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So a lot of rumours out there as of late but this one kinda makes some sense. to Buf Kadri + Vrc 2024 first to Cgy Buf 2024 first as things stand, that would give Cgy two top 10 picks…which, is probably a good gain for Cgy its also good for Buf, they kinda need a guy like Kadri, given how he’s helped our young players this makes sense for Buf. on the other hand, the chemistry Kadri has with our young players is a intangible asset that is hard to come by and probably needed moving forward. in short I’m a little unsure if it’s a good move if it’s actually got some depth to this rumour…all and all I think I’d pull the pin and make that trade, if for no other reason than to have a shot at Tij and a D

Hopefully we land TJ…but that said there are teams That may draft him higher than 8th he’s on the exact same trajectory as his dad, and the entire NHL knows how good his dad was. its not a lock that Tij will be as good as his dad, but pedigree dose seem to work out in the NHL, often times the next gen is even better… personally I think Cgy’s smart play here is to Go hard after Tij…even if they win the lottery trade the top pick acquire another pick in 2025, move down a few notches and grab Tij…my asking price if I were Cgy and won the lottery is top 5 pick in 2024 and a 2025 first

Is it just me? Since TDL Markstrom’s play has been subpar to put it in a nice way. is he doing this on purpose to avoid being a tradable asset? Currently his play I can’t see a team moving on him he’s not much of an upgrade for teams like LAK, NJD etc… or is he going into his down cycle again? I find it odd that he was Ves. level play before the TDL and after he got upset with the trade rumours he’s been playing at maybe a backup level goalie… either way, he’s not looking like a goalie a team Would seek

I’d be OK with moving a draft pick to either Pit for Yagar or Col for Ritchie both solid Ctrs, and both Pit and Col are in need of picks as their pools are thin. Pit may be looking for NHL players and I could see Manji being a fit for them. Not sure they let a draft pick go, rather they would probably want a pick they are kinda looking at adding now while they have Crosby and adding picks….I wonder if: To Cgy Yagar To pits Manji+ Vrc 2024 first this to me seems like a good move for both teams. I’m not sure if Pits would do that but…that’s a move I think works for Cgy

All very true…and this draft in 2024 out side the top 10 is as unpredictable as any draft has been. One could even argue it’s unpredictable out side of the top 5. this is to say, picks in this years draft are probably the most likely to move by comparison to last year and even in 2025. In 2023 and in 2025 deeper and more talented players over all. with that being said, I could Conroy making a move with the VCR pick…maybe trading for a young player? Again, totally depends on what other teams are thinking….heck for that matter our pick in the top 10 could be in play for a young player ready to break out. There are teams in need of futures, but I’m not Sure those teams have any budding young prospects in the tier Cgy is looking for…Maybe LA? Bos, Col, LVK are all in need of young fresh blood and picks but also lack anything worthy of a 1st round pick…VCR may have something else to add but that’s doubtful I think after the Lindholm deal they are gonna shy away from Cgy for a bit, also I think they are in the same boat as the Bos’s, Col’s, LVK’s they are more in the adding a NHL impact player or particular need category with a young core ready to make Some noise. on the same token…the opposite could be true with players on our team being wanted by another team…which could result in a few picks being added in this years draft…there are a number of teams on the cusp of being serious threats so adding picks is not ideal for their window of opportunity, NJD, NYI, Buf, Ott and Det are kinda those teams with solid young core just needing a little add be it D or G in most of Those cases. Ott is a bit of an odd one, they are missing G for sure but most importantly they seem to be missing that intangible heart and soul warrior guy. hard to call, but Conroy has shown a preference towards young NHL or near NHL ready prospects, over draft picks. with that in mind I wouldn’t be surprised to see him move picks for NHL or near NHL ready prospects, or players being blocked on their current team depth, I’m just not sure what teams are in need of picks with young prospects or young NHL players being blocked by depth.

They are wrong Tij is playing Ctr or at least he’s been listed as a Ctr

Not enough for me…if we won the lottery I’d draw that down and nab another pick in 2025 (first of course) and draft Tij…at the rate Tij is going I’d bet on him being more of a franchise changer than anyone else…gotta give him the benefit of his dad’s genes

Agreed and unfortunately I can see the win streak too…but it would be smart to shut down injuries and as fans hope for close tight losses. Get as high a pick as possible at this point IMO

Well now hold the phone here a second…this may be a sensible move if some team wants Celebrini bad enough if (huge if) Cgy won 1st overall…it’s probably gonna be a top 5 team, I’d make that move in exchange for a 2025 first and their 2024 first…odds are it’s gonna be a top 10 pick in 2025 and that’s the cost id ask for Celebrini…then take Tij…i don’t think it’s safe to draft lower on Tij…then maybe even trade up with the VCR pick and maybe Marksman for maybe top 15-10 ish? Nab a D in this draft. reason I say this is 2025 draft is deeper in high end talent…I’m not convinced Celebrini is a top 5 in the 2025 draft. grab Tij maybe a top end D this draft and next draft another top 10 in a really deep draft on the top end… IDK if other teams would be willing to pay a 2025 unprotected first for Celebrini but if they are willing I’d say that’s a smart move…

Yes that is fun but as a flames fan we all Know Cgy is never this lucky.

Well as things are we are looking like a top 10 draft pick… one thing seems like the teams is disjointed much like the first 1/2 of the season. This is not a bad thing really, they just need to build chemistry and get the new guys accustomed to the team style and players. Kinda expected this having a 1/2 your regular D traded mid season it’s gonna take time to get the chemistry right. Add to the fact mostly new young D that haven’t had much playing time in the NHL they need to also adjust to the NHL speed and intensity. there seem to be some good mix of player and some that we definitely need to move. All and all it’s a perfect situation, work out the bugs let the younger guys get some experience and get a good draft pick.

The only thing I can think of is NHL playing time whenever it make Sense to slot him in. i think the Manji, Kuz fit will be closely look at this off season and into next TDL personally I’d like to see both moved so Pelletier and Coranato can get a full season of NHL adjustment time in. as for Kuz..I can’t help but feel he’d be a great fit in Mlt…something about him just seems to fit Mlt… as for Manji…he’d be a solid 2nd or 3rd liner nearly anywhere… he may benefit from a change of scenery. as for returns of these two that’s is very questionable…I think as long as it’s not a total loss it’s a positive move regardless of the return cause the cap space is gonna be huge if for no other reason then the grab a few picks on taking on bad contracts and or 3rd party broker over the next couple of years…

Ok so, question… if everyone was in agreement players and teams, would you do a straight up trade: Gaudrau to Cgy for Hubie to CBJ? no retention just player for player, provided everyone was in agreement. thoughts? my thought is meh.. on one had Cgy saves 1-2 mil per season and I think Gaudreau is younger… on the other hand Hubie is Canadian, and he’s a bigger body forward… change of scenery for each player may get them going again.

Personally, I think the young guys are looking good, really good over all. The additions at D are still adjusting as is some of the reg roster guys…too much turnover in a short period to adjust. I don’t they are tanking on purpose it’s just a natural part of the process. I will admit Valadr has been horrible as of late, maybe lack of playing time, or the weakened play in front as of late is exposing his weaknesses IDK…either way it need to get figured out, if it’s a weakness in his game his trade value will be horrible, and keeping him to help wolf is not an option. This is gonna be a tough call, having Markstrom in front of wolf is really not an option cause the kid need a lot more puck time at the NHL level but with Markstrom he won’t get enough… and currently im not sure Vladar is going to cut it for up to 50% of the games. The other thing I wonder about, is pending UFA’s in 2025 and 2026…after this year, and the turbulence of having so many in question to start the year and with most eventually having been traded I wonder if Conroy could get out ahead of that this summer and extend or trade 2024 UFA this summer and also gauge the 2026 UFA and maybe trade any that are not fully on board as of this summer…could create some stability through the season and less drama they could focus on just playing and not worry about trades and rumours. It amy make for a young team that needs to learn but it’s gonna happen any way so may as well get out ahead of this and start building the line and D chemistry early.

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