conundrumed Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, travel_dude said: Hopefully that is not close to true and that they really are just waiting to see what direction the cap is going. Fixed your last sentence.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, conundrumed said: Fixed your last sentence.lol Maybe. It seems like some analysts just dump on the team. Wonder what the Insidrrr says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, JTech780 said: Well I just listened to Servalli on 960, and he mentioned that Calgary would prefer players who can play now in return, as opposed to picks and prospects. Of course we would be targeting win-now. Who were we fooling? I didn't get my hopes up even for one millimeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarasti Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Man where are those pipe-dream Eklund "rumors" when you need them 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Cap is only going up $1m and then taking bigger jumps the following years. So if you are Hanifin and Lindholm you may as well wait till the cap takes the bump and cash in then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Of course we would be targeting win-now. Who were we fooling? I didn't get my hopes up even for one millimeter. I got about 3 microns of elevation. Seravelli now reporting Backlund is not wanting to re-sign. Which is actually perfect for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 The dysfunction is running rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted June 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 It's time to take your medicine, if you're the Flames. Load up on top 60 picks in the next two drafts. Get out in front of it and it doesn't have to be a decade of pain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 If the reporting is accurate and Hanifin, Lindholm, Backlund and Toffoli all don’t plan on re-signing with the Flames, combined with the fact that Treliving turned a contract extension and he chose to walk away from the Flames, that makes me wonder about if there is something bigger at play with the Flames. Or it could be that players talk and if 1 or two of those guys have decided to not return than that makes the decision easier to not return for the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, JTech780 said: If the reporting is accurate and Hanifin, Lindholm, Backlund and Toffoli all don’t plan on re-signing with the Flames, combined with the fact that Treliving turned a contract extension and he chose to walk away from the Flames, that makes me wonder about if there is something bigger at play with the Flames. Or it could be that players talk and if 1 or two of those guys have decided to not return then that makes the decision easier to not return for the others. All could be at play here. But I can see why not many want to play in Calgary if most of the main pieces leave. Too much transition and getting to know new players. It's gotta be hard. No consistency sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 minute ago, JTech780 said: If the reporting is accurate and Hanifin, Lindholm, Backlund and Toffoli all don’t plan on re-signing with the Flames, combined with the fact that Treliving turned a contract extension and he chose to walk away from the Flames, that makes me wonder about if there is something bigger at play with the Flames. Or it could be that players talk and if 1 or two of those guys have decided to not return than that makes the decision easier to not return for the others. Probably for some, mainly Hanifin who was close with Tkachuk, seeing him go on that run put in doubt on if he could do that here, possibly with Lindholm too, and the other 2 are over 30 and they hear about those guys and see the writing on the wall. Definitely a cause for concern with so many players not wanting to be here, in some cases turning down better money to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarasti Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 The Toffoli thing is actually great news. Could cash in big after the year he had. Unlikely to repeat it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted June 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Backlund and Toffoli not wanting to extend doesn't concern me all that much. Heading into his age 35 season, it's fair to say the Flames have got the best hockey out of Backlund. A 2yr extension isn't all that interesting to me. Same with Toffoli. I'm not all that interested in a 3 or 4yr deal for a player that will be 32 in April. Especially one that isn't a strong skater by any stretch. Hanifin and Lindholn hurt for sure, but they aren't necessarily "franchise players". I don't think the Flames hoist a Cup with either guy on a massive extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Well Kevin Rooney's path back to the NHL is getting easier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, sak22 said: Well Kevin Rooney's path back to the NHL is getting easier. Might even be a spot for Matthew Phillips... on like, the top line! Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Yikes, and if Lindholm doesn’t run and sign that deal right away, things must be really bad within the organization. Huberdeau, Kadri and Lindholm are all very good players, don’t get me wrong, but is that really the core of a Stanley Cup contender? I would say no. It might be the core of bubble playoff team, but not a contender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Heartbreaker said: Might even be a spot for Matthew Phillips... on like, the top line! Love. Nah, he'll split because leaving is the current trend, he is Gen Z afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: It's time to take your medicine, if you're the Flames. Load up on top 60 picks in the next two drafts. Get out in front of it and it doesn't have to be a decade of pain. Why do you sound like you have your hopes high? You know we will trade for vets with term. No picks coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 I am not happy to hear all these Flames players want to leave because I understand the Flames are not mandated to rebuild. We know what's best under these circumstances is to sell everyone for picks and prospects but that's not what they are going to do. We will trade for vets with term instead. It's going to be a nightmare after the dust settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacity7 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, The_People1 said: I am not happy to hear all these Flames players want to leave because I understand the Flames are not mandated to rebuild. We know what's best under these circumstances is to sell everyone for picks and prospects but that's not what they are going to do. We will trade for vets with term instead. It's going to be a nightmare after the dust settles. What if those players with term WANT to be here? Much of the success of teams is built on trust and WANTING to play with each other and for each other. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, The_People1 said: I am not happy to hear all these Flames players want to leave because I understand the Flames are not mandated to rebuild. We know what's best under these circumstances is to sell everyone for picks and prospects but that's not what they are going to do. We will trade for vets with term instead. It's going to be a nightmare after the dust settles. I don't know who's trading guys with term for guys with 1 year remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, sak22 said: I don't know who's trading guys with term for guys with 1 year remaining. It will be a lesser skilled vet with term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagacity7 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, sak22 said: I don't know who's trading guys with term for guys with 1 year remaining. Lots of older players with big contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Sounds to me like Lindholm holds the keys to the car. Older players want to win..so players like Toffoli , Tanev and Backlund don't have the luxury of one or 2 years to be a contender again.. so I'm not all that surprised they're taking a lead and waiting on Lindholm.. If Lindholm stays long term, then that will and Should have a ripple effect .. Hanifin I believe was always going to be plan b in terms of trade bait to fill that top line .. If it should happen ..both Lindholm and Hanifin should get you a haul of picks , players and prospects ..Lindholm more so But in sorry. We are not capable of a tank rebuild even if we had the go ahead ... Unless he asks to be moved markstrom isn't going anywhere ..he has a full nmc.. under no circumstances should we be sweetening any pots to take him , Kadri and or Huberdeau . . Or you're giving up the very picks you are trying to cash in on . But I also fully agree with Conroy at this point .. if you don't wanna be here , then go .. we don't want you . Just for fun tho... Since they started it all due to not liking playing for Sutter . Send both Lindholm and backs to Columbus to play for Babcock 🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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