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Not really. It's just assessing a full risk spectrum rather than just only focusing on the positives. I don't think you get franchise altering player late in the top 10 so again your only throwing out this scenario as "what if the best case scenario" happens. Did Trading Jeff Carter for Jacob Voraceck alter the Flyers history?

The ease of which people think you can acquire top 10 picks is pretty misguided IMO. The most common way that happens is to get future 1st round picks and hope things go in your favor. Boston trading Phil Kessel, Matt Duschence, Erik Karlson etc etc. Once teams know their in the top 10 then maybe in some softer draft years, team will deal a known pick but I think for the same reasons everyone here wants the Flames to acquire more top 10 picks is exactly why teams don't trade them. They fall in love with the potential and as much as some try and argue "well those teams don't want to wait" that's not what history has shown us. From a Flames angle I also question the thought process of the all the eggs in the basket approach. A player like Andersson should net you multiple pieces, or potential 1 more known piece, so I don't think the smart approach is to limit yourself to 1 piece. If you try and trade him for a top 10 pick I don't think your getting anything else in return so what if that player doesn't work out? You've just dealt one of your best trade pieces for nothing. Not a smart team building approach IMO. I think if your retooling, or even rebuilding, you need to build up an asset base. Acquiring future first if you want to try and get in the top 10 but don't put all your eggs in 1 basket I don't see that as smart.

for a big guy though, Tanev has great agility and awesome edge work. He can mirror guys in the d zone with his edges and agility. from what I’ve seen this is where Yakemchuk struggles. no problem with his speed and how he joins the rush I just don’t think his feet are fast enough to be able to defend at a high level in the NHL. think he can be a good pro just think that will limit him to 2nd pair or lower small possibility he can work it out. I mean he’s a big guy for 18 so could make the case that will get better I just don’t think it tends to

Totally fair. I have a bias towards to the transition dmen and the more "modern" ones. It's not that I dislike Yakemchuk I just don't see him having a high ceiling in the pro game. I don't think his skating is good enough.

Haven't really like Hanley so I agree with giving the guy you gave up a 5th round pick for more leeway.

I might cry a little if Buium goes 1 pick before them..... Although Parekh is not exactly a consolation prize. Think my preference is Flames go D in this draft. I think your getting better value there. Not that the forwards are better, I just think the ceilings are higher with the D in this range.

Dustin Wolf since the Flames have actually made it a point to play him .966 Save % .947 Save % .875 Save % (WSH, where team ws awful and he still gave them a chance to stay in it) .926 Save % He just looks so much better in the net. I was really happy with his game on Sunday. Tracked pucks well, more controlled in his movement and not flailing as much as he was earlier in the year. He always seems to take a game or two to get comfortable and I think he's there now. sure he'd want the Krebs goal back but that happens. Said it before and say it again there is no reason Markstrom should be a Flame next season. Not suggesting give him the net, but the Flames need to give him more than 20-30 games.

No thanks for me. Turn the page. Gaudreau left, left for his own reasons and I see no value in going down that path again. Has nothing to do with Huberdeau, which for sure I can see the logic in getting out from under the deal, it's the idea that I see no value in revisiting Gaudreau here again.

I think there is a large difference between playing in the NHL as the son of a legend and playing in the same market (and a Canadian one to boost) as the son of a legend who also played in that market. For sure Tij is going to have to own the last name, but owning it while playing in Calgary is another beast. At the end of the day what this boils down to me is does Tij have a burning desire to be here. If he can't look me in the eye and basically beg me to draft him I'd take him off my board.

I think this is only looking at it based off of draft expectations. You don't think there are any external pressures coming from the fact this guy is Jarome's son? Best player ever in this franchise's history and there are no pressures that come from following that? That's the pressure i'm referring to. I don't think he can carve out his own future here, it will always be tied to Jarome. As a dad i woudln't want that for my son. but I don't know Tij maybe he wants that so I can't say.

Which I would already argue are too high for the type of prospect Tij is. I think he settles in as more of a top 6 winger than a first line.

I'll be curious to see how this plays out. Honestly If I were Jarome I think i'd be asking Conroy to not draft him. I see Tij being drafted by the Flames as an unwinnable situation. Nothing against Tij as a prospect but I think the mountain of expectations that would follow him would be unwinnable for almost everyone.

Pittsburgh and Seattle look awful right now which isn't helping. I don't think flames will win many games down the stretch but I also don't think those 2 teams will either.

I really don't like how the Flames have handled Coronato all year but my main questions right now is not for Huska it's for the front office. Why is he even up here? Never really made sense to me that the time and now looks just like a desperate move to try and salvage playoffs that were never going to happen anyway. I just don't know what Huska can do to get Coronato playing. Your not moving Popisil and I'm not moving Coleman so sure I guess you could drop Kuzmenko but I still think the Flames should be trying to boost that trade value. Plus I don't think you can have Kuzmenko playing 4th line because of how bad his off puck play is. I don't think you play Coronato in a 4th line role here when he could be playing all situation in the A. Just never should have been called up IMO.

IMO that the type of game you want right now. Wolf was good, save for the first goal, team played solid, didn't give up, but lack of talent did them in and they lose the 2 points. That is what is best right now.

I don't think the odds are good this guy every touches the NHL but at the same time the Flames needed depth. Not just defensive depth in the NHL but across the organization. Of the 10 dman the Wranglers are using right now only 2 of them are under contract for next season and 3 more are RFAs. The only person on their reserve list who "might" be an AHL option for next year is Jake Botlman and I doubt they sign him. So there isn't help coming there. Depth and Dmen were badly needed for the Wranglers and now they can build a decent core down there. Solo - Brzustewicz Porier - Brady Lyle Kuznetsov - Grushnikov Jurmo Looks significantly better, even as call ups/promotions happen.

That’s a bad deal for the flames IMo. I wouldn’t do that.

You have to go back to 2008 for the last time a team traded back out of the top 5/6. Leafs had to give up a 2 and a 3 to move up 2 spots to get Luke Schenn. Cost a 2nd for the Preds to go from 9 to 7 that same year too. Since then the only time a top 10 picks has changed hands is via a player trade. I think it would be very expensive for the Flames to move up and I think the price tag would be the Vancouver first. I think teams put a really high value on top 10 picks now.

I really don't get the Flames handling of Coronato this year

You might want to look up where Jankowski was actually playing before you throw a criticism in there that isn't valid. But agreed there was some bad process in there, most important of which was the size and breadth of the Flames scouting team at the time. Happy that's been corrected. It is fair to criticize the organization's scouting at the time for sure and I would too. It was getting better, but wasn't there yet. By no means suggesting the Flames were in good shape or handled that draft well because they didn't. Just that I think it should be pointed out that their evaluation on Jankowski was not near as bad as it's made out to be.

Actually i said the opposite. I said Vasilevsky is the player that makes you scratch your head. I'm simply offering the possibility that it's likely the Flames didn't have a good read on him as they were not scouting Russia much at the time. I don't think passing on a few good, but not great players, makes it an all time bad decision nor does it mean they were way off on their evaluation of the player. It makes it a bad pick but bad picks happen all the time by every franchise. I wouldn't put Janko in the top 5 worst picks in Flames history, let alone call him an all time worst decision but if you want to go over the top by all means.

What gets lost in the Jankowksi discussion, is you look at the actual analysis/scouting of the player I don't think the Flames were wrong on the player nor was Jankowski an egregious pick. Sabres traded up and took Girgenson. He's played more games sure, but in terms of their impact you'd be hard pressed to convince me he was a much better pick. He's had a better career than Grigorenko who was taken 2 spots before the Flames were picking. He was better than the number 8 and 10 pick in that draft. 30th in his draft class for goals. Outside of Vaslivesky who is the "OMG they passed on this guy?". Ceci? Hertl? Wilson? Good players sure but an egregious miss to take Janko over those guys? If you remove the hype and how the Flames handled him I don't think the Jankowski picks is near as egregious as it's made out to be by fans. It was a bad draft year. Obviously Vasilevsky is the outlier and I have no idea what led to them not liking him or having Janko higher. My suspicion would be is at the time they likely weren't well set up to be scouting Russia as that was pretty much ignored under Sutter but they clearly learned from that afterwards.

I think lists should be arbitrary because not every team is looking for the same thing in terms of players, character, attitude, skill sets etc. This idea there there should be consensus when it comes to drafting is flawed and always has been. I'd much rather take a player that my scout(s) believe in or have conviction over than looking at some consensus list of watered down opinions. You'll win some and you'll lose some but IMO it is 100% the better way to go.

Zary back in lines and working on PP2. Should be ready to return, or at least pretty darn close

Vladar done for the year with hip surgery. Hope this means there is a plan to make sure Wolf plays down the stretch and they don't just hand the net back to Markstrom