phoenix66 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 so who is it gonna be ? Based on this going down right during Bill Peter's contract window, I'm seeing smoke and smelling fire there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtownguy Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 You might well be correct. I believe that Vigneault would be an answer. He has had success, experience, and a lot of social capital to identify solid players in both conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Sure sounds like it will be Bill Peters. Which I would really like. No veteran coaches out there excite me. If it's no time Bill Peters I hope it's DJ smith or Todd Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I may be thoroughly nitpicking .. but Carolina's talent isn't awful.. its hard to gauge whether they overachieved or underachieved. He did have them in the race late this year though with really horrible goaltending Vigneault, i respect his experience , but my gut just says we are a bad fit.. maybe just cuz he hasn't much success without a veteran lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Carolina has a really good blue line but their forward crop is pretty bad, especially their centres. Personally im impressed with what Peters has done with that lineup and in that division. That's a murderous division and he keeps them in it every year despite some pretty glaring deficits in personnel, especially in comparison to other teams in that division. Most of the time when you get goaltending like he has, your a lottery pick team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I think Vigneault will run with vets and we won't see too many young guys come into the lineup and succeed. I think Peters makes a lot of sense. I get the hesitation based on the fact that he hasn't done much in Carolina, but that roster isn't great either and they haven't had any goaltending since he was coach there. I also think he has done a great job putting their young skilled players (Aho, Taravainen, Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce). I also like D.J. Smith and Sheldon Keefe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Thanks for changing the title. GG gone is no surprise. He lasted almost a week & 1/2 than I thought. As to replacements I'd be happy with Peters but hope we hold off about a week because it's looking more like Trotz will be available with every Caps game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Im curious to listen to treliving presser see what he says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Have to wonder based on this if the candidates are Peters, D.J. Smith and Trotz's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRT2017 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Does not really matter IMHO - Average team with Average top management playing in an Average Building = New coach every 2 or so years. Gives the fans something to talk about and management something to sell to get bums in the seats. Nothing new here - move on!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 That your Opinion but this isnt a average team when they have a coach that knows what he is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 It’s gonna be Peters... hails from Three Hills, so why not come home As average as we are we have two things Peters didn’t have in CAR a #1 C in Monahan a #1 goalie in Smith he didn’t have any of that in CAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: It’s gonna be Peters... hails from Three Hills, so why not come home As average as we are we have two things Peters didn’t have in CAR a #1 C in Monahan a #1 goalie in Smith he didn’t have any of that in CAR recognizing the personnel.. i hope he hires a proper PP coach (Paul Maclean keeps coming back to me ) cuz the Carolina PP was barely better than ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 The PP definitely has to improve as does the home record. I feel that the low shooting % was an anomaly and it will be closer to the norm next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Flyerfan52 said: Thanks for changing the title. GG gone is no surprise. He lasted almost a week & 1/2 than I thought. As to replacements I'd be happy with Peters but hope we hold off about a week because it's looking more like Trotz will be available with every Caps game. Those are my top 2 as well. I don;t know that they can wait for Trotz to be fired if they have to decide on Peters by Friday. By the looks of it, Trotz will have a job until at least Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Has anyone who wants Trotz watched the Caps lately? Ive been really unimpressed with his work. 5 on 5 the caps aren't good (shots wise but they are giving up a lot of goals) his utilization is arguably as bad as Gulutzan and starting Grubaeur is a real head scratcher. Persoanally I think Trotz is not a good fit for today's game. if the idea is to move the club forward I don't think Trotz is the guy to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, cross16 said: Has anyone who wants Trotz watched the Caps lately? Ive been really unimpressed with his work. 5 on 5 the caps aren't good, his utilization is arguably as bad as Gulutzan and starting Grubaeur is a real head scratcher. Persoanally I think Trotz is not a good fit for today's game. if the idea is to move the club forward I don't think Trotz is the guy to do that. TBH, I'm really hoping they keep him.. then we can go after Rierden (assuming Peters isnt a done deal ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, cross16 said: Has anyone who wants Trotz watched the Caps lately? Ive been really unimpressed with his work. 5 on 5 the caps aren't good, his utilization is arguably as bad as Gulutzan and starting Grubaeur is a real head scratcher. Persoanally I think Trotz is not a good fit for today's game. if the idea is to move the club forward I don't think Trotz is the guy to do that. Ya, plus Trotz never won the big one. Also, I thought NAS success was all Trotz but they went farther without Trotz than with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 54 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Ya, plus Trotz never won the big one. Also, I thought NAS success was all Trotz but they went farther without Trotz than with him. Prior to Lavi coaching, the big scorers were Weber, Hornqvist, Smith and Fisher. Lavi takes over and they have Forsberg and Neal to add to the team. Regardless, Trotz is an experienced coach. Don't know if he would be a fit here or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Trotz is a good coach. What's going on in WSH is unexplainable, but it was the same under Boudreau. Without Trotz NSH isn't the franchise they are today. He was instrumental in building that franchise up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, The_People1 said: Ya, plus Trotz never won the big one. Also, I thought NAS success was all Trotz but they went farther without Trotz than with him. I know a guy who has won the big one, and he happens to be available. His qualifications include: Six SC playoff appearances. Stanley Cup Winner. Calder Cup Winner. North West Division Title 4 times. South East Division Title. Swiss Championship Winner. Jack Adams Winner. 998 NHL games coached. 517 NHL wins. 0.586 playoff win percentage in 95 games. His teams have an identity of “hard working, hard to play against and never quit”. He dresses well, handles the media to perfection and has a great sense of humor. Only kicker is that he dwells solely on the positives, the negatives go in the trash can. He makes his players accountable by earning their ice time. He demands 100% from his players at all times, which is sometimes interpreted as being “too hard on the players” by a handful of millionaire ex-players. If we could overcome these few so called “coaching flaws”, we might have a coach candidate here. Alternatively, there is Bill Peters who has never coached an NHL playoff game, let alone win in the big league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 ^^^ Such a good candidate. You would think he would have been hired by a good NHL team after he was fired. There's always the Swiss league I guess if you are are too good for the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Such a qualified coach he landed the prestigious position of head coach of the Latvian National Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, travel_dude said: ^^^ Such a good candidate. You would think he would have been hired by a good NHL team after he was fired. There's always the Swiss league I guess if you are are too good for the NHL. You make it sound like Switzerland is a terrible place to be. Maybe BH is smarter than you think. https://www.newlyswissed.com/31-reasons-why-switzerland-is-the-happiest-country/ Where is it that you live again? 10 minutes ago, cross16 said: Such a qualified coach he landed the prestigious position of head coach of the Latvian National Team. I'm sure BH was the first guy they called. He was gracious to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrox Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 There's rumours of Darryl Sutter as well. I didn't mind him as the coach of the flames, just didn't like him as the GM. Wouldn't complain about Darryl Sutter or Bill Peters though. AV... I'm not sure if I trust a former Canuck coach. But he has had some success in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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