rocketdoctor Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Amazing that our worrygoing into the playoffs was goaltending. I guess that as this thread fell so far down that everyone is content with Smitty's performances? I just hope he isn't tired out with all the work we have given him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, rocketdoctor said: Amazing that our worrygoing into the playoffs was goaltending. I guess that as this thread fell so far down that everyone is content with Smitty's performances? I just hope he isn't tired out with all the work we have given him. I think the coaching staff did a great job scheduling and nurturing Smith back to top performance level. Win or lose with him now is how I see it. It will be the other parts of our game that must determine where we go from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, MAC331 said: I think the coaching staff did a great job scheduling and nurturing Smith back to top performance level. Win or lose with him now is how I see it. It will be the other parts of our game that must determine where we go from here. If the team pulls it together and Smith ends up shutting the bed I still won’t blame him for this series. He almost won us two more games but the team let him down in all 4 so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, rocketdoctor said: Amazing that our worrygoing into the playoffs was goaltending. I guess that as this thread fell so far down that everyone is content with Smitty's performances? I just hope he isn't tired out with all the work we have given him. Who would have predicted that we would get the October 2017 version of Smith in the playoffs? Since we have seen nothing to compare it to on the Flames, he looks to be the only reason why 3 games haven't been blowouts. Obviously, a different goalie/sytle changes the possible outcomes of games, but insert Rittich into the exact same shots? Who knows. Great swan song for Smitty. Kept fresh by playing less than 50 games, and we forgot to do the same with the forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, travel_dude said: Who would have predicted that we would get the October 2017 version of Smith in the playoffs? Since we have seen nothing to compare it to on the Flames, he looks to be the only reason why 3 games haven't been blowouts. Obviously, a different goalie/sytle changes the possible outcomes of games, but insert Rittich into the exact same shots? Who knows. Great swan song for Smitty. Kept fresh by playing less than 50 games, and we forgot to do the same with the forwards. I know this may ruffle some feathers but considering cap space and availability I wouldnt be totally opposed to resigning Smith 1 more year. On the condition he realizes he's there as a relief and mentor to Rittich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, flames-fan-in-jets-land said: I know this may ruffle some feathers but considering cap space and availability I wouldnt be totally opposed to resigning Smith 1 more year. On the condition he realizes he's there as a relief and mentor to Rittich. I fully expect it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, flames-fan-in-jets-land said: I know this may ruffle some feathers but considering cap space and availability I wouldnt be totally opposed to resigning Smith 1 more year. On the condition he realizes he's there as a relief and mentor to Rittich. I expect it too. And did before the playoffs. Rightly or wrongly I could tell that Rittich isn’t quite their guy (yet?). We don’t have any backup plans or succession plans yet. None of the prospects are ready. i would sign him to a 3M deal and say if a guy passes him then it’s good to go with that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 hours ago, flames-fan-in-jets-land said: I know this may ruffle some feathers but considering cap space and availability I wouldnt be totally opposed to resigning Smith 1 more year. On the condition he realizes he's there as a relief and mentor to Rittich. I get that people think Smith has brought his career back from the ledge. He's 37. Any contract has risk. As good as he is playing, do you expect that to continue another year? Re-signing Smith is a short-sighted view of the team. This isn't just about results, it's about the future in nets. But, I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, travel_dude said: I get that people think Smith has brought his career back from the ledge. He's 37. Any contract has risk. As good as he is playing, do you expect that to continue another year? Re-signing Smith is a short-sighted view of the team. This isn't just about results, it's about the future in nets. But, I digress. You're right but it's ultimately going to come down to who's available in the offseason, and at what price? Basically the devil you know vs the devil you don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 And dont forget Calgarys hands are tied somewhat they have to resign Gillis this year but this deal means when he has to go down to the ahl he is now clearing waivers so a team could pick him off like a grape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 55 minutes ago, The_Snowbear said: And dont forget Calgarys hands are tied somewhat they have to resign Gillis this year but this deal means when he has to go down to the ahl he is now clearing waivers so a team could pick him off like a grape Gillies may be a little more expendable with the signing of that KHL goalie. I'm not too sure how much faith anyone has in our current goalie pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 The UFA market for goalies isn’t very good Bob- 9-10x7 Lehner- he is gonna be handsomely compensated on the open market Talbot- 2 bad seasons in a row Elliott- no thanks Nilsson- maybe Mrázek- think he stays with CAR Mcelhinney- maybe if you are comfortable starting Rittich in 55 games Smith could easily be back next year I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Thebrewcrew said: The UFA market for goalies isn’t very good Bob- 9-10x7 Lehner- he is gonna be handsomely compensated on the open market Talbot- 2 bad seasons in a row Elliott- no thanks Nilsson- maybe Mrázek- think he stays with CAR Mcelhinney- maybe if you are comfortable starting Rittich in 55 games Smith could easily be back next year I think Talbot is a project. Ruined by the Oilers, much like Dubie. He's actually pretty good, as we have seen some nights. He would have to be a cheap signing. More insurance than anything. Rittich, the KHL guy and Talbot in camp and we keep the 2 best. Smith is a feel good story. Almost drummed out of the organization by the fans. Brought his game back from the brink. Retire on a good note. Too expensive to re-sign. He's not taking less than $4m and we still have Rittich to re-sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 hours ago, travel_dude said: Talbot is a project. Ruined by the Oilers, much like Dubie. He's actually pretty good, as we have seen some nights. He would have to be a cheap signing. More insurance than anything. Rittich, the KHL guy and Talbot in camp and we keep the 2 best. Smith is a feel good story. Almost drummed out of the organization by the fans. Brought his game back from the brink. Retire on a good note. Too expensive to re-sign. He's not taking less than $4m and we still have Rittich to re-sign. Id say retirement is the only way he doesn't re-sign-- and i dont see him retiring personally .Theres quality goaltenders still in the league at or near his age Hes going to know hes there as a backup and mentor, and push Rittich .. unless he shines , the Russian will spend the year in the A Not to mention the optics to your team and the potential UFAs, that we cut the best player we had in the playoffs really is not good.. any backup will be with the expectation of 25-30 games. If they steal the net, great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 18 hours ago, travel_dude said: I get that people think Smith has brought his career back from the ledge. He's 37. Any contract has risk. As good as he is playing, do you expect that to continue another year? Re-signing Smith is a short-sighted view of the team. This isn't just about results, it's about the future in nets. But, I digress. Let's see if we win this Avs series. If we do, then we can talk extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 This explains a lot, like why we saw Smith more down the stretch and why Rittich struggled after New Year's. Hopefully he can get healthy and get back to playing the way he did to start the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, JTech780 said: This explains a lot, like why we saw Smith more down the stretch and why Rittich struggled after New Year's. Hopefully he can get healthy and get back to playing the way he did to start the season. Treliving said after it was a knee. Feel even more comfortable with Rittich now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, cross16 said: Treliving said after it was a knee. Feel even more comfortable with Rittich now. The fact he wants to get to 100% rather than play in the worlds speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 hours ago, cross16 said: Treliving said after it was a knee. Feel even more comfortable with Rittich now. Amazing he was able to play at all. I think I remember the game when it happened. Somebody fell/was pushed on him. As far as Smith, I think he is done. He played really well for us in the playoffs. Saying that, have you seen how well other goalies are playing? While Smith was making saves on the breakaway, his 2nd and 3rd saves left a bit to be desired at times. He made a lot of them, but sometimes he dove to make a save and the 2nd shot went in. Watching some guys like RInne, Jones, Bishop, MAF make save after save after save.... They got better as the series went along. Anyway, I think it's time to move on. For 1/2 a season, we had one good goalie. Find a backup to keep Rttich fresh and healthy. 1B situation if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hey, I've been absent for a while, for my health and all of ours lol, Spencer Knight thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, jjgallow said: Hey, I've been absent for a while, for my health and all of ours lol, Spencer Knight thoughts? He related to Corbin? JK. Are you high on using a 1st on a goalie? How about we trade some big piece to WAS for Ilya Samsanov? Or with the Isles for Ilya Sorokin? That guy killed the KHL. Gotta start somewhere, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, travel_dude said: He related to Corbin? JK. Are you high on using a 1st on a goalie? How about we trade some big piece to WAS for Ilya Samsanov? Or with the Isles for Ilya Sorokin? That guy killed the KHL. Gotta start somewhere, right? Both of those guys are interesting. I suspect they'll all have similar costs. A little leary of a Ramo repeat. But for the right price would role dice. Imho, nobody is interested in rolling on a 1st for a goalie. Thus the appeal. Likely could be available with a high 2nd, or even our 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 10 hours ago, jjgallow said: Hey, I've been absent for a while, for my health and all of ours lol, Spencer Knight thoughts? I had noted in the draft thread..Id have him on my list if hes still there at 24. Many mocks have him going as high as 10th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 On 23/04/2019 at 10:26 AM, phoenix66 said: I had noted in the draft thread..Id have him on my list if hes still there at 24. Many mocks have him going as high as 10th We've been gun-shy ever since Trevor Kidd. I get it. It's hard to argue with. But if you get the next Patrick Roy there's a whole decade of Red Miles in store. One thing I will say, and this related to Trevor Kidd as well, if we get a top calibre goalie prospect again (and we Really need to), We'll also need to clean up our Entire goalie development system from end to end. Straight up. Otherwise it truly wouldn't make sense..for us, or the prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 It looks like both PITTS and WPG have an extra goaie in the fold. Jarry in PITTS Comrie in WPG Both are waiver eligible. Both have had some good seasons in the AHL, while Jarry has at least played decently in the NHL (not so much recently). Gillies has not had a good season in some time. Any interest in either potential castoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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