tmac70 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 10 minutes ago, JTech780 said: I think Demidov is the best offensive talent in the draft and the most skilled player in the draft. Celebrini is the best all around talent in the draft and there is no chance that Calgary is getting him, but if you have a chance to get the guy you think is the 2nd best player in the draft you try and go for it. New franchise player that we may not be able to get otherwise. I wonder if 9th + Anderson and Prospect could do it. CBJ need Dman bad. Would also indicate that the Flames would most definitely be in the UFA market hard on Dman as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, cross16 said: Sounds like you will need to get past MTL to get Demidov so I would agree you need to get to 4. Moving from 9-4 would be expensive and I don't get why Columbus would want to move down that far. Would be great but feels difficult to pull off. If they feel Andersson or Weegar and our 9th is enough. Does Calgary think that is fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 The asking price for the 4th overall is going to be stupid. If Demidov doesn't get scooped by CHI, then many many teams above 4th will b calling. We have to have that offer already in CBJ's ear. They may counter at the last minute but it has to be big enough (from us) to be considered. I don't know how good Connie is at playing live poker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, travel_dude said: The asking price for the 4th overall is going to be stupid. If Demidov doesn't get scooped by CHI, then many many teams above 4th will b calling. We have to have that offer already in CBJ's ear. They may counter at the last minute but it has to be big enough (from us) to be considered. I don't know how good Connie is at playing live poker. I have reason to believe he is going to do fine. I guess I am beginning to trust him and prefer he sticks to his perception of the worth of the pick, what it's worth for the Flames to buy it. If the price is too high that the team spends too much on youth, then I trust him to stick to his price he's willing to pay. So far, I feel comfortable with all of his trades. Some might say he got less for some, but I think he got the minimum requirement for most, and more than expected on some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 6 minutes ago, robrob74 said: I have reason to believe he is going to do fine. I guess I am beginning to trust him and prefer he sticks to his perception of the worth of the pick, what it's worth for the Flames to buy it. If the price is too high that the team spends too much on youth, then I trust him to stick to his price he's willing to pay. So far, I feel comfortable with all of his trades. Some might say he got less for some, but I think he got the minimum requirement for most, and more than expected on some. I’d agree with, if nothing else you can sum up Conroy was not having been fleeced in a trade…his worse move so far may be average…everything else above average. he may not have hit a home run but honestly I’d rather the average to above average moves every time over crap deals with a home run deal….BT’s last year really was horrible especially with that knee jerk signing of Hubie, that alone offset any good that came from the Lindholm and Hanifin home run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 24 minutes ago, robrob74 said: I have reason to believe he is going to do fine. I guess I am beginning to trust him and prefer he sticks to his perception of the worth of the pick, what it's worth for the Flames to buy it. If the price is too high that the team spends too much on youth, then I trust him to stick to his price he's willing to pay. So far, I feel comfortable with all of his trades. Some might say he got less for some, but I think he got the minimum requirement for most, and more than expected on some. 11 minutes ago, MP5029 said: I’d agree with, if nothing else you can sum up Conroy was not having been fleeced in a trade…his worse move so far may be average…everything else above average. he may not have hit a home run but honestly I’d rather the average to above average moves every time over crap deals with a home run deal….BT’s last year really was horrible especially with that knee jerk signing of Hubie, that alone offset any good that came from the Lindholm and Hanifin home run. It's not his negotiating skill that concerns me. He's done fine. The speed on the draft floor has to be there. You have to be ready to up your offer, stick, or walk away. We have struck out in the past for many reasons. BT was always on the phone and he always managed to move picks for picks. But this is high stakes. Potential game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Getting close ! I admit to being very torn on Tij Almost hope he's gone at 9, cuz if he is there and there are 4 outcomes , 2 of which are bad . 1. We take him, and he's everything we expected . Great 2. We take him.. he flames out and we live with the nepotism attacks for years cuz somebody after him will be a star.. always happens ...bad 3. We pass on him, he becomes a star.. and regardless of how good our pick does ..we live with the PR nightmare . Very bad 4. We pass on him and he flames out .. so long as our kid doesn't too.. sigh of relief .. If he is there we almost have to take him..because 3 is way worse thsn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Montreal spent #26 (Winnipegs slot), #57 and #198 to move up to #21 LA. Nashville tried this one last year will see if a team will budge this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted June 28 Author Report Share Posted June 28 Sup. I promised a list. Doin a list. Very interesting draft, wish I had more time than I did to put this together. Also would have been a lot of fun to do the later rounds. 1 Macklin Celebrini (C) Boston Univ. NCAA 38 32 32 64 18 2 Ivan Demidov (RW/C) SKA-1946 St. Petersburg MHL 30 23 37 60 20 3 Zayne Parekh (D) Saginaw Spirit OHL 66 33 63 96 64 4 Cayden Lindstrom (C) Medicine Hat Tigers WHL 32 27 19 46 66 5 Tij Iginla (LW) Kelowna Rockets WHL 64 47 37 84 35 6 Berkly Catton (F) Spokane Chiefs WHL 68 54 62 116 41 7 Carter Yakemchuk (D) Calgary Hitmen WHL 66 30 41 71 120 8 Artyom Levshunov (D) Michigan State Univ. NCAA 38 9 26 35 44 9 Anton Silayev (D) Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod KHL 63 3 8 11 10 10 Sam Dickinson (D) London Knights OHL 68 18 52 70 30 11 Zeev Buium (D) Univ. of Denver NCAA 42 11 39 50 20 12 Konsta Helenius (C/RW) Jukurit Liiga 51 14 22 36 10 13 Beckett Sennecke (RW) Oshawa Generals OHL 63 27 41 68 67 14 Liam Greentree (RW) Windsor Spitfires OHL 64 36 54 90 33 15 Cole Eiserman (LW) U.S. National U18 Team NTDP 57 58 31 89 34 16 Michael Hage (C) Chicago Steel USHL 54 33 42 75 53 17 Trevor Connelly (LW) Tri-City Storm USHL 52 31 47 78 88 18 Michael Brandsegg-Nygård (F) Mora IK 41 8 10 18 19 19 Yegor Surin (C/RW) Loko Yaroslavl MHL 42 22 30 52 108 20 Daniil Anatsky (C) SKA-Yunior Krasnogorsk MHL 41 18 25 43 42 21 Nikita Artamonov (RW) 22 Igor Chernyshov (LW) Dynamo Moskva KHL 34 3 1 4 2 23 Sacha Boisvert (C) Muskegon Lumberjacks USHL 61 36 32 68 86 24 Cole Beaudoin (C) Barrie Colts OHL 67 28 34 62 27 25 Terik Parascak (RW) Prince George Cougars WHL 68 43 62 105 41 26 Emil Hemming (RW) TPS Liiga 40 7 4 11 0 27 Marek Vanacker (LW) Brantford Bulldogs OHL 68 36 46 82 55 28 Robin Nico Antenen (LW) Zug U20 U20-Elit 44 20 20 40 16 29 Andrew Basha (LW) Medicine Hat Tigers WHL 63 30 55 85 48 30 Dominik Badinka (D) Malmö Redhawks SHL 33 1 3 4 6 31 Teddy Stiga (LW) NTDP 61 36 43 79 42 47 32 Ryder Ritchie (RW) Prince Albert Raiders WHL 47 19 25 44 24 Take Note of: pavel-moysevich Russian goalies in general Russian players in general 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 ^^^ Did you add your name and picks to the top 11 and #28 pool that is pinned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 What's up with 28? Taking the piss, as rd might say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberg Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 23 minutes ago, jjgallow said: Sup. I promised a list. Doin a list. Very interesting draft, wish I had more time than I did to put this together. Also would have been a lot of fun to do the later rounds. 1 Macklin Celebrini (C) Boston Univ. NCAA 38 32 32 64 18 2 Ivan Demidov (RW/C) SKA-1946 St. Petersburg MHL 30 23 37 60 20 3 Zayne Parekh (D) Saginaw Spirit OHL 66 33 63 96 64 4 Cayden Lindstrom (C) Medicine Hat Tigers WHL 32 27 19 46 66 5 Tij Iginla (LW) Kelowna Rockets WHL 64 47 37 84 35 6 Berkly Catton (F) Spokane Chiefs WHL 68 54 62 116 41 7 Carter Yakemchuk (D) Calgary Hitmen WHL 66 30 41 71 120 8 Artyom Levshunov (D) Michigan State Univ. NCAA 38 9 26 35 44 9 Anton Silayev (D) Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod KHL 63 3 8 11 10 10 Sam Dickinson (D) London Knights OHL 68 18 52 70 30 11 Zeev Buium (D) Univ. of Denver NCAA 42 11 39 50 20 12 Konsta Helenius (C/RW) Jukurit Liiga 51 14 22 36 10 13 Beckett Sennecke (RW) Oshawa Generals OHL 63 27 41 68 67 14 Liam Greentree (RW) Windsor Spitfires OHL 64 36 54 90 33 15 Cole Eiserman (LW) U.S. National U18 Team NTDP 57 58 31 89 34 16 Michael Hage (C) Chicago Steel USHL 54 33 42 75 53 17 Trevor Connelly (LW) Tri-City Storm USHL 52 31 47 78 88 18 Michael Brandsegg-Nygård (F) Mora IK 41 8 10 18 19 19 Yegor Surin (C/RW) Loko Yaroslavl MHL 42 22 30 52 108 20 Daniil Anatsky (C) SKA-Yunior Krasnogorsk MHL 41 18 25 43 42 21 Nikita Artamonov (RW) 22 Igor Chernyshov (LW) Dynamo Moskva KHL 34 3 1 4 2 23 Sacha Boisvert (C) Muskegon Lumberjacks USHL 61 36 32 68 86 24 Cole Beaudoin (C) Barrie Colts OHL 67 28 34 62 27 25 Terik Parascak (RW) Prince George Cougars WHL 68 43 62 105 41 26 Emil Hemming (RW) TPS Liiga 40 7 4 11 0 27 Marek Vanacker (LW) Brantford Bulldogs OHL 68 36 46 82 55 28 Robin Nico Antenen (LW) Zug U20 U20-Elit 44 20 20 40 16 29 Andrew Basha (LW) Medicine Hat Tigers WHL 63 30 55 85 48 30 Dominik Badinka (D) Malmö Redhawks SHL 33 1 3 4 6 31 Teddy Stiga (LW) NTDP 61 36 43 79 42 47 32 Ryder Ritchie (RW) Prince Albert Raiders WHL 47 19 25 44 24 Take Note of: pavel-moysevich Russian goalies in general Russian players in general I like how you think. Who is Robin Nico Antenen, never heard of him? I might be tempted to pick Letourneau on a go for broke swing at 28. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberg Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Countdown-2 hrs… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted June 28 Author Report Share Posted June 28 11 minutes ago, travel_dude said: ^^^ Did you add your name and picks to the top 11 and #28 pool that is pinned? didn't see it sorry. very limited time last few weeks. it looks like a "guess which order the GMs will pick in" pool, which is quite a bit different than the list i put up. guessing what mistakes the GMs will make is a whole other derivative lol. And much harder to predict who's going to pull a Jankowski. but I'll try and have a look if I'm free right before draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, cberg said: Countdown-2 hrs… All of this for 2 prospects tonight. lol Tomorrow will be enjoyable too. I'm almost more interested in tomorrow's 8 picks. If it stays at 8 picks. Whoever we take, regardless of my current fandom, I'll be a fan. I've rarely had good Parekh viewings, but if it's him, he's god's gift to dmen. lol 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 6 minutes ago, jjgallow said: didn't see it sorry. very limited time last few weeks. it looks like a "guess which order the GMs will pick in" pool, which is quite a bit different than the list i put up. guessing what mistakes the GMs will make is a whole other derivative lol. And much harder to predict who's going to pull a Jankowski. but I'll try and have a look if I'm free right before draft. I think you should have swapped Levshunov and Yakemchuk. Good list outside of 28th. lol I have Iginla, Eiserman, Greentree and Sennecke in a similar box that you have in that area of the draft. Tiggy gets the daddy bump from most though, imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 6 minutes ago, jjgallow said: didn't see it sorry. very limited time last few weeks. it looks like a "guess which order the GMs will pick in" pool, which is quite a bit different than the list i put up. guessing what mistakes the GMs will make is a whole other derivative lol. And much harder to predict who's going to pull a Jankowski. but I'll try and have a look if I'm free right before draft. Nah, it's just for fun and how we think it will shake out. Isn't that more important than what we believe is the right order? I don't intend to ever say I told you so after a draft. It's too long a runway to actually proclaim who the best pick was. BTW, I think Demidov is the 2nd best in the draft and will go 2nd OA. 4 out of 12 in the pool think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Just now, conundrumed said: I think you should have swapped Levshunov and Yakemchuk. Good list outside of 28th. lol I have Iginla, Eiserman, Greentree and Sennecke in a similar box that you have in that area of the draft. Tiggy gets the daddy bump from most though, imho. Wonder if the next kid is better and will get even more hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, travel_dude said: Wonder if the next kid is better and will get even more hype. I guarantee you If Tij has a good rookie start and his brother trends like him he’s gonna be top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Not sure about the accuracy but was just reading that “thing have escalated” with Kadri, and team is actively shipping him…this could be very media drive so grain of salt…I’m fine with him mentoring the kids if that’s what he wants. if he wants out I think with what he did for our young players, he’s earned that even though he’s only been here a short time last season I think he’s earned the right… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, MP5029 said: Not sure about the accuracy but was just reading that “thing have escalated” with Kadri, and team is actively shipping him…this could be very media drive so grain of salt…I’m fine with him mentoring the kids if that’s what he wants. if he wants out I think with what he did for our young players, he’s earned that even though he’s only been here a short time last season I think he’s earned the right… I think it's fair to listen to Kadri after we have gone scorched earth (close to it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 7 minutes ago, MP5029 said: Not sure about the accuracy but was just reading that “thing have escalated” with Kadri, and team is actively shipping him…this could be very media drive so grain of salt…I’m fine with him mentoring the kids if that’s what he wants. if he wants out I think with what he did for our young players, he’s earned that even though he’s only been here a short time last season I think he’s earned the right… Kyper just a few minutes ago out out that " reliably confirmed" .. flames are not shopping Kadri..Kadri and his camp have made no requests nor have they been approached about any possible trade ..nor do they intend to request one .. Sounds more like people looking for clicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 46 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: Kyper just a few minutes ago out out that " reliably confirmed" .. flames are not shopping Kadri..Kadri and his camp have made no requests nor have they been approached about any possible trade ..nor do they intend to request one .. Sounds more like people looking for clicks Dave Pagnotta uses the term “insider” loosely. Rarely gets anything correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 This guy is all over the place again... Haven't looked back to see what " very accurate" means ... First 8 are Celebrini Levshunov Silayev Lindstrom Buium Dickinson Sennecke Yakemchuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 This is gonna be a lot of fun. It's been a long journey. @jjgallow started this thread in early November. It's going to be quite the wild ride to pick 9. It could go so many ways. There are like 8 prospects I could see ending up with the Flames at 9th. After all that excitement, we get to see the Flames pick again tonight. Should be a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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