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This year the team has gotten a bit tougher. So the only thing I question is, are the Flames the type of team Burke envisions? Maybe not yet.
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Isnt Johnson 27? edit: checked, he is 30. Not terribly old. Even if he became serviceable for another 5-6 years it gives us time for the youngsters to age into their position.
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It's not that I don't like Elliott, I want him to play well, and he has from time to time, but not always looking pretty while doing it.
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Well, at least this year we have reason to believe the play is sustainable. At least I hope it is. Like you said, the system. I just feel like Elliott still hasn't been very comfortable in net yet. The coaches are giving him easier games to try get him into a groove. It's the NHL and no game is supposed to be easy, but his opponents, minus the Canucks, have been less than stellar. I like how the team team is playing for the most part. PP and PK are coming around. It is a huge jump considering we were last about a month ago.
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See that's where my theories on team play and goaltending differ. Last year, The team played like crap more than not, but the fans believed the goalies could and should prop them enough to win. While now, the team is playing a 1000 x better but now this goalie doesn't give very much comfort in how he plays but I gotta give him a break? Maybe I am being too harsh, but even when he wins I am not sure he is going to make the saves. Until he puts it together consistently, I can't change my mind. Or he just isn't starter material and St. Louis already knew that. He had a team that played next to perfect D to prop his numbers.
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I would even say that Elliott has been just as bad as our goaltending was last year. This year, we are playing better as a team overall. Last year he would have lost just as much as the goalies we had.
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Just because Johnson had a losing streak doesn't mean he was playing poorly. His opponents were more difficult as well. Elliot had a winning streak against bottom feeders and didn't even look good doing it. I don't know I still think Elliot has to find a way to win that Vancouver game. I hope he can turn it around, not much has suggested his game has improved this year. I take the bottom feeder games with a grain of salt. So far this season, nothing in Elliott's game has proven he is the better goalie or superior.
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I feel bad though, as I really wanted Elliott to do well. In terms of his style of play, has he always crouched as low as he has? I know it makes him looked dialled in, but I just feel like he's not all there at the moment.
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Anyone else feel like Elliot looks a lot like Ortio? I wonder if Ramo would be as good or better than Elliot? I know the numbers do not say that is the case. And I guess he didn't even make the Leafs. Is it just that Elliott isn't confident? I feel like he leaves the upper net open too much. Which was what I didn't like about Ortio.
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I think I can get on a lot of what the article is saying. I always had a problem with the shots for against argument most anal-ytics cling to. Russell is a decent D. When paired with Wideman, what do you expect? Plus, remember the first year he was in Calgary? We suffered really bad without him and then he came off injury and there was a noticeable difference. I think he is tops, a #4 D guy. But he'd be a great #5... but he will probably get paid as a #4...
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I was and have been worried about the player(s) we possibly gave up by trading our 1st for Hamilton in a deep draft. If we could shore up another top4 D for next season, I think I will be happy with what we have. Not having Hamilton makes me wonder where we'd be on D. I guess I am coming around in this one. How many dynamic players do we need? We have Johnny. Hopefully Mangiapane can develop into a complimentary dynamic player for lower lines. Right now i like how our Top6 forward pairs are shaping up. Gaudreau Monahan Bennett Tkackuk Pair the wings with a center. It is a matter of getting some speedy skilled enough wingers to compliment those lines. But I, like you , want another threat.
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Is it time for the Flames to start Elliott? Has Johnson fell from grace? Or is it the team play? Again?
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I think Johnson is a starter and this not not just a hot streak. Nothing in his game tells me it's a fluke or a streak. He goes about every play the same way, makes a 1st save, controls the rebound, and that's what you ask of a good quality starter. When you've been a career backup, what games do you usually have to play? The 2nd game of back-to-backs. Games where the team is tired. Plus the rthym is usually off, and the team doesn't know what to expect or have chemistry. Communication with the players is important. We are witnessing a goalie coming into his own.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Gillies takes two more years to develop. Maybe one or two more year in the AHL. He could come up when he is 24 or 25. Is that considered a failure or good developing? Is it that we have bad developing or bad drafting of goaltenders?
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They are calling an ex Oiler "probably" the 2nd best goalie in the NHL. I know he didn't become that, they did almost ruin him. The spot was there, but they also had so many other holes in their game that there was no way Dubynk would look good. Talbot is doing ok, but wouldn't they want dubynk now?
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Exactly. I was just defending Johnson's play. I know that he had a lot to prove still, but he is playing really well, close to a #1.... i want to get Elliott going as well. I hope to get an even more intense battles between the pipes.
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I think it's just too hard to judge. Even though the game has changed a lot recently, and in the time of Roloson. But he came into his own in his 30s and played competitively until he was 40. Even if Johnson is turning into a #1 - not saying he is, but it's possible - he could still have a lot in him... If it is only 6 or 7 years, that's still a pretty decent amount of time to be a starter, around 300 games.
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Can't deny that he has been playing well for the past two seasons and it is possible that Johnson has just figured it out. Johnson is very calm and composed and uses his size to his advantage. He barely gets rattled and rarely gets out of position. For goalies it takes a little longer and the fact that he only played 115 games in the NHL tells me he had to pay his dues and figure out the game in the AHL.
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That probably does look a bit better. Gio seems to need Brodie though.
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This is what I've been saying the last two years in here. We needed better goaltending. The goalie's we have are better than what we've had the last 3 seasons. It is the team D that needs to improve now.
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Play Giordano Hamilton on the PP. I just think everyone is trying to do too much now and it might be time to preach a simplified approach. Or are we going to get to game 55 and realize we are out and then all the weight is off the shoulders and just play? Then there is another false sense of improved play and only 10 points out of a playoff spot.
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Stockton Heat Updates [2016-2017]
robrob74 replied to travel_dude's topic in Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects
And that's what I mean, to get into openings and positions is a skill. Getting into passing lanes is hockey sense. It is good to see. I was worried he wasn't progressing. -
Stockton Heat Updates [2016-2017]
robrob74 replied to travel_dude's topic in Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects
Not saying Klimchuk will keep it up, but scoring opportunities are also products of the linemates and what scoring position he gets himself into. It probably means he is getting into good places. -
Until they change the way they pass, we can't tell what is going on. I think they have to preach some simplified pp.
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I like what you did there! But I think he's a bit of a bigger ( . )
