Rory Kerins - 2020 6th rounder

[travel_dude]

7 minutes ago, conundrumed said:

Nice to see Kerins get in for both games now. Even prolly 4C/limited mins. He's good defensively, this level is a different beast though.

 

I think he's playing up in the lines but hard to tell with not much scoring.

[conundrumed]

3 minutes ago, travel_dude said:

 

I think he's playing up in the lines but hard to tell with not much scoring.

The Soo never really used him in a scoring role from the couple playoff games I watched. For all of the reg season pts he racked, even more impressive was he was their main defensive center all year. Hence his +/- wasn't great, always vs the opponent's best line. At some point I'll sit up half the night and catch a game.

Get past Colorado, and Chicago likely next, more my time zone.

[travel_dude]

50 minutes ago, conundrumed said:

The Soo never really used him in a scoring role from the couple playoff games I watched. For all of the reg season pts he racked, even more impressive was he was their main defensive center all year. Hence his +/- wasn't great, always vs the opponent's best line. At some point I'll sit up half the night and catch a game.

Get past Colorado, and Chicago likely next, more my time zone.

 

Game 2 was likely the hardest to win, but next game at elevation (5000 feet).  Get in early and go hiking.

They don't seem to track minutes in games, and they don't really cover the team much here.

 

I looked at the projected lines from game 2, which they said came from how game 1 unfolded:

 

Jakob Pelletier – Rory Kerins – Matthew Phillips
Justin Kirkland – Luke Philp – Martin Pospisil
Emilio Pettersen – Connor Zary – Eetu Tuulola
Alex Gallant – Byron Froese – Walker Duehr

Kevin Gravel – Nick DeSimone
Greg Moro – Colton Poolman
Ilya Solovyov – Andy Welinski

Dustin Wolf
Daniil Chechelev

 

That seems to make sense.  Phillips scored in game 1, and Kerins was a +1.

Only goal in game 2 was on the PP, having Phillips assisting on Kirkland's goal.

[conundrumed]

6 hours ago, travel_dude said:

 

Game 2 was likely the hardest to win, but next game at elevation (5000 feet).  Get in early and go hiking.

They don't seem to track minutes in games, and they don't really cover the team much here.

 

I looked at the projected lines from game 2, which they said came from how game 1 unfolded:

 

Jakob Pelletier – Rory Kerins – Matthew Phillips
Justin Kirkland – Luke Philp – Martin Pospisil
Emilio Pettersen – Connor Zary – Eetu Tuulola
Alex Gallant – Byron Froese – Walker Duehr

Kevin Gravel – Nick DeSimone
Greg Moro – Colton Poolman
Ilya Solovyov – Andy Welinski

Dustin Wolf
Daniil Chechelev

 

That seems to make sense.  Phillips scored in game 1, and Kerins was a +1.

Only goal in game 2 was on the PP, having Phillips assisting on Kirkland's goal.

+1

Wow if true. Gawdin must be injured. Can't say I expected that. I like that line though. Perhaps Pelts-Kerins being attached at the hip moving fwd could be delicious.

[travel_dude]

1 hour ago, conundrumed said:

+1

Wow if true. Gawdin must be injured. Can't say I expected that. I like that line though. Perhaps Pelts-Kerins being attached at the hip moving fwd could be delicious.

 

Gawdin out, but no reason mentioned.

He was projected to go at C on the top line.

Somewhere between practice and game 1 start, Kerins drew in.

I suppose it made the most sense, since it would not disrupt any other lines.

But that's a big change.

 

 

[conundrumed]

9 hours ago, travel_dude said:

 

Gawdin out, but no reason mentioned.

He was projected to go at C on the top line.

Somewhere between practice and game 1 start, Kerins drew in.

I suppose it made the most sense, since it would not disrupt any other lines.

But that's a big change.

 

 

Wow, talk about giving the kid the keys to the ferrari.lol

Good for him, big ask, but he's a smart player. He doesn't runaround forcing offence like most big point guys do. Led the O in faceoffs taken so he can likely hold his own.

I'm shocked but happy. Now I have to catch a game.

2 Wolf SOs 2 Kerins starts....coincidence?

Yes. Without question it's just a coincidence.lol

[travel_dude]

3 hours ago, conundrumed said:

Wow, talk about giving the kid the keys to the ferrari.lol

Good for him, big ask, but he's a smart player. He doesn't runaround forcing offence like most big point guys do. Led the O in faceoffs taken so he can likely hold his own.

I'm shocked but happy. Now I have to catch a game.

2 Wolf SOs 2 Kerins starts....coincidence?

Yes. Without question it's just a coincidence.lol

 

It's just odd that there doesn't seem to be any mention of Gawdin.

He was part of the top scoring Heat line all season.

Played 3 playoff games and had 4 points.

Must be injured.

[conundrumed]

53 minutes ago, travel_dude said:

 

It's just odd that there doesn't seem to be any mention of Gawdin.

He was part of the top scoring Heat line all season.

Played 3 playoff games and had 4 points.

Must be injured.

I watched the Heat youtube channel. Indeed, it was Kerins and Pelts celebrating Phillips' goal in game 1. Highlights are scant though. Just goals, really.

Can't find toi, faceoff data that might be helpful. Hopefully he's doing well.

He certainly looks like it's straight into the fire, which is likely okay.

The Spits are still alive, otherwise:

"Hold my beer" - Wyatt Johnston, probably. If the Texas Stars mattered.

[travel_dude]

Beck is with the team, but hasn't drawn in.

Probably the best thing, though.

He's been with the team a month, but no games.

The team is rolling right now.

Like I said, odd that Gawdin came out and Kerins in.

Not normal to sub a top producer from a top line.

No mention anywhere of an injury.

Perhaps there was some question about his play in the first round.

But he had 1g and 3a in 3 games.

 

Anyway, this is about Kerins.

Keep it up.

Help the Heat win the Calder.

Become a fixture with Pelts and show that you can be a callup.

Pretty significant that he comes right out of junior and i on the top line during the playoffs.

No adjustment, kid you are next up.

 

[cross16]

I don't think you will hear much about Gawdin and being out of the lineup based on this

 

 

[travel_dude]

56 minutes ago, cross16 said:

I don't think you will hear much about Gawdin and being out of the lineup based on this

 

 

 

Good to know.  It was very sudden.  Hope he and his family get through this okay.

[cross16]

Kerins showing up here in his first full AHL season. 

 

I understand he's been pretty up and down but it's nice to see some impact is there. Possibility he's on the radar in the next season or 2. 

 

Stromgren over Stankoven continues to look puzzling for the Flames. 

 

 

[robrob74]

53 minutes ago, cross16 said:

Kerins showing up here in his first full AHL season. 

 

I understand he's been pretty up and down but it's nice to see some impact is there. Possibility he's on the radar in the next season or 2. 

 

Stromgren over Stankoven continues to look puzzling for the Flames. 

 

 

 

 

To me, it looks like they went for the 6'3" over the 5'8" frame.

[sak22]

5 hours ago, robrob74 said:

 

 

To me, it looks like they went for the 6'3" over the 5'8" frame.

It was a pretty awful draft class.  Tough year to scout for sure with limited games for CHL players as Stankoven only had 6 games, but still should've had enough intel due to playing with Zary

[travel_dude]

2 hours ago, sak22 said:

It was a pretty awful draft class.  Tough year to scout for sure with limited games for CHL players as Stankoven only had 6 games, but still should've had enough intel due to playing with Zary

 

Played the season before and the stats were there to look at.

Picked a LW LHS over a RHS C?

Yeah, why would we want to draft a RHS C?

 

I think the crew here was literaly screaming at their computers when we passed on him and DAL picked him.  I remember the draft talk during the draft.  SMH.  We seem to have problems drafting out of Sweden.  Swedes no problem, but not in their leagues.

[conundrumed]

I know everyone wanted Stankoven over Stromgren, but it's given Stromgren a bad rap amongst fans. That isn't fair. It's like he gets written off because of it. Those arguments are thinner than paper.

I can defend that selection. If you're scouting potential, I may have made the same choice. We had all of zero prospects that looked like sturdy and skilled power forwards.

With Stankoven, we had enough undersized players. Most teams selected someone else. Most of these players aren't in the NHL.

Stromgren is freshly 21. It seems like he's been written off for years. Your SHL team calls you up. Guess what, you get 4th line and 6mins/gm. Just like the NHL. In, NA, you go, "what a bum, his stats suck". The key is, they called YOU up.

He's still progressing. He just finished his 1st full season in NA.

Let him develop. He'll be fine.

Nobody railed on the Coronato pick for not taking Wyatt Johnson instead.

It's not easy jumping leagues. Add in continents. Give the guy a fair shake. He was always going to be a project. He's developing nicely.

I have zero problem getting behind Stromgren. But...have we ever turned on a prospect so much because we wanted a different guy? It's not like we took him over Wyatt Johnson. Grushnikov was selected immediately after Stankoven, for perspective. Lots of teams passed on him.

As for us, it's been at least 10 years since we needed to get smaller.

[jjgallow]

2 hours ago, conundrumed said:

I know everyone wanted Stankoven over Stromgren, but it's given Stromgren a bad rap amongst fans. That isn't fair. It's like he gets written off because of it. Those arguments are thinner than paper.

I can defend that selection. If you're scouting potential, I may have made the same choice. We had all of zero prospects that looked like sturdy and skilled power forwards.

With Stankoven, we had enough undersized players. Most teams selected someone else. Most of these players aren't in the NHL.

Stromgren is freshly 21. It seems like he's been written off for years. Your SHL team calls you up. Guess what, you get 4th line and 6mins/gm. Just like the NHL. In, NA, you go, "what a bum, his stats suck". The key is, they called YOU up.

He's still progressing. He just finished his 1st full season in NA.

Let him develop. He'll be fine.

Nobody railed on the Coronato pick for not taking Wyatt Johnson instead.

It's not easy jumping leagues. Add in continents. Give the guy a fair shake. He was always going to be a project. He's developing nicely.

I have zero problem getting behind Stromgren. But...have we ever turned on a prospect so much because we wanted a different guy? It's not like we took him over Wyatt Johnson. Grushnikov was selected immediately after Stankoven, for perspective. Lots of teams passed on him.

As for us, it's been at least 10 years since we needed to get smaller.

 

It's nice to see I'm not the only one bumping 6 month old threads, nice work.   Not sure how it ties to Rory Kerins, but of Stromgren I will say that I never made a fuss about the pick.   Simply put, my standards were lower under BT.     Anything that wasn't miles off the board I gave the thumbs up otherwise I'd be railing about every pick.  

 

Passing over Stankoven was stupid, but, we had lots of stupid to choose from back then.  it wasn't the stupidest thing we were doing.     The undersized thing...yeah.   I am sure it was the #1 factor in passing over Stamkoven and you just know they were like "we already have Gaudreau" even though that doesn't make a lick of sense when you consider the player's ages.    But again, this didn't rank into the top 20 stupidest things were were doing that year.    

 

I'm cool with Stromgren and I think he is worthy of bumping any thread greater than 6 months ago whether it is or isn't related to him.   Happy to have him in the organization.

[conundrumed]

50 minutes ago, jjgallow said:

 

It's nice to see I'm not the only one bumping 6 month old threads, nice work.   Not sure how it ties to Rory Kerins, but of Stromgren I will say that I never made a fuss about the pick.   Simply put, my standards were lower under BT.     Anything that wasn't miles off the board I gave the thumbs up otherwise I'd be railing about every pick.  

 

Passing over Stankoven was stupid, but, we had lots of stupid to choose from back then.  it wasn't the stupidest thing we were doing.     The undersized thing...yeah.   I am sure it was the #1 factor in passing over Stamkoven and you just know they were like "we already have Gaudreau" even though that doesn't make a lick of sense when you consider the player's ages.    But again, this didn't rank into the top 20 stupidest things were were doing that year.    

 

I'm cool with Stromgren and I think he is worthy of bumping any thread greater than 6 months ago whether it is or isn't related to him.   Happy to have him in the organization.

It was 5 months ago, stop making Satoshi Nakamoto up. lol

'Tis but a speck of dust in the vast wilderness of human evolution. lol

 

As for Kerins, I remain hopeful. The kid works his tail off to exceed expectations. For a late rounder, it's all you can ask.

[conundrumed]

1 hour ago, conundrumed said:

'Tis but a speck of dust in the vast wilderness of human evolution. lol

Ahhh crap, @jjgallow is sooo going to use that against me in 5 or 6 months. lol