conundrumed Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Kulstad said: I moved all the woulda-shoulda-coulda non-goaltender talk to the The Rebuild Over thread. Please at least try to keep it on topic, folks. Why can't we like mod posts? Can all draft talk not be in crzy's thread in NHL Talk, pretty sure everyone knows he deserves it. What's to become of Elliot? I like and grew up with Army and all, but I'm not sure I agree with him moving Elliot at least a yr too soon. I don't doubt Jake Allen will be a force, just not yet. Like Price and Halak, you need to buy the time. Is Elliot TDL fodder should we continue on like the NJ game tonight??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Johnson keeps us in the game last night and gave us an opportunity to win, but his performance is wasted by a poor performance from the entire group in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 31 minutes ago, CheersMan said: Johnson keeps us in the game last night and gave us an opportunity to win, but his performance is wasted by a poor performance from the entire group in front of him. And at the beginning of the year, the team let down Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 54 minutes ago, travel_dude said: And at the beginning of the year, the team let down Elliott. Elliott has 10 losses this season. Only 2 losses came when he had a SA% > 0.900 (WSH & NYI). Where exactly do you think the Flames let him down early in the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, CheersMan said: Elliott has 10 losses this season. Only 2 losses came when he had a SA% > 0.900 (WSH & NYI). Where exactly do you think the Flames let him down early in the season? By their uninspired play, weak defensive play, weak PK, etc. Their first 6 games was 1-4-1, and not all of that is on the goalie, nor just on Elliott. Are you being sarcastic? Many here were blaming the coaches, new contracts for Johnny and Monahan, declining value from Gio, trading Hamilton, playing a plug for a defenseman.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, travel_dude said: By their uninspired play, weak defensive play, weak PK, etc. Their first 6 games was 1-4-1, and not all of that is on the goalie, nor just on Elliott. Are you being sarcastic? Many here were blaming the coaches, new contracts for Johnny and Monahan, declining value from Gio, trading Hamilton, playing a plug for a defenseman.... There’s no question the team was playing awful the first 20 games, but Elliott was not giving this team a chance to win then or now. First 20 games; Elliott, 11 games, 3W, 8L, SA% 0.879 Johnson, 9 games, 5W, 4L, SA% 0.908 Blaming the team for Elliott having league worst SA% is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, CheersMan said: There’s no question the team was playing awful the first 20 games, but Elliott was not giving this team a chance to win then or now. First 20 games; Elliott, 11 games, 3W, 8L, SA% 0.879 Johnson, 9 games, 5W, 4L, SA% 0.908 Blaming the team for Elliott having league worst SA% is weak. If you say so. I guess you didn't watch the games and only go by stats. Elliott let in bad goals, but way too many high-danger shots allowed and league worst PK. You actually think that the defense made either of those two shine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, travel_dude said: If you say so. I guess you didn't watch the games and only go by stats. Elliott let in bad goals, but way too many high-danger shots allowed and league worst PK. You actually think that the defense made either of those two shine? Trust me, I watch the games, usually in a live setting at the dome. You don't see me dragging stats out here like some, other than W, L and SA%. No I don’t think the defense made either goalie shine. What I’m saying is there is presently one goaltender that gives us the best chance at winning. What we need is for the other to raise his game so that we have 2 goaltenders getting us wins, not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Elliott get's the start tonight, so let's hope he brings his "A" game... It will go a long way to help him out if the D are more consistent than they were last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just noticed that I passed 10,000 posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Carty said: Just noticed that I passed 10,000 posts... Hey, you past me too. Up with the big boys now, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 11:55 AM, travel_dude said: By their uninspired play, weak defensive play, weak PK, etc. Their first 6 games was 1-4-1, and not all of that is on the goalie, nor just on Elliott. Are you being sarcastic? Many here were blaming the coaches, new contracts for Johnny and Monahan, declining value from Gio, trading Hamilton, playing a plug for a defenseman.... I'm pretty sure they were being sarcastic, travel_dude. These is simply no way anyone could disagree with you and be serious at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 3:10 PM, Carty said: Just noticed that I passed 10,000 posts... Eh, I'm more impressed by your 1938 likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Seems the book on Chad Johnson is to go high for a corner. It also seems the book is in reprint and circulating to the teams we are playing. I hope I am wrong on this observation. With the new smaller pads already being used in practices and about to be rolled out across the league for Feb 4, I am not going to hold my breath for either of our goalies to find their "A" game any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, DirtyDeeds said: Seems the book on Chad Johnson is to go high for a corner. It also seems the book is in reprint and circulating to the teams we are playing. I hope I am wrong on this observation. With the new smaller pads already being used in practices and about to be rolled out across the league for Feb 4, I am not going to hold my breath for either of our goalies to find their "A" game any time soon. It is like you say, we have to start finding goals and fast. If we want to win, we have to start outscoring the other team. That means scoring 5-6 goals. But we are having troubles scoring this year. Everyone else on here seem to think that we are doing well with getting shots on net too. It's not just some of the commentators. Steinberg and Kerr seem to think that it's not the shots, but the quality of chances we aren't getting. And it's on the players to get those chances. And when they do get the chances, they don't hit the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, DirtyDeeds said: Seems the book on Chad Johnson is to go high for a corner. It also seems the book is in reprint and circulating to the teams we are playing. I hope I am wrong on this observation. With the new smaller pads already being used in practices and about to be rolled out across the league for Feb 4, I am not going to hold my breath for either of our goalies to find their "A" game any time soon. I believe that it is new pants, not pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, travel_dude said: I believe that it is new pants, not pads. I would hope its just pants. Cant imagine changing pads across the league Feb 4. Now that would be comical and PVR material on the first night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 It is just pants. They are holding off on everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarome_Iginla12 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 too bad they can't lure Kipper out of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 hours ago, DirtyDeeds said: With the new smaller pads already being used in practices and about to be rolled out across the league for Feb 4, I am not going to hold my breath for either of our goalies to find their "A" game any time soon. On the bright side, we might actually score on the other teams goalie now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketdoctor Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Okay, when does the goalie coach become accountable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 We've talked about acquiring goalies & re-signing Johnson but 1 thing I'm still wondering about is what happens if we remain without a goalie that meets conditions for the LV expansion. Do they get to pick 1 of our prospect Goalies? It wouldn't make sense for us to give up assets for 1 goalie only to have to expose him. If we do find 1 that's a fit I hope BT pulls someone like Ramo or Emery off the scrap pile on a cheap 2 way for next season so we have someone to expose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 hours ago, rocketdoctor said: Okay, when does the goalie coach become accountable? I'm thinking the same applies in Winnipeg. Loyalty is nice but in both cities we see goalie graveyards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Flyerfan52 said: We've talked about acquiring goalies & re-signing Johnson but 1 thing I'm still wondering about is what happens if we remain without a goalie that meets conditions for the LV expansion. Do they get to pick 1 of our prospect Goalies? It wouldn't make sense for us to give up assets for 1 goalie only to have to expose him. If we do find 1 that's a fit I hope BT pulls someone like Ramo or Emery off the scrap pile on a cheap 2 way for next season so we have someone to expose. I could be wrong on this but Thomas McCollum fits the requirements for the expansion draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Flyerfan52 said: We've talked about acquiring goalies & re-signing Johnson but 1 thing I'm still wondering about is what happens if we remain without a goalie that meets conditions for the LV expansion. Do they get to pick 1 of our prospect Goalies? It wouldn't make sense for us to give up assets for 1 goalie only to have to expose him. If we do find 1 that's a fit I hope BT pulls someone like Ramo or Emery off the scrap pile on a cheap 2 way for next season so we have someone to expose. JTech is right. They signed Tom McColum and he fits the expansion draft requirements so they are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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