Amander Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Trade alert: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Great trade. Cost nothing and Calgary gets a competent backup for under 2 million. Murphy could turn it around as well, he was a top prospect not long ago. Lack wasn't my first choice for backup. But honestly, it's splitting hairs a bit at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, kehatch said: Great trade. Cost nothing and Calgary gets a competent backup for under 2 million. Murphy could turn it around as well, he was a top prospect not long ago. Lack wasn't my first choice for backup. But honestly, it's splitting hairs a bit at this point. I agree and he is almost like a sideways move, from Chad Johnson, someone who can back up but give you some extra starts if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFlamer Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 sounds like lack at 50% salary, and a defenceman potentially bottom paring for kanzig (with basically a pick swap in late rounds) (not familiar with Ryan Murphy can he be our 5th or is he similar to bart?) either way i would consider that trade a steal I was kind of hoping Rittich would get a shot, but this is a good trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I'm fine with this. You really arnt giving up much so it's worth it. Not a Murphy fan and I don't think he is an nhler but it gives you depth as a RH shot Lack will be cost effective which is nice. The lack in Vancouver I liked a lot so if he can even get back to 80% of that this will be good. If not well then backup will be an issue. He was pretty bad in Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, kehatch said: Great trade. Cost nothing and Calgary gets a competent backup for under 2 million. Murphy could turn it around as well, he was a top prospect not long ago. Lack wasn't my first choice for backup. But honestly, it's splitting hairs a bit at this point. This is the most bizarre trade I have heard of. Lack at 50% Murphy and 7th for Kanzig and a 6th? I'm not a Lack fan, but even if he fails, we can lose most of his salary by waiving him and sending him down. We were never going to use Kanzig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu11 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 minute ago, travel_dude said: This is the most bizarre trade I have heard of. Lack at 50% Murphy and 7th for Kanzig and a 6th? I'm not a Lack fan, but even if he fails, we can lose most of his salary by waiving him and sending him down. We were never going to use Kanzig. It's basically Carolina getting rid of Lack as they don't want to have 3 goalies when the season begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, travel_dude said: This is the most bizarre trade I have heard of. Lack at 50% Murphy and 7th for Kanzig and a 6th? I'm not a Lack fan, but even if he fails, we can lose most of his salary by waiving him and sending him down. We were never going to use Kanzig. Wasn't Carolina terrible last year? At times at least? I still think we can tend to blame goalies for their teams' inadequacies. It's gotta be on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, robrob74 said: Wasn't Carolina terrible last year? At times at least? I still think we can tend to blame goalies for their teams' inadequacies. It's gotta be on both. im trying to remember the guys name, a goalie expert that was on Fan 960 a few weeks back. specifically discussed style of goalie vs team.. made a point of discussing that Lack was entirely wrong for the Carolina system.. GG is very familiar with Lack.. I'll trust he had some input on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Lack sure wasn't a strong blip on my backup search radar... Just hope that we get the right version... The one with a .921 SV% and not the one that had a .886 in the playoffs that same season... The one that got a win from the Flames in OT in his NHL debut game when he was with the Nucks, and then 2 years later got his first playoff win, again against the Flames... The price was right (Kanzig), the dollars work ($1.5 mil), and the term is right (1 year)... It's gettin' to be slim pickin's in the goalie market... So let's give him a chance, and we'll see what he's got... Worst case scenario, Gillies could come take his spot at least until they can figure out another plan... It's possible that he could step up with his play and make Treliving look like a genius... Let's hope for the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 minute ago, phoenix66 said: im trying to remember the guys name, a goalie expert that was on Fan 960 a few weeks back. specifically discussed style of goalie vs team.. made a point of discussing that Lack was entirely wrong for the Carolina system.. GG is very familiar with Lack.. I'll trust he had some input on this I remember that too! i listen to both the Fan and 1040 here in Van and I wasn't sure if it was here in Vancouver or on the Fan. Was it Noodles? Hirsch? Or the goalie that got injured and had to retire, Brent Krahn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 We will be Lacking in net from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 We should get to hear Jim Hughson talk about a bunch of things this year: Eddie Lack's dad 20-something Sam Bennett Ferkland running around like a bull in a china shop Johnny Hockey, winner of the Lady Byng trophy Matt Tkachuk, most reviled player in hockey since his dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 52 minutes ago, travel_dude said: This is the most bizarre trade I have heard of. Lack at 50% Murphy and 7th for Kanzig and a 6th? I'm not a Lack fan, but even if he fails, we can lose most of his salary by waiving him and sending him down. We were never going to use Kanzig. They save a bit of money and clear up a goalie. Clearly there wasn't a big market for Lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, robrob74 said: I remember that too! i listen to both the Fan and 1040 here in Van and I wasn't sure if it was here in Vancouver or on the Fan. Was it Noodles? Hirsch? Or the goalie that got injured and had to retire, Brent Krahn? here it is.. Kevin Woodley - InGoal Magazine http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/ryan-pinder/kevin-woodley-talks-goalies-pinder/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Really like the Smith acquisition, he was #1 on my list a year and a half ago when we were riding out the last 10-15 games with Ramo/Hiller. He meets our needs in so many ways. I think he was BT's guy too all along but the price was too high last summer. Lack was not on my list as backup, no where close, but after looking at the cost, why not? I think we are stronger in net, five more wins in a season goes along ways in the standings come April and I think Smith will bring that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cross16 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 4 hours ago, travel_dude said: This is the most bizarre trade I have heard of. Lack at 50% Murphy and 7th for Kanzig and a 6th? I'm not a Lack fan, but even if he fails, we can lose most of his salary by waiving him and sending him down. We were never going to use Kanzig. Carolina has no use for either and have been rumoured to be shopping both for some time. Here they get rid of 2 assets they don't want, clear salary and roster space and not have to give up an asset to do it. Makes a lot of sense from Carolina's perspective. Murphy wa never going to play on that d core once they got TVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, CheersMan said: Really like the Smith acquisition, he was #1 on my list a year and a half ago when we were riding out the last 10-15 games with Ramo/Hiller. He meets our needs in so many ways. I think he was BT's guy too all along but the price was too high last summer. Lack was not on my list as backup, no where close, but after looking at the cost, why not? I think we are stronger in net, five more wins in a season goes along ways in the standings come April and I think Smith will bring that. I don't love our solution for net for the simple reason that it is a Band-Aid. The expansion draft represented an opportunity to bring on a legitimate number 1 who would helm the position long term. What we got was a decent tandem for one or two seasons. That said, this team absolutely needs stability in net for this season. Most of our core is entering their prime and are getting paid top dollar. We need to take a step forward and that requires goalies we can trust. I think we got that for this season. Let's just hope one of the kids graduates and shows starter prowess in the next two or we will have to play this game again shortly (and probably without the benefit of an expansion draft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 7 hours ago, kehatch said: I don't love our solution for net for the simple reason that it is a Band-Aid. The expansion draft represented an opportunity to bring on a legitimate number 1 who would helm the position long term. What we got was a decent tandem for one or two seasons. That said, this team absolutely needs stability in net for this season. Most of our core is entering their prime and are getting paid top dollar. We need to take a step forward and that requires goalies we can trust. I think we got that for this season. Let's just hope one of the kids graduates and shows starter prowess in the next two or we will have to play this game again shortly (and probably without the benefit of an expansion draft). Let's hear your after expansion draft plan of attack for a Goalie since you are entering these comments after the fact ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 7 hours ago, kehatch said: I don't love our solution for net for the simple reason that it is a Band-Aid. The expansion draft represented an opportunity to bring on a legitimate number 1 who would helm the position long term. What we got was a decent tandem for one or two seasons. In all seriousness, the way it played out , who were we supposed to have that we missed out on? Bishop and MAF were closed doors The price on Raanta was a 1st (7th overall) and bad contract in return The price on Grubauer is still high LV didnt load up on goalies as expected they loaded up on D Elliot was apparently a fallback plan only in Flames eyes Buffalo is keeping Lehner Philly is Keeping Neuvirth We did inquire on and tried to get Darling but he went to Carolina..likely to get him East instead of West Saros and Korpisalo are not being traded anywhere If BT had not jumped on Smith when he did, Lack is probably our starter now ..our best other options would be Mason and Bernier , and we didnt close the door on anybody in our system to come get a job , and more importantly we didn't rush them into action prematurely . Being realistic, Smith will miss some games this year ..that means more experience for Rittich and / or Gillies up on the big club Even for those who view Smith = Elliot , then the moves he did allowed us the ability to put way better defense in front of him so the ripple effect still means a heavy goal upgrade Bottom line the expected buyers market for starters did not happen . We could argue at some point in the last year BT fumbled the Bishop window, but in the end if he signs anywhere but Dallas hes a long term 6M+ / year What did we miss out on ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 another awesome interview with Kevin Woodley on the FAN960 this AM.. should be posted on Sportsnet later today ,, but he goes into great detail why Lack had the issues in Carolina. Gives me a firm belief we will see the Vancouver Lack for us this year . Anybody not liking this deal needs to give it a listen.. Basically summary is Carolina was forcing him to change his style to a style that exposed his weakness as a humor story.. just further proof you can never trust Eklund.. this is from his updated Rumor chart . updated TODAY umm.. for a guy supposedly so in tune, he doesnt know we have 2 now ?? Steve Mason Updated: June 30, 10:26 AM ET 40% 30% 25% 5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 10 hours ago, cross16 said: Carolina has no use for either and have been rumoured to be shopping both for some time. Here they get rid of 2 assets they don't want, clear salary and roster space and not have to give up an asset to do it. Makes a lot of sense from Carolina's perspective. Murphy wa never going to play on that d core once they got TVR We all wanted a D from Carolina because they have so many... But the last guy we wanted was Murphy. I wonder if there was a deal to be made where we add a bit more to land one of their other kids. Especially Bouma or Stajan (clear room for Jankowski). Or eat the full $4-mil of Lack's contract. Good riddance to Keagan Kanzig though. What a horrible draft pick. We gambled on size and lost. I think Lack is a good backup. Carolina gave us a high risk high reward D to dump him to us. Not many other teams were looking for a backup. It was either us or a buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, The_People1 said: We all wanted a D from Carolina because they have so many... But the last guy we wanted was Murphy. I wonder if there was a deal to be made where we add a bit more to land one of their other kids. Especially Bouma or Stajan (clear room for Jankowski). Good riddance to Keagan Kanzig though. What a horrible draft pick. We gambled on size and lost. I think Lack is a good backup. Carolina gave us a high risk high reward D to dump him to us. Not many other teams were looking for a backup. It was either us or a buyout. I believe CAR put the word out they were not trading any of their considered top defensemen. This is a deal BT can afford to take a flyer on as we need a back up goalie and more RHSD for our pipeline which is practically VOID right now. No gripes about this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertaBoy12 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, MAC331 said: I believe CAR put the word out they were not trading any of their considered top defensemen. This is a deal BT can afford to take a flyer on as we need a back up goalie and more RHSD for our pipeline which is practically VOID right now. No gripes about this deal. So much for that murphy is being bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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