Carty Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Wish the return had been a little better, but maybe Treliving can use the 2nd as part of a trade package to get someone as an upgrade for one of the holes in the roster... Hudler was a good character guy, and I'm sure he will be missed in the locker room, but the Flames have to start getting some size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Good trade. The Flames need to add some size to the top 6. We can't afford to do that and retail Hudler on a big contract. Remember the two trades last deadline gave us what we needed to acquire this off season. Wish the return had been a little better, but maybe Treliving can use the 2nd as part of a trade package to get someone as an upgrade for one of the holes in the roster... Hudler was a good character guy, and I'm sure he will be missed in the locker room, but the Flames have to start getting some size... Agreed. Hudler was skilled, but in a perfect world our #1RW should have size, speed and truculence as well. The question is, who will that player be or who will grow into that position in relatively short order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Agreed. Hudler was skilled, but in a perfect world our #1RW should have size, speed and truculence as well. The question is, who will that player be or who will grow into that position in relatively short order? kind of ironic when you think of it.. we went years looking for a Center for Iggy.. now we are loaded with centers and looking for a RW to play with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zima Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 You never Know BB and BT might have a secret deal with Huds and he will be back next yr with a long term deal worth 4.5 and 5 yrs without a no trade clause. You never know and the term and amount is pour conjecture. here's hoping, I think he is a great mentor for those kids to men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_henning Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 kind of ironic when you think of it.. we went years looking for a Center for Iggy.. now we are loaded with centers and looking for a RW to play with them The irony of this is probably not lost on any of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zima Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Ok listening to Nault and Klien on Flames 960 I guess I'm dreaming the brains think he is history here on a flames line. To me it is disappointing, I thought he had great chemistry with Mono and JH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Wish the return had been a little better, but maybe Treliving can use the 2nd as part of a trade package to get someone as an upgrade for one of the holes in the roster... Hudler was a good character guy, and I'm sure he will be missed in the locker room, but the Flames have to start getting some size... Are you saying we have a holes in the lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Are you saying we have a holes in the lineup? Well... I don't like Bollig very much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Pretty mixed feelings here. Happy with the strategy. Dissapointed with the return (but not surprised). Raises the question of why we didn't trade him last year. Which we really should have. But that's a whole other debate. Hmmm.... At the end of the day.... If we end up with Austin Matthews out of all this....it could still turn out to be a good trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Good trade. Decent return on a rental that the Flames would not have been able to re-sign. I hope that Trevling can also turn Russell & Jones into draft picks by the TDL. Russell is looking for $4M + any speculation that Jones will take a huge pay decrease is just that.....speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp393 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Im shocked people are disappointed with the return. Last year was a career year with highs hes never reached before and likely never will again. Huds is a 50 point 2nd liner not a first liner. He wasnt good in the playoffs last year and doesnt bring the size or grit you like to add for a playoff run. I think simply one 2nd would be a good deal but an extra pick on top makes this a great one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Whatever our thoughts, just wanted to say that Hudler will be missed. Not only did he bring fantastic performance to this team, but his mentorship, leadership, and character will be sorely missed. Thank you for everything Hudler, and best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Whatever our thoughts, just wanted to say that Hudler will be missed. Not only did he bring fantastic performance to this team, but his mentorship, leadership, and character will be sorely missed. Thank you for everything Hudler, and best of luck! Seconded. (About time we agree on something!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickross Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'll miss Hudler, he lacked size but you can't argue with his skill, especially when that 1st line was clicking. I was a bit disappointed with the return, I expected the 2nd Rd pick but seeing J Schultz trade net the Oilers a 3rd it stings a little when comparing what Hudler brings and Schultz doesn't. We'll see what the market returns if we end up trading Russell next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Whatever our thoughts, just wanted to say that Hudler will be missed. Not only did he bring fantastic performance to this team, but his mentorship, leadership, and character will be sorely missed. Thank you for everything Hudler, and best of luck! Well said jj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 There is no conceivable way we get as good a player or teammate as Hudler with a 2nd or a 4th. Sure, there is a chance we find a Gaudreau or Brodie, but that is so far down the road, and you don't get that experience or leadership in that range. I'm not against the trade or the return, but BT was concerned that the return might go down the closer we got to TDL. He blinked first. but that is the way it goes. Good luck to Jiri, a great pro, a funny guy and 1/3 of the best line in hockey in March 2015. Hudreauahan will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tincup1 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Whatever our thoughts, just wanted to say that Hudler will be missed. Not only did he bring fantastic performance to this team, but his mentorship, leadership, and character will be sorely missed. Thank you for everything Hudler, and best of luck! In addition to being a highly skilled player who brought out the best of Monahan and JH, I enjoyed his qwerkiness. Have to give credit to Jay Feaster for a good FA signing which isn't easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_jones Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't hate this trade. I think it had to be done as it was. Any later, and his value would probable decrease to a 3rd or even the Flames management getting frustrated and losing him to free agency for nothing. Pretty tough to get a 1st these days. But I'd be more pissed off if I was an Oilers fan. Essentially on paper, they traded a former 6th overall pick in 2007, for an 80th overall pick in 2016, At least Huds was a free agent signing. But all the best to him nonetheless. Will always remember his Lady Byng speach while wearing no shoes. Hudlarious!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't hate this trade. I think it had to be done as it was. Any later, and his value would probable decrease to a 3rd or even the Flames management getting frustrated and losing him to free agency for nothing. Pretty tough to get a 1st these days. But I'd be more pissed off if I was an Oilers fan. Essentially on paper, they traded a former 6th overall pick in 2007, for an 80th overall pick in 2016, At least Huds was a free agent signing. But all the best to him nonetheless. Will always remember his Lady Byng speach while wearing no shoes. Hudlarious!!!! I think the Oiler's made out like bandits today. Wasn't Purcell one of those guys advanced stats people loved a few years back? The Oilers killed that logic in <2 years then flipped him for a low 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think the Oiler's made out like bandits today. Wasn't Purcell one of those guys advanced stats people loved a few years back? The Oilers killed that logic in <2 years then flipped him for a low 3rd rounder. They made out like bandits by flipping Jultz for a 3rd. That alone makes them (Penguin) bandits. ...That's what I would say except they don't have a good record of non-first round picks. So the loot may turn out to be paper money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 A classic Hudler moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickross Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 He's in Florida now, he'll be wearing sandals more often than not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Heard that he already got a jet ski... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Im shocked people are disappointed with the return. Last year was a career year with highs hes never reached before and likely never will again. Huds is a 50 point 2nd liner not a first liner. He wasnt good in the playoffs last year and doesnt bring the size or grit you like to add for a playoff run. I think simply one 2nd would be a good deal but an extra pick on top makes this a great one. +1 I think those who are disappointed about the return feel we traded a 76-point Top 10 NHL scorer but unfortunately, the version of Hudler we traded is not that version. Had we stuck to the rebuild and traded him at the TDL last year, we're probably talking a 1st round pick + prospect + roster player. Or maybe even more since he had one more year remaining on his contract and it was a relatively cheap contract too. Oh well. I'm happy with a 2nd rounder. To get a 4th too is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 +1 I think those who are disappointed about the return feel we traded a 76-point Top 10 NHL scorer but unfortunately, the version of Hudler we traded is not that version. Had we stuck to the rebuild and traded him at the TDL last year, we're probably talking a 1st round pick + prospect + roster player. Or maybe even more since he had one more year remaining on his contract and it was a relatively cheap contract too. Oh well. I'm happy with a 2nd rounder. To get a 4th too is a bonus. Pretty much the same return. Is this underwhelming return for Huds or overwhelming return for Stemps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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