Flyerfan52 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 It's true! He'll never make it! It's no slight, though... Jagr didn't make it, or Brett Hull, or Ryan Kesler. Love. But the "Golden Brett" @ least tried out for TC. He was POed when he didn't make the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccsberg Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 That's no different than Crosby, for a comparison. On a one up, JG isn't making Canada's team, perhaps ever. Of course not, he's American. Without the NA team there's a good chance he's on this year's USA team.And as far as the Crosby reference, NO it's not the same. Crosby is a proven winner, best player in the world, big time producer. McDavid is a big hype machine to date, none of those things. He has scored a lot in a limited first season. He could be great, or he could be Yakupov 2.0. Nothing is proven, and all the hype, Captaincy, etc is hugely presumptive that frankly hasn't even remotely fulfilled to date. Show me, then I'll believe you... As for the lines, Putting Mcdavid with Mackinnon is a joke. McKinnon is one of the biggest puck hogs on the team. As the game proved, it was a dud. What is Mclelland thinking, now where does he go, everything is a mess. Mcdavid has done next to nothing, Gaudreau has looked good in multiple combos, McKinnon and Drouin pretty good, Schieffle good, Ekblad good, goalies good.... Big decisions to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Of course not, he's American. Without the NA team there's a good chance he's on this year's USA team. I fully understood that in my initial post. I know he's American, for the love of all that is holy. What I mean, if he's Canadian, he wouldn't make our national team anytime soon. If ever. I'm thinking not ever. Interesting a Czech team with a potential for jet lag beats NA. Team NA vs more structured, better coached teams is looking like an uh-oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I fully understood that in my initial post. I know he's American, for the love of all that is holy. What I mean, if he's Canadian, he wouldn't make our national team anytime soon. If ever. I'm thinking not ever. Interesting a Czech team with a potential for jet lag beats NA. Team NA vs more structured, better coached teams is looking like an uh-oh. Did you notice some of the poor play by the forwards without the puck? Guy not being covered at all sneaks in close for an easy tap in. I understand the logic of his NHL coach wanting to try him out in all scenarios, but McDavid is not very good shothanded. He doesn't have to be. There are players from structured teams that know how to PK. Even Nuge would be better choice. It's a throw-away game, but they should have been more concerned with building chemistry on what worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Did you notice some of the poor play by the forwards without the puck? Guy not being covered at all sneaks in close for an easy tap in. I understand the logic of his NHL coach wanting to try him out in all scenarios, but McDavid is not very good shothanded. He doesn't have to be. There are players from structured teams that know how to PK. Even Nuge would be better choice. It's a throw-away game, but they should have been more concerned with building chemistry on what worked. Gaudreau-McDavid are a defensive disaster 5-on-5. I'll say it again, Saad, Larkin, RNH, Scheifele, "should have added Galchenyuk" need to be the leaders. It's McMellon's roster. I think he took "showcase" literally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Should also give props to Hemsky, I thought his ship had sailed. He looked good and dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Gaudreau-McDavid are a defensive disaster 5-on-5. I'll say it again, Saad, Larkin, RNH, Scheifele, "should have added Galchenyuk" need to be the leaders. It's McMellon's roster. I think he took "showcase" literally... That's funny, Johnny didn't play with McDavid except for a few shifts in the 3rd. One was during a scoring play. He wasn't on the ice for McDavid's gaffe. Won't dispute who you think the leaders should be. JT Miller should not be on this team. Bennett would have been a far better choice. I found it funny that Johnny ended up with Nuge and Eichel. Not much chemistry with Eichel. Too bad Monahan wasn't able to play. I ill give props to the goalie. Still can't figure out how Johnny missed that tap in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Wow, so Canada only beat Russian in OT and Europe beat Sweden pretty handily looking at the score. I don't know of they dominated but they put the puck in the net plenty. So, maybe the pool with North America, Russia, Sweden, and Finland might be more contestable than first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccsberg Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I fully understood that in my initial post. I know he's American, for the love of all that is holy. What I mean, if he's Canadian, he wouldn't make our national team anytime soon. If ever. I'm thinking not ever.Interesting a Czech team with a potential for jet lag beats NA. Team NA vs more structured, better coached teams is looking like an uh-oh. So you're telling me Patrick Kane wouldn't make Team Canada now, if ever? Doubtful, and thinking of Gaudreau in the future, if not even now you've got to be thinking Kane. Gaudreau-McDavid are a defensive disaster 5-on-5. I'll say it again, Saad, Larkin, RNH, Scheifele, "should have added Galchenyuk" need to be the leaders. It's McMellon's roster. I think he took "showcase" literally... Yup, Mcdavid as Captain and trying everything to make him go is a huge mistake. But, Oilers GM and coach, are we surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So you're telling me Patrick Kane wouldn't make Team Canada now, if ever? Doubtful, and thinking of Gaudreau in the future, if not even now you've got to be thinking Kane. Yup, Mcdavid as Captain and trying everything to make him go is a huge mistake. But, Oilers GM and coach, are we surprised? It's funny how different coaches approach players. Torts reduced the minutes of Patches for not being 100% involved. McLellan talks about his star needing to be more selfish and stop asking permission to do stuff. Funny comments about a leader. I'm content to sit back, watch some NHL style hockey in September and evaluate the play I see on the ice. You want to be a leader? Show something - hit someone, stop a goal, carry a shift on your back like Iggy did in "The Shift". I get that he is young, but if that is the excuse, then don't force the captain spot on him. He might not be ready this year, not here not in the new arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So you're telling me Patrick Kane wouldn't make Team Canada now, if ever? Doubtful, and thinking of Gaudreau in the future, if not even now you've got to be thinking Kane. Yup, Mcdavid as Captain and trying everything to make him go is a huge mistake. But, Oilers GM and coach, are we surprised? Easy on the Kane. I'm saying Gaudreau, not Kane. Altogether different things. Where does that comparison come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Watching some of Team Europe and have to believe Ralph Kruger is going to get another coaching job if he wants it. He prepares, game plans and structures his teams too well to not get another shot. Impressed by Team Europe today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is this the same Team Europe that got their (.)s handed to them bt the Kiddie Korps (twice)? Then they beat Sweden & now have the USA back on their heels. Slow starters or lurking in the weeds until games matter? Torts amazes me yet again. 1st he uses Buff @ forward after 2 years excelling as a defence & now makes him a healthy scratch. Fonzie is an enigma & is costing the USA chances in a short unforgiving tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Watching some of Team Europe and have to believe Ralph Kruger is going to get another coaching job if he wants it. He prepares, game plans and structures his teams too well to not get another shot. Impressed by Team Europe today. As good a job as Team Europe did to win the game (all due credit to them), I still have to wonder where the USA team was. Did they think they (minus Quick) were playing tonight instead of this afternoon, because I'm not sure they showed up? Is this the same Team Europe that got their (.)s handed to them bt the Kiddie Korps (twice)? Then they beat Sweden & now have the USA back on their heels. Slow starters or lurking in the weeds until games matter? Does make one wonder if Team NA is better then they're getting credit for with the two wins over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Krueger did say the Team NA game was a good sample to learn from. It means he is able to adjust quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Regarding team NA, I think it's kinda nice for Canadians and Americans to cheer for the same team. That might just be me though. I root for Team USA over Team Canada, but I consider myself at least affiliated with Canada after living with y'all for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Made it! Go Johnny go! Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Made it! Go Johnny go! Love. He rang one off the post so far in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 He rang one off the post so far in the 1st. Yup! This place went nuts! Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulstad Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Yup! This place went nuts! Love. You were at the game, Heartbreaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Impressive domination of the Finns. Johnny had at least 4 scoring chances. MacKinnon's line looks dangerous almost every shift. Partyanko and Ghost both look like winners. Ekblad less dominant on offense, but great defense. Extended ice time hasn't really helped the top line get going offensively. They did manage to get a PPG, which is necessary in this series. Big test against the Ruskies tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 As good a job as Team Europe did to win the game (all due credit to them), I still have to wonder where the USA team was. Did they think they (minus Quick) were playing tonight instead of this afternoon, because I'm not sure they showed up? I think Team Europe deserves a lot of credit for that. They really slowed down the play in the neutral zone and I dont' think US was very preapred for that, and its a Torts coached team so you know they want to go North-south. I don't disagree Team USA didn't play their best hockey but I think alot of the credit should go to how Europe played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooyas Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Impressive domination of the Finns. Johnny had at least 4 scoring chances. MacKinnon's line looks dangerous almost every shift. Partyanko and Ghost both look like winners. Ekblad less dominant on offense, but great defense. Extended ice time hasn't really helped the top line get going offensively. They did manage to get a PPG, which is necessary in this series. Big test against the Ruskies tonight. Top line didn't have extended play time. McDavid and Schiefele played just under 15 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Top line didn't have extended play time. McDavid and Schiefele played just under 15 mins Since you have a breakdown on the ice times, what did the other players on other lines have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooyas Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Matthews 14:20 Scheduler 14:48 McDavid 14:44 Gaudreau 14:07 Couturier 15:16 Eichel 14:31 Saad 12:12 Trocheck 14:26 MCkinnon 14:39 Larkin 14:18 Drouin 15:26 Nugent-Hopkins 16:04 The coach is doing a great job of keeping it pretty even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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