travel_dude Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, lou44291 said: PS> thanks snowbear for breaking the news! At the very least, we will have the deadpan interviews and the perfect look of "meh" that he made famous. Interested to see what direction he goes with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Really positive spin by Button on TSN. Maybe a little boas there, but he spoke about the positive things that Sutter can do, which match the things lacking. Big job ahead, but he's a respected coach. Lucic will have no problem with him. Bennett may just have earned a new lease on life. Hard to say, but I do think some things weren't sitting well with the GM or owners. Interesting dynamic going into the Oilers game. At least we know what the attitude coming out of the dressing room will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 I am pumped.....actually excited to watch a Flames game again! Called for Dutter after Gully and after Peters. Finally! Makes absolute sense in my mind, the guy just wins. If he can’t turn this team around, this team ain’t turning around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 1) a rejuvenated Geo 2) You will see Tkachuk start to excel in his game without the frustration. 3) You will see Lucic with a more leadership roll possibly an A 4) 4 consistent lines rolling 5) No effort No play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, travel_dude said: I was watching TV after the game ended and just picked up twitter to see what people thought. Would be lying if I said I was 100% shocked GW was fired, but it still was unexpected coming after literally no hint of it. Is it an improvement? Can't say, it's been so long since he was last here. What I do think is he would be a good coach if we ever make the playoffs. Pretty sure no one is shocked Ward got fired. Everyone is shocked Darryl Sutter is coming back though. The guys 62. Rode off into the sunset after two Cup rings. I didn't think he would have the desire to coach again because there's really nothing more to prove. Given his age, I thought he would rather go do ranch stuff, retire, and be with family. That's why this seems like a desperate move on the owners part. Pretty sure ownership has a good relationship with the Sutter family and maybe asked Darryl for help personally. BT likely wanted to fire Ward and wanted someone new but the owners probably said No... If it's a new coach then we get to pick him. And the owners picked Sutter. My guess anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 I honestly don't think Sutter is going to make a difference to this season. We saw in LA, if he has the talent, then he can win. In my opinion, we don't have the pieces in place. We don't have RWs. We could use a true #1 Center. What can Sutter do outside of deploying a really tight defensive system to take advantage of Markstrom's goaltending and try to win games 1-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Pretty sure no one is shocked Ward got fired. Everyone is shocked Darryl Sutter is coming back though. The guys 62. Rode off into the sunset after two Cup rings. I didn't think he would have the desire to coach again because there's really nothing more to prove. Given his age, I thought he would rather go do ranch stuff, retire, and be with family. That's why this seems like a desperate move on the owners part. Pretty sure ownership has a good relationship with the Sutter family and maybe asked Darryl for help personally. BT likely wanted to fire Ward and wanted someone new but the owners probably said No... If it's a new coach then we get to pick him. And the owners picked Sutter. My guess anyways. It's also a clear message to BT. Sutter will be in 100% control of the bench and will have a strong opinion on trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, The_People1 said: What can Sutter do outside of deploying a really tight defensive system to take advantage of Markstrom's goaltending and try to win games 1-0? I think Sutter will get us back to the heavy forecheck similar to a NYI game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Outside of Lucic and Bennett who would obviously benefit from Sutter's system is probably Brett Ritchie. Sutter loves his role players who can go do the simple hit and grind so I think Ritchie will get full time minutes now. Froese and Gawdin could also benefit at the expense of Leivo and Ryan. There's enough muck there for Sutter to build that sandpaper in the bottom 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, redfire11 said: 1) a rejuvenated Geo 2) You will see Tkachuk start to excel in his game without the frustration. 3) You will see Lucic with a more leadership roll possibly an A 4) 4 consistent lines rolling 5) No effort No play Somewhere tonight you have a Benny that can’t sleep, like he’s waiting to open his Christmas present. Benny turns the corner here and finds a consistent role....or he becomes a 4th line fill in for some team down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, redfire11 said: It's also a clear message to BT. Sutter will be in 100% control of the bench and will have a strong opinion on trades. Sutter's contract ends the same time BT's ends... And then Sutter's new contract will be the GM of the Flames. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, travel_dude said: At the very least, we will have the deadpan interviews and the perfect look of "meh" that he made famous. Interested to see what direction he goes with this team. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Sutter is a master motivator.. He will define each players role with their ability and within the system. There will be no more floaters or inconsistant efforts. At the end of this season managemrnt will know pretty much what this team and players are capable of. there will no longer be a blender of lines looking for chemistry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, DirtyDeeds said: Sutter is a master motivator.. He will define each players role with their ability and within the system. There will be no more floaters or inconsistant efforts. At the end of this season managemrnt will know pretty much what this team and players are capable of. there will no longer be a blender of lines looking for chemistry. Exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Wow now that’s a great move! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Again Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Surprised they pulled the Wardo plug in this shortened season after just giving him the reins. But.... it had to happen. This must be the owners. I was a fan of DS as a coach but not as a GM. As I look at the team and how they play I have to think this is a pretty solid move. DS will get them engaged and make them more of a team but I wonder if he understands the importance of fitness. I am starting to wonder if this team is as dedicated as they need to be on that component of the game. Their back to back effort and third period work raises questions. Nice to see a solid and decisive move - thumbs up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketdoctor Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 a suprise move. 3 year contract also suprising to me. I could understand help us out to the end of the season scenario and then go for a coach like Travis Green. Time will tell. How long a honeymoon period does Dutter the sequal get? But welcome back DS and good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted March 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 With Darryl you know what your Getting and he will make these guy work and work there but off and they will be held accountable no questions asked 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cupthug89 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Woooo !! Great news to wake up to , frig ya ! Been calling for dutter for a while now !!! Yes !!! Lets go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cupthug89 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Bennett could really thrive and blossom under sutter , cant wait to watch this movie !!! Happy friday ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 When Sutter took over as coach in LA, he had an agreement with Lombardi that he would not be fired. When the time came that the Kings needed a change, they would “agree to part ways”. I would imagine that’s the case here too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikey7883 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 me waking up this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5029 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, 89Again said: Surprised they pulled the Wardo plug in this shortened season after just giving him the reins. But.... it had to happen. This must be the owners. I was a fan of DS as a coach but not as a GM. As I look at the team and how they play I have to think this is a pretty solid move. DS will get them engaged and make them more of a team but I wonder if he understands the importance of fitness. I am starting to wonder if this team is as dedicated as they need to be on that component of the game. Their back to back effort and third period work raises questions. Nice to see a solid and decisive move - thumbs up. I fully agree DS as a coach awesome! As a GM not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikey7883 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 I found this article from 2014, pretty good read on what Sutter brings as most of you already know. I have copied and pasted a couple sentences from the end of the article and it sounds eerily familiar to where we are today. https://www.lamag.com/longform/ice-age-coach-darryl-sutter/ “But the players still didn’t have their coach, exactly. Three months into the 2011-12 season—when the Kings, supposedly a team on the verge, were sitting outside of a play-off spot, mired in a four-game losing streak—Lombardi fired Terry Murray and called Sutter.................... What the Kings needed was to be pushed in the way that Sutter knows how to push. Basically Sutter’s system came down to, Go fast or get off the ice.“ 🍻 to the new flames, some of these you g guys better buckle in, lol. Now I’m excited for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Aside from I believe Ward got the shaft from the players , I love this. I've firmly believed if Sutter had stayed coach for 1-2 more seasons he'd have had a cup here . Him only knowing crash and bang is a misnomer . The team he had in 2004 was not a very talented team..they played to the best of their ability.. that's what Sutter does. Every player in this team will be told what they are and what they will do..or else . I don't expect Bennett to suddenly get his wish to be a center .. he will be put where he will do the best..Sutter will decide that . We will never again ask " what is Sam Bennett?" Question is , whether Sam will like the answer Skill players thrive under him.. I think of Dustin Brown.. his career was essentially over until Sutter showed up. But we will know what D is..and if you are a physical player , you will play physical. Id argue this is the most talented team he's been given.. now we find out what they can and can't do 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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