cberg Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 On 2/15/2024 at 10:46 AM, travel_dude said: So, just to add fuel to the fire.... Markstrom not on the ice today (optional skate for him). Wolf in starter net and Vladar backing up. Wolf was on an emergency recall due to Vladar being on IR. So far Vladar still showing on IR. But if he's on the ice? Sounds like a good D pickup, and we’ll need two immediately after next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Big thank you to Tanev! You’ve been a rock for the flames!! Now go win yourself a cup, and circle back with us in the summer ok? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 19 minutes ago, LouCifer said: I like the play here by Conroy. it’s been widely reported that Tanev had a lot more interested teams than Hanifin. Well, Tanev is gone now. And the Stars got even stronger in the western conference. All those teams that missed out on Tanev now only have Hanifin as an option. well played. Feels like Conroy set a price. Whoever met it first got the player. VAN jumped on Lindholm early based on same idea. This was the ask for Tanev. And now we see who will meet the ask for Hanifin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 It's a fine return. Would have been nice if the Flames could have gotten a condition on the 2nd, that it could become a 1st if DAL made the Finals. Oh well. Four picks in the top 64 is nice. Also nice to add another D prospect. I think the GM realizes how thin they are at that position. Grushnikov, Jurmo, Brzustewicz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Thebrewcrew said: It's a fine return. Would have been nice if the Flames could have gotten a condition on the 2nd, that it could become a 1st if DAL made the Finals. Oh well. Four picks in the top 64 is nice. Also nice to add another D prospect. I think the GM realizes how thin they are at that position. Grushnikov, Jurmo, Brzustewicz I forgot about Jurmo too. LHS LD stay-at-home type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otown72 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 I'm glad the deal is done. Every game that went by Tanev was one wrong blocked shot from ending up on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberg Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Otown72 said: I'm glad the deal is done. Every game that went by Tanev was one wrong blocked shot from ending up on IR. So true, and a bit less anxiety for the rest of the team. Now, who gets promoted into that spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, The_People1 said: I forgot about Jurmo too. LHS LD stay-at-home type. Need some forwards now with the Hanifin and Markstrom trades. They are giving Kuz the 4th line treatment. Because Hunt is such a fine player that never stuck anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, LouCifer said: Big thank you to Tanev! You’ve been a rock for the flames!! Now go win yourself a cup, and circle back with us in the summer ok? Kinda funny. I remember when Tanev signed. It was in the evening of UFA 2020. It was largely hated by Flames fans. Injury prone guy. They were still paying the Brouwer buyout and this contract was the exact same as Brouwer's. We were all wrong. It was an excellent contract and Tanev was a real pleasure to watch with the Flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 It's basically two 2nd rounders and a possible 3rd Rounder. A pretty good return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, The_People1 said: I forgot about Jurmo too. LHS LD stay-at-home type. I don't mind it at all. The game has really changed. Now the D that go at the top of the draft, ironically, aren't all that strong defensivsely. It's the era of the offensive defenceman. I don't mind taking fliers on some of these guys as additonal pieces in trades. I like it a lot more than spending a 2nd on Kuznetsov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Thebrewcrew said: Kinda funny. I remember when Tanev signed. It was in the evening of UFA 2020. It was largely hated by Flames fans. Injury prone guy. They were still paying the Brouwer buyout and this contract was the exact same as Brouwer's. We were all wrong. It was an excellent contract and Tanev was a real pleasure to watch with the Flames. I was 50/50, and more worried about injury, but understood I hated him as a Canuck because he was so steady. Good player! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Here's a great way to break it down and see how the pieces technically moved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: Kinda funny. I remember when Tanev signed. It was in the evening of UFA 2020. It was largely hated by Flames fans. Injury prone guy. They were still paying the Brouwer buyout and this contract was the exact same as Brouwer's. We were all wrong. It was an excellent contract and Tanev was a real pleasure to watch with the Flames. Yep. I was one of them, admittedly. But he changed my initial, incorrect opinion very quickly. He’s one of the good ones for sure, and I sincerely hope he gets a chance to win a cup. I’m routing for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberg Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 11 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: Kinda funny. I remember when Tanev signed. It was in the evening of UFA 2020. It was largely hated by Flames fans. Injury prone guy. They were still paying the Brouwer buyout and this contract was the exact same as Brouwer's. We were all wrong. It was an excellent contract and Tanev was a real pleasure to watch with the Flames. Yeah, being an armchair GM is so easy, since we know so much(NOT). Hopefully this trade works out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 14 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: Kinda funny. I remember when Tanev signed. It was in the evening of UFA 2020. It was largely hated by Flames fans. Injury prone guy. They were still paying the Brouwer buyout and this contract was the exact same as Brouwer's. We were all wrong. It was an excellent contract and Tanev was a real pleasure to watch with the Flames. Yups. I felt we overpaid for a 3rd pair stay-at-home D... Didn't realize he was one of the league's best. Kelly Hrudey was even trying to give him the Norris trophy two seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberg Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Question: So presumably Grushnikov moves to the Wranglers immediately, and starts earning his call-up to the Flames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 16 minutes ago, LouCifer said: Yep. I was one of them, admittedly. But he changed my initial, incorrect opinion very quickly. He’s one of the good ones for sure, and I sincerely hope he gets a chance to win a cup. I’m routing for him. I liked the signing but what made it difficult was that it was essentially Brodie for Tanev. We failed to deal with Brodie's pending UFA and ended up signing Tanev before circling back to Brodie. BT failed us too often to overcome the good things. Neal begat Lucic trade in 19/20 Lucic begat losing Brodie (cap) but able to sign Tanev. Lucic begat losing 1st to MTL for Monahan. Signing Neal and Brower set us up to fail. Trading Neal for Lucic left us sucking air for cap space. We aren't able to spend where we needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, cberg said: Question: So presumably Grushnikov moves to the Wranglers immediately, and starts earning his call-up to the Flames? Well I don't think he has earned prime time yet over the awesome Oesterle. If anything, they move Kylington to Weegar and Hanifin to Ras. That leaves open Gilbert or Oesterle with Pachal. Neither of them should be in the top 6, but we shall see. New guy is a LHS, so COULD pair with Pachal, but maybe shouldn't yet. He's 20. Solo deserves it first. Or perhaps they go for the field goal from 50 yard line and call up Poirier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, travel_dude said: I liked the signing but what made it difficult was that it was essentially Brodie for Tanev. We failed to deal with Brodie's pending UFA and ended up signing Tanev before circling back to Brodie. BT failed us too often to overcome the good things. Neal begat Lucic trade in 19/20 Lucic begat losing Brodie (cap) but able to sign Tanev. Lucic begat losing 1st to MTL for Monahan. Signing Neal and Brower set us up to fail. Trading Neal for Lucic left us sucking air for cap space. We aren't able to spend where we needed it. Brodie and Gio are UFAs this summer… just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, LouCifer said: Brodie and Gio are UFAs this summer… just saying. Time for BT to mess that up? Naw, it's late career for those guys. Gio keeps going an going, but Brodie is showing his age. I think he hangs it up soon. Been around for so long. Never really got paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickross Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Nice trade for Tanev, he’s a warrior but the guys turning 35 and a UFA so glad we got some futures and a prospect for him. I trust Conroy enough to know he’s not getting fleeced, he’s carefully weighing these offers and returns. Hanifin will be an interesting one, he’s getting us back another 1st rounder at the very least, I don’t think the Flames move Markstrom …they aren’t tanking on the season just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 This trade reminded me of the Kris Russell trade. Get a guy with a name that's tough to spell. Get a 2nd. We ended up with a player in that deal (Brett Pollock former 2nd rounder) that never did anything. So the equivalent of two 2nds. Though the pick was conditional on reaching conference final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, rickross said: Nice trade for Tanev, he’s a warrior but the guys turning 35 and a UFA so glad we got some futures and a prospect for him. I trust Conroy enough to know he’s not getting fleeced, he’s carefully weighing these offers and returns. Hanifin will be an interesting one, he’s getting us back another 1st rounder at the very least, I don’t think the Flames move Markstrom …they aren’t tanking on the season just yet Markstrom without Tanev. Reminds me of the 2nd round of the playoffs. If you trade your best defensive defenseman, are you not tanking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 15 minutes ago, travel_dude said: Markstrom without Tanev. Reminds me of the 2nd round of the playoffs. If you trade your best defensive defenseman, are you not tanking? We traded a pending UFA instead of losing him for nothing..that's called asset management... Trading Anderson for picks .. that would be tanking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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