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Do you or does anyone else think that Lombardi has a similar philosophy of how Burke wants the team to play? I think it is possible, but then again, I do have mixed feelings on how Treliving has done, but mostly like it so far. The growing pains of being a GM showed early. But I think his strengths have been in trades and negotiating with players within our system, minus Bouma (an example of one of the growing pains).
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I know what you mean. But playing beer league, I know we got the worst calls when we complained. Because we had the same 4-6 refs they knew our team were whiners, so a penalty was never the same on both sides. Thats where they should take emoyion out and hust call any infraction a penalty and teams will try not to. It was really the unfairness that makes it feel worse. I think that's probably more what is happening. Gaudreau gets slash, he complains and the refs take acception to that.
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I didn't know where to put this, but because it deals with Wideman, I am posting here. the Flames contacted the league about the penalties. They believe there is a Wideman effect. Players are emotional, so are refs. The team chirping at the team doesn't help.
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I would say it is players and goalies to blame. Both are extremely cerebral, and they influence each other. That's my take. When one doesn't trust the other, it effects the way the other plays. On one hand, they can play good in spite, but at the same time, I think if it is cumulative then we see brain farts happen. My take, but not exactly science and I think I get negative responses or critiques in my theory. I tend to defend goalies because they get blamed but I also think it goes both ways. I just think you can't blame one or the other.
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The Flames still need to stop the turnovers in our own zone. I agree that Wideman made a huge bonehead play in the game tonight. But they really need to get someone else.
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Its why i wonder why us colleges don't allow jr players to play in college. They don't make money and they're now fighting to get paid a minimum wage to play. I guess it is because the organization pays trainers to train them? Flights and room and board?
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He went un-drafted in his draft year. I think we signed him after the draft. I think it probably depends on whether the goalie enters this draft or not. Did he not get drafted last year? Was it his first Draft year? I think that players can sign after they've gone through a draft and were not picked. I guess that adds to a question, do all players end up in the draft pool? Or does a player have to apply to be? I guess players can't just skip it and end-up a free agent. So I guess it depends on whether he went through a draft and wasn't selected?
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The one thing about the Fins is that they've been pretty decent at developing goalies. Just a thought to go with JJ's post.
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It sounds like he had a good game tonight. From what I saw, watching the third, he made the saves when he had to. Nothing flashy, but shut the door.
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It was the first ever coaches rant. It's not that terrible that the coaches ranted. I get it, shouldn't call out the players and players shouldn't call out their goalies. This team does have a history of defensive breakdowns. We had some clean hockey for awhile, but they've reverted back to breakdowns. I also get he only saved so many. It's everyone's fault right now.
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Elliott hasn't been played like a #1 because he hadn't played like a #1, and has yet to so far.
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It is like you say, we have to start finding goals and fast. If we want to win, we have to start outscoring the other team. That means scoring 5-6 goals. But we are having troubles scoring this year. Everyone else on here seem to think that we are doing well with getting shots on net too. It's not just some of the commentators. Steinberg and Kerr seem to think that it's not the shots, but the quality of chances we aren't getting. And it's on the players to get those chances. And when they do get the chances, they don't hit the net.
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I think that was something we had to do 2 or 3 years ago. Making the playoffs now looks like it hurt us a bit more than it helped due to not having that high pick that year. Although, that pick is Hamilton I think?
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I think you're a little overly critical on his trades. Those ones didn't really involve anything and aren't ones that you consider blockbuster, or meant to make a huge difference. You fail to mention the Hamilton deal and I think everyone thought the Elliott deal was very good.
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I definitely agree with this. I think we have a good start to the D, but I've been preaching for a shut down the past few years. We say we have a good mobile D, but yes, we have four offensive guys, and they are all decent to good defensively, but sometimes make a bad decision here and there. There just isn't the shut down type who is heavy on the other team's stars.
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There are vets, yes, but if we don't want them, who will? It's not like the NHL is bustling with trades right now. It's a cap world and all GMs are handcuffed until the trade deadline. Yes we have needs. Our biggest need is a top6 forward. This is another reason why I think we need to play Bennett at wing right now. It would (hopefully) stabilize the top6 for now.
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This year the team has gotten a bit tougher. So the only thing I question is, are the Flames the type of team Burke envisions? Maybe not yet.
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Isnt Johnson 27? edit: checked, he is 30. Not terribly old. Even if he became serviceable for another 5-6 years it gives us time for the youngsters to age into their position.
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It's not that I don't like Elliott, I want him to play well, and he has from time to time, but not always looking pretty while doing it.
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Well, at least this year we have reason to believe the play is sustainable. At least I hope it is. Like you said, the system. I just feel like Elliott still hasn't been very comfortable in net yet. The coaches are giving him easier games to try get him into a groove. It's the NHL and no game is supposed to be easy, but his opponents, minus the Canucks, have been less than stellar. I like how the team team is playing for the most part. PP and PK are coming around. It is a huge jump considering we were last about a month ago.
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See that's where my theories on team play and goaltending differ. Last year, The team played like crap more than not, but the fans believed the goalies could and should prop them enough to win. While now, the team is playing a 1000 x better but now this goalie doesn't give very much comfort in how he plays but I gotta give him a break? Maybe I am being too harsh, but even when he wins I am not sure he is going to make the saves. Until he puts it together consistently, I can't change my mind. Or he just isn't starter material and St. Louis already knew that. He had a team that played next to perfect D to prop his numbers.
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I would even say that Elliott has been just as bad as our goaltending was last year. This year, we are playing better as a team overall. Last year he would have lost just as much as the goalies we had.
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Just because Johnson had a losing streak doesn't mean he was playing poorly. His opponents were more difficult as well. Elliot had a winning streak against bottom feeders and didn't even look good doing it. I don't know I still think Elliot has to find a way to win that Vancouver game. I hope he can turn it around, not much has suggested his game has improved this year. I take the bottom feeder games with a grain of salt. So far this season, nothing in Elliott's game has proven he is the better goalie or superior.
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I feel bad though, as I really wanted Elliott to do well. In terms of his style of play, has he always crouched as low as he has? I know it makes him looked dialled in, but I just feel like he's not all there at the moment.
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Anyone else feel like Elliot looks a lot like Ortio? I wonder if Ramo would be as good or better than Elliot? I know the numbers do not say that is the case. And I guess he didn't even make the Leafs. Is it just that Elliott isn't confident? I feel like he leaves the upper net open too much. Which was what I didn't like about Ortio.
