travel_dude Posted February 19 Author Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, redfire11 said: I think Tanev will be going to Van. One way it would work Van Tanev @ 50% $2.25 M Cgy Suter $1.6 M Juulsen $.775 M = $2.375 + 2025 4 th Maybe a fair trade, moreso for VAN. What are we getting for retaining salry? A 4th next year? Only Suter interests me. And not that much because we are gifting Tanev re-signing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, redfire11 said: I think Tanev will be going to Van. One way it would work Van Tanev @ 50% $2.25 M Cgy Suter $1.6 M Juulsen $.775 M = $2.375 + 2025 4 th Mmmm. Suter is a 27 year old smallish 3rd line C/LW that has averaged about .4 points per game in the NHL. Juulsen is a 26 year old mid sized 3rd pairing/replacement level RD that has put up around .1 points per game in the NHL. A 2025 4th round draft pick has less than a 22% chance of playing 99 games in the NHL. There is very little upside in this trade proposal for Calgary. Vancouver would and should be ecstatic with this trade if it were to happen. I feel that if the Flames are retaining 50% of Tanev's contract, he is worth at least the Canuck's 2025 1st round draft pick and a B prospect like Cole McWard, a 22 year old mid sized RD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 8 hours ago, 420since1974 said: I feel that if the Flames are retaining 50% of Tanev's contract, he is worth at least the Canuck's 2025 1st round draft pick and a B prospect like Cole McWard, a 22 year old mid sized RD. I sure hope we get a decent haul for all our players. I don't have your optimism but would love to have that change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 Scouting Boston again. Not exactly sure who in their lineup we would be targeting. Frederic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 17 minutes ago, JTech780 said: Scouting Boston again. Not exactly sure who in their lineup we would be targeting. Frederic? Could be scouting Dallas for a Hannifin trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, 420since1974 said: Mmmm. Suter is a 27 year old smallish 3rd line C/LW that has averaged about .4 points per game in the NHL. Juulsen is a 26 year old mid sized 3rd pairing/replacement level RD that has put up around .1 points per game in the NHL. A 2025 4th round draft pick has less than a 22% chance of playing 99 games in the NHL. There is very little upside in this trade proposal for Calgary. Vancouver would and should be ecstatic with this trade if it were to happen. I feel that if the Flames are retaining 50% of Tanev's contract, he is worth at least the Canuck's 2025 1st round draft pick and a B prospect like Cole McWard, a 22 year old mid sized RD. Rumour is Conroy is asking for a 2nd round pick + prospect for Tanev. Not sure if retaining would change the 2nd to a 1st. Lots of teams will want RHS RD going into the playoffs. Shouldn't be hard to trade Tanev but all teams want a healthy Tanev so will wait until the last day of TDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 19 minutes ago, redfire11 said: Could be scouting Dallas for a Hannifin trade? 2nd game in a row that Calgary has been watching Boston and I am pretty sure it is Nonis at both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 I would much rather trade with Dallas, but it will be difficult cap wise. Not sure who they would be willing to move off of their current roster to make room for Hanifin or Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 There has been some rumblings that Hanifin would prefer to go to Tampa and that’s where he would like to sign long term, and that he is trying to steer talks that way. Tampa can fit him in without having to retain because of Sergachev’s injury. They don’t have a 1st this year or next. No 2nd this year either. Their prospects are fairly uninteresting. Issac Howard, Ethan Gauthier and Dylan Duke at forward are all sort of in that B level. Jack Thompson might be the most intriguing prospect they have, 21 year old RHD, has 32 points in 45 games playing for Syracuse in the AHL. If there is a trade with Tampa the talks begin with Thompson and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 18 minutes ago, JTech780 said: There has been some rumblings that Hanifin would prefer to go to Tampa and that’s where he would like to sign long term, and that he is trying to steer talks that way. Tampa can fit him in without having to retain because of Sergachev’s injury. They don’t have a 1st this year or next. No 2nd this year either. Their prospects are fairly uninteresting. Issac Howard, Ethan Gauthier and Dylan Duke at forward are all sort of in that B level. Jack Thompson might be the most intriguing prospect they have, 21 year old RHD, has 32 points in 45 games playing for Syracuse in the AHL. If there is a trade with Tampa the talks begin with Thompson and go from there. Or Hanifin can go sign in Tampa this summer by his own choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, JTech780 said: There has been some rumblings that Hanifin would prefer to go to Tampa and that’s where he would like to sign long term, and that he is trying to steer talks that way. Tampa can fit him in without having to retain because of Sergachev’s injury. They don’t have a 1st this year or next. No 2nd this year either. Their prospects are fairly uninteresting. Issac Howard, Ethan Gauthier and Dylan Duke at forward are all sort of in that B level. Jack Thompson might be the most intriguing prospect they have, 21 year old RHD, has 32 points in 45 games playing for Syracuse in the AHL. If there is a trade with Tampa the talks begin with Thompson and go from there. The most intriguing thing Tampa has is the 2026 1st. It lines up pretty nicely with the window closing. If Stamkos is still there, he’s 36 Kucherov will be 33 Hedman at age 35 Vasilevskiy 31 Point will be 29. Thats gonna be an old team with very little in the pipeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 Vancouver with the touch down and field goal scored on them by Minny they really need a defensive defenceman. Maybe some high prospects and picks could come our way for Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 Anton Lundel would be a nice return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, JTech780 said: Anton Lundel would be a nice return. Yes and be greedy and ask for their 2026 first…why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, MP5029 said: Yes and be greedy and ask for their 2026 first…why not? Well I am pretty sure Hanifin and Tkachuk are good buddies, so I definitely could see Hanifin wanting to sign long term in Florida. So maybe we work out another sign and trade with Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 It takes some patience, but I like the idea of acquiring a 2026 1st from either Florida based club. A lot can change in two seasons. Look at the Flames in 2022 vs 2024. With TB that's an aging team by 2026. With Florida, they're not old but they're already a bottom half farm system with big raises due at the NHL level. Might be thin at the bottom half of that roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 12 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: It takes some patience, but I like the idea of acquiring a 2026 1st from either Florida based club. A lot can change in two seasons. Look at the Flames in 2022 vs 2024. With TB that's an aging team by 2026. With Florida, they're not old but they're already a bottom half farm system with big raises due at the NHL level. Might be thin at the bottom half of that roster. Exactly. MTL made an excellent investment on the Flames demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Exactly. MTL made an excellent investment on the Flames demise. Possibly but it depends on the demise of 2 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, JTech780 said: Anton Lundel would be a nice return. That would be my first choice. I wouldn't bother asking for a pick. If they needed to send a salary our way to make it work, there are some options: Spencer Knight or Mikkola Knight is costing them 3.5M buried cap penalty. Stolarz has beaten him out. He would already be in the AHL so he and Wolf could bring each other up. Good tandem for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Well besides TB there are still rumours about Hanifin wanting to be in Bos or close to it as well. some are also suggesting the Nash goalkeeper nabbing Mercer…if that’s the case maybe a blockbuster with NJD? to NJD Hanifin Tanev Markstrom to Cgy 2025 1st (conditional on Hanifin reup) mercer Holtz Vanecek maybe this could work? Heck may even be worth retaining on Markstrom…25%, but if they’d be wanting 50% that would cost 2024 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 53 minutes ago, MP5029 said: Well besides TB there are still rumours about Hanifin wanting to be in Bos or close to it as well. some are also suggesting the Nash goalkeeper nabbing Mercer…if that’s the case maybe a blockbuster with NJD? to NJD Hanifin Tanev Markstrom to Cgy 2025 1st (conditional on Hanifin reup) mercer Holtz Vanecek maybe this could work? Heck may even be worth retaining on Markstrom…25%, but if they’d be wanting 50% that would cost 2024 1st Not bad ..has some merit for sure ... I feel it's lacking something but ..overall good idea .. Only issue ( and I admit I didnt know this either until the other day ) resigning a player can no longer be a condition in a trade ...so maybe a sign and trade would make that higher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, MP5029 said: Well besides TB there are still rumours about Hanifin wanting to be in Bos or close to it as well. some are also suggesting the Nash goalkeeper nabbing Mercer…if that’s the case maybe a blockbuster with NJD? to NJD Hanifin Tanev Markstrom to Cgy 2025 1st (conditional on Hanifin reup) mercer Holtz Vanecek maybe this could work? Heck may even be worth retaining on Markstrom…25%, but if they’d be wanting 50% that would cost 2024 1st They got rid of conditional picks for re-signing. We could do a sign and trade, if he would do it. I'm not sure I like that big trade. We give up possibly 2 players that might get us a 1st each. Plus a world class goalie. We get a (currently) 3rd line RW, a (currently) 4th line LW and a 28 goalie in his 4th season. Career year was last year and not trending that way again. If you separated it out: Hanifin for Mercer Markstrom for Holtz + Vanacek Tanev for a late 1st Each one is underwhelming, except maybe Mercer. Just me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 36 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: Not bad ..has some merit for sure ... I feel it's lacking something but ..overall good idea .. Only issue ( and I admit I didnt know this either until the other day ) resigning a player can no longer be a condition in a trade ...so maybe a sign and trade would make that higher Whoops, didn't see that last sentence, but we are in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 So, Vanacek on IR now. That is fine if they want to include in trade. It allows us to use Wolf until Vanacek is ready. If Vanacek came back prior to TDL, then we move Vladar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 25 minutes ago, travel_dude said: So, Vanacek on IR now. That is fine if they want to include in trade. It allows us to use Wolf until Vanacek is ready. If Vanacek came back prior to TDL, then we move Vladar. Well how convenient... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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