Heartbreaker Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 ... for a second and a fourth. https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/703671979459616768 Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC923 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Would have thought we could do better. GlenX went for a 2nd and a 3rd last year, and Huds is better imo. Plus given the haul Ladd brought, I would have pegged the value closer to two seconds or a 2nd and a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Solid return. Hudler isn't the type of player teams are looking for for a playoff run. Teams are looking for size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Would have thought we could do better. GlenX went for a 2nd and a 3rd last year, and Huds is better imo. Plus given the haul Ladd brought, I would have pegged the value closer to two seconds or a 2nd and a prospect. I was going to say the same about the Glencross deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Also, per McKenzie, "Those draft picks CGY got from FLA for Hudler are a 2016 2nd rounder and 2018 4th rounder." https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/703673364548886528 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Just to add the 2nd is in 2016 and the 4th is 2018. Would have thought we could do better. GlenX went for a 2nd and a 3rd last year, and Huds is better imo. Plus given the haul Ladd brought, I would have pegged the value closer to two seconds or a 2nd and a prospect. Hudler is a better playmaker, but Glencross had size and played a physical game, teams will pay a premium for those type players as it those type of players that make the difference in the playoffs. My guess is with all the forwards on the market this year, that there just wasn't a huge demand for Hudler, so you take your best offer and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Solid return given the other prices out there. Hudler isn't as in demand come deadline as guys like Ladd and Glencross are. I was thinking a 2nd straight up was going to be it so nice job to get the other pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBurn Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 A low second and fourth is not what I expected for a return on Hudler. I guess we get something for a player that we were not going to sign but how do we fill the hole on our first line. Much to contemplate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 We now have 2 2nds in this draft. We will lose the 4th we got for Nashville, because the condition on it was that Reinhart had to play a certain amount of games in the NHL. He won't play enough or any so we don't get any return on that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Just to add the 2nd is in 2016 and the 4th is 2018. Hudler is a better playmaker, but Glencross had size and played a physical game, teams will pay a premium for those type players as it those type of players that make the difference in the playoffs. My guess is with all the forwards on the market this year, that there just wasn't a huge demand for Hudler, so you take your best offer and move on. Saw that. That's a strange pick to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think the problem with Hudler too is he was really bad last year in the playoffs. I get he may have been hurt but the reality is the league is typically a what have you done lately. I don't think teams were every going to give you a first or a prospect for Hudler there is just too much risk. Also keep in mind up until the last month he has not been playing well I get why they didn't do it but I really wish the flames would have moved him last offseason. I don't think he would have gone for a massive return but I think they could have got a roster player and a return that trumps what they just did. It's a real tough call though so I don't blame anyone and obviously I could be wrong and the return wouldn't have been much better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think the problem with Hudler too is he was really bad last year in the playoffs. I get he may have been hurt but the reality is the league is typically a what have you done lately. I don't think teams were every going to give you a first or a prospect for Hudler there is just too much risk. Also keep in mind up until the last month he has not been playing well Keep gathering these picks and see what BT can turn them into later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkRaving Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 This is a reasonable return. IMO, most playoff-bound teams are pretty set in their top 6 and are more likely to be looking for depth forwards. (For instance, all of the other Flames forwards who are currently available -> Jones, Colborne, Jooris) It wouldn't surprise me if someone picks up Jones. He's a good 3rd/4th line winger who is defensively sound while having some offensive upside. (Truth be told, Jones has always frustrated me. When he has a bur under his saddle, he can be a pretty good power-forward. He forechecks very aggressively and throws his body around. Most of the time though, he plays a very vanilla game) I hope some of the RWers in Stockton prick up their ears at this trade. (I'm talking to you, Mr. Poirier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think the problem with Hudler too is he was really bad last year in the playoffs. I get he may have been hurt but the reality is the league is typically a what have you done lately. I don't think teams were every going to give you a first or a prospect for Hudler there is just too much risk. Also keep in mind up until the last month he has not been playing well I get why they didn't do it but I really wish the flames would have moved him last offseason. I don't think he would have gone for a massive return but I think they could have got a roster player and a return that trumps what they just did. It's a real tough call though so I don't blame anyone and obviously I could be wrong and the return wouldn't have been much better than this. With the way he finished the season. BT had to believe Hudler would be a help to the team making the playoffs this year. You don't want to take too many steps backward after a successful year. Perhaps BT felt that missing Gio was the reason for the 2nd round loss. Whatever. Going to miss Hudler and his wacky interviews. Hope they call up someone for a tryout now. We are at 21 spots, with Russell included in that number. 6 healthy D-men (one injured due to be traded). 12 healthy forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulstad Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 According to TSN's Trade Tracker, he just got flipped to Edmonton for a 3rd rounder http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/trade-tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 AMAZING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 According to TSN's Trade Tracker, he just got flipped to Edmonton for a 3rd rounder http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/trade-tracker Haha. They messed up. That's Teddy Purcell going to Florida for a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper14 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Not happy with this return. Florida having a good season means that the 2nd round for Florida will turn into what, the 50th overall pick? 50th overall picks are not known to be career, impact players at the NHL level. We needed a prospect in return. Now, who fills that void on the top line and leadership in the room? We don't have anybody who can fill what Jiri brought, I would have rather have just resigned him for 2-2.5 and let him finish off his career. The experts will tell you chemistry is hard to find, and Mony, Johnny, and Huds had chemistry. Hudler will be a big loss with basically nothing of substance coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertaBoy12 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I don't really care if we get anything of substance back, it would have been nice in a perfect world. But lets hope that BT works some magic win the picks, as I'm happier to get something for a player who would have left in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Not happy with this return. Florida having a good season means that the 2nd round for Florida will turn into what, the 50th overall pick? 50th overall picks are not known to be career, impact players at the NHL level. We needed a prospect in return. Now, who fills that void on the top line and leadership in the room? We don't have anybody who can fill what Jiri brought, I would have rather have just resigned him for 2-2.5 and let him finish off his career. The experts will tell you chemistry is hard to find, and Mony, Johnny, and Huds had chemistry. Hudler will be a big loss with basically nothing of substance coming back. Resigning Hudler would have cost $5mill plus, you aren't getting him $2.5mill not even close. He was probably asking for term as well 4+ years and I wouldn't sign him for that long. I am sure Treliving would have taken a prospect of one was offered. Bottom line is we got market value or a little above for what Hudler brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtrooper Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Gonna miss Huds!!! Was hoping we would have gotten a 1st for him but oh well. What # overall is the 2nd we get? Is it a early 2nd or a later one? If it is a later one then I think we could have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zima Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 wow that's what I call a kick in the teeth and it's not April first. We just traded probably our best point getter next to JH for a high second and a 4th in 2 yrs. Then Florida kicks us in the teeth by shipping him to Edmonchuck. I hope he resigns here next yr or we could be getting what we have been doing to Edmonchuck for so many yrs getting our but kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Gonna miss Huds!!! Was hoping we would have gotten a 1st for him but oh well. What # overall is the 2nd we get? Is it a early 2nd or a later one? If it is a later one then I think we could have done better. It will determined by where Florida finishes in the regular season and playoffs. wow that's what I call a kick in the teeth and it's not April first. We just traded probably our best point getter next to JH for a high second and a 4th in 2 yrs. Then Florida kicks us in the teeth by shipping him to Edmonchuck. I hope he resigns here next yr or we could be getting what we have doing to Edmonchuck for so many yrs getting our but kicked. They didn't trade him to Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulstad Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Haha. They messed up. That's Teddy Purcell going to Florida for a 3rd. *phew* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKappa Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Bad deal imo. Hudler is a great playmaker and a mentor. I'd actually be happier if it was a 2016 4th and a 2018 2nd. Now what this also does is bring down Gaudreau and Monahans production, so if we get discounts because of that then maybe this trade is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.