kuzmenko or Mang signing an extension. I would really like a C or D prospect. The pipeline is thin in those areas. Merkulov is a center https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=229105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: Merkulov is a center https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=229105 Maybe. Listed as LW on the AHL scoring leaders. Capfriendly too. Maybe there’s some versatility. Flames should hold out for Poitras though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: Maybe. Listed as LW on the AHL scoring leaders. Capfriendly too. Maybe there’s some versatility. Flames should hold out for Poitras though. Fron what I've read around he's a natural center who can play the wing.. even on the Providence team roster he's listed as Center... When he was was called up for a few games he played 3rd line center Totally... But actually I want em both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 I think Tanev will be going to Van. One way it would work Van Tanev @ 50% $2.25 M Cgy Suter $1.6 M Juulsen $.775 M = $2.375 + 2025 4 th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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