conundrumed Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, The_People1 said: It's too bad the best we can do is 6th. There's 4 studs in this draft and Michkov might drop one to 5th. At 6th, we get the first pick of that next cliff. Well we're 16th, so I wouldn't complain about 6th for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, The_People1 said: It's too bad the best we can do is 6th. There's 4 studs in this draft and Michkov might drop one to 5th. At 6th, we get the first pick of that next cliff. I suspect it's a moot point, but we did get Chucky at 6. I think that we all thought we were getting Nylander. If that draft happened again, I'd give you a 86% odds that he would go second. Two years before that, we got Bennett at 4, and that seemed like he fell to us. Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, conundrumed said: Handedness means little. Would you pick Lindholm over Barkov due to handedness? For faceoffs, it matters. Want the strong hand to pull the puck back into the corner or the side boards. Don't want your Center to shoot the puck at your own net or clear the zone in the offensive zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 I think if Michkov falls at all it wont' be skill it will be contract. He's under contract with SKA until 2026. So your taking someone in the top 10, maybe top 5, who you likely won't see for at least 3 years AND then you have to be very confident you can get him to pass on KHL money to come to North America and make 3 mill a year. That's going to be your debate when it comes to Michkov IMO. I don't know enough to have an opinion but any NHL team with interest has to have confidence with his contract situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, conundrumed said: Handedness means little. Would you pick Lindholm over Barkov due to handedness? Yup +1. One of the more silly debates that still seems to need to be a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Heartbreaker said: I suspect it's a moot point, but we did get Chucky at 6. I think that we all thought we were getting Nylander. If that draft happened again, I'd give you a 86% odds that he would go second. Two years before that, we got Bennett at 4, and that seemed like he fell to us. Love. Nah the gap from Tkachuk to Nylander was massive. Nylander was the next tier. But between Bennett, Reinhart, and Draisaitl, the gap negligible. Reinhart went first because of RHS C/RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, cross16 said: Yup +1. One of the more silly debates that still seems to need to be a thing. Except Barkov to Lindholm is a huge gap. What about Lindholm or Taylor Hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Except Barkov to Lindholm is a huge gap. What about Lindholm or Taylor Hall? Barkov was 2oa, Lindholm 5th in the same draft. If you're making handedness a component...well, oops. Still a solid C mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Otown72 said: So if by a miracle the Flames move up to 6th. Who do you hope to see the Flames pick? 1 and 2 are definitely gone. In about 4 hrs this will be a redundant😜 Mitchkov would be mine. Worth the wait and potential risk if he is available. Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, Carlsson, Smith....I'd have to go Barlow. I just think he's the best goalscorer available that doesn't have anything serious for red flags in abilities/doesn't cheat D to pump stats. Just my opinion. I want a bonafide goal scorer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, conundrumed said: Barkov was 2oa, Lindholm 5th in the same draft. If you're making handedness a component...well, oops. Still a solid C mind you. It was MacKinnon/Jones ranked 1/2. Barkov was right there at 3rd. Big gap to the next tier. A better comparison is Lindholm vs Monahan in the same draft year. Lindholm went 5th and Monahan 6th. So close to rank those two from each other. Right now, is there a clear difference between Barlow, Yager, Perreault, Danielson, and Wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, The_People1 said: It's too bad the best we can do is 6th. There's 4 studs in this draft and Michkov might drop one to 5th. At 6th, we get the first pick of that next cliff. Lottery win in the bag man 😅 The trick is to strike a new arena deal ahead of each draft and then cancel it after the draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, The_People1 said: It was MacKinnon/Jones ranked 1/2. Barkov was right there at 3rd. Big gap to the next tier. A better comparison is Lindholm vs Monahan in the same draft year. Lindholm went 5th and Monahan 6th. So close to rank those two from each other. Right now, is there a clear difference between Barlow, Yager, Perreault, Danielson, and Wood? Depends what you value. Me wanting a goalscorer at 6 so Barlow has the most complete toolbox/physicality for that, while still being good defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 Who do you want to get Bedard? I want Arizona (if not Detroit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, conundrumed said: Who do you want to get Bedard? I want Arizona (if not Detroit). Habs. Keep him out east. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, flames-fan-in-jets-land said: Habs. Keep him out east. Agreed. How many heroic Connors can one conference handle? Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otown72 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, conundrumed said: Who do you want to get Bedard? I want Arizona (if not Detroit). Flyers. Just cuz. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 I want ARI just to keep driving this point into the NHL office. "There's your big marketing score, playing for 5,000". But I'd also like to see Keller get loaded up. He's so underrated. Him, Bedard, Cooley, Maccelli, Guenther, Aku Raty would be fun to watch. And the Ritchie brothers of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 It feels to me like Chicago will win the lotto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: It feels to me like Chicago will win the lotto People would scream rigged lottery. Chicago is the biggest hockey market down at the bottom there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 hours ago, The_People1 said: For faceoffs, it matters. Want the strong hand to pull the puck back into the corner or the side boards. Don't want your Center to shoot the puck at your own net or clear the zone in the offensive zone. You can have your cake and eat it too, if a strong D falls to you. They often do because of GM expiry dates. I'm quite sure Arizona at least would love to see us drafting another talented D in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 Here we go guys. Lottery reveal. Best of luck to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, jjgallow said: You can have your cake and eat it too, if a strong D falls to you. They often do because of GM expiry dates. I'm quite sure Arizona at least would love to see us drafting another talented D in the first round. I would be ecstatic if one of Reinbacker or Sandin-Pellikka drops to us. We really need a RD in the prospect pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 Official. Flames draft 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: It feels to me like Chicago will win the lotto Oops 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otown72 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Thebrewcrew said: Oops Atleast bedard wont be in the pacific division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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