The_People1 Posted May 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, JTech780 said: Can teams go over the cap in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 There is no salary cap in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarasti Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 So 28 skaters: Forwards: Johnny, Monahan, Lindholm, Backlund, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Dube, Ryan, Lucic, Bennett, Jankowski, Rinaldo, Rieder. Defense: Giordano, Brodie, Andersson, Hanifin, Hamonic, Gustafsson, Forbort, Kylington, Stone. (The app also lists Yelesin and Valimaki as part of the active roster) Goalies: Rittich, Talbot This leaves 4 spots open for the aces and potentially 2 tenders on top of that if the Flames so choose. Assuming they wouldn't have a need for any more defenseman it will be 4 extra forwards on the roster. I'm thinking Quine, Czarnik, Robinson, and Gawdin most likely with outside chance Phillips gets the call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, JTech780 said: There is no salary cap in the playoffs. Advantage to teams who added at the TDL thinking they lost guys to IR for rest of season. Now all players are healthy and they get the player they added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 TOR is putting their 2019 2nd rounder Nick Robertson on their roster. I hope Pelletier is part of the roster for the Flames, get him around the team, it's better than him having 7 months of no game action. I also think he could be an option on the 4th line LW. Rieder likely gets that spot but if he isn't killing penalties he does nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, cross16 said: Why does it have to take that long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 18 hours ago, The_People1 said: Why does it have to take that long? Phase two involves limited training groups. Something like 6. As well, any player coming from abroad has to observe the 14 day isolation. At least as of today. That's June 14 for many players coming to Canada. NHL is being overly cautious but a lot of the delays are the NHLPA wanting the league to take it slow. It gives the isolated players a full 30+ days to get up to speed. If they eliminated the 14 day thing, they might be able to push it back to July 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 19 hours ago, The_People1 said: Why does it have to take that long? Too much uncertainty to really do it any quicker. NHL believes they are still 3-4 weeks away from being able to pick their hub cities, you need restrictions and the spread of COVID to limit in certain places, then you need the players to come back with isolation likely required, then you need them to slowly integrate back together to limit a 2nd wave etc etc. Then through all of that you need a contingency in place for what happens if a team does get infected or a case. Stack is all up and even the middle of July seems early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, cross16 said: Too much uncertainty to really do it any quicker. NHL believes they are still 3-4 weeks away from being able to pick their hub cities, you need restrictions and the spread of COVID to limit in certain places, then you need the players to come back with isolation likely required, then you need them to slowly integrate back together to limit a 2nd wave etc etc. Then through all of that you need a contingency in place for what happens if a team does get infected or a case. Stack is all up and even the middle of July seems early. Not only that, how are they all travelling to hub cities... Hence, the isolation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 The other obstacle will be to make sure testing is available in each hub city to make sure all players, team staff, officials and anyone else in contact can be tested twice a week. We are talking 1,200 tests in the first week for just the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Friedman made an interesting point today, he said depending on what happens with the borders, Canadian teams are considering doing their training camps somewhere in the States, so players won't have to go through a 14 day quarantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: Friedman made an interesting point today, he said depending on what happens with the borders, Canadian teams are considering doing their training camps somewhere in the States, so players won't have to go through a 14 day quarantine That sounds dangerous. I get why some are upset about putting careers on the line, but not really too, as they get paid what grocery clerks would have to work 50 years to make. But at the same time, if covid attacks the lungs too much then they're Blockchained! I guess if they get it through playing, they could get some of their insurance? I wonder how that works for these players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 6 hours ago, robrob74 said: That sounds dangerous. I get why some are upset about putting careers on the line, but not really too, as they get paid what grocery clerks would have to work 50 years to make. But at the same time, if covid attacks the lungs too much then they're Blockchained! I guess if they get it through playing, they could get some of their insurance? I wonder how that works for these players? Friedman's point was the players would tested immediately after arrival and then put into and left in the bubble for the remainder of the hockey season. Realistically it's not that practical, people just have a lot of time to think these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 23 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said: Friedman made an interesting point today, he said depending on what happens with the borders, Canadian teams are considering doing their training camps somewhere in the States, so players won't have to go through a 14 day quarantine Well that's fine as long as that team plays in a US site. If they play in Canada, they would all have to isolate when they came back. Unless Baby PET relents, we will be stuck with the 14 day quarantine. And that effectively eliminates Canada from hosting. If there is one West and one East city chosen, then Canada is likely out of the runnung. It's almost a certainty that Vegas is the West host city. There's just so many reasons for it. Media availability (and lodging), hotels up the ying yang, catering availability.... I doubt they pick two cities in the West. EDM does have reliable testing and a reasonable amount of lodging. VAN is similar in lodgings. Cities in the East. CHI is probably the front runner. NY is just plain scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 There's chatter that if Vegas is a hub that other teams don't want Vegas to be playing in Vegas, I don't get that complaint as VGK would have to be in hotels too. By that logic you have to play the West in an East city, or play in LA as they aren't participating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said: There's chatter that if Vegas is a hub that other teams don't want Vegas to be playing in Vegas, I don't get that complaint as VGK would have to be in hotels too. By that logic you have to play the West in an East city, or play in LA as they aren't participating. So like, only choose from the cities that didn't make the playoffs? Only Anaheim, LA, and San Jose... all high covid19 places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Why does it matter to have a hub city in the east and west? There’s no fan attendance anyway. Pick the 2 spots that can facilitate all the teams and give the highest percentage of protection from another stoppage. In fact, if there are going to be multiple games per day in only 2 arenas, it may make sense to have the 2 hubs closer to the west so that players aren’t starting games too late in their respective timezones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, lou44291 said: Why does it matter to have a hub city in the east and west? There’s no fan attendance anyway. Pick the 2 spots that can facilitate all the teams and give the highest percentage of protection from another stoppage. In fact, if there are going to be multiple games per day in only 2 arenas, it may make sense to have the 2 hubs closer to the west so that players aren’t starting games too late in their respective timezones. I don't understand the complaint. Not like Vegas is gonna be allowed to sleep in their own beds, they'll be in the bubble like every other club. If anything it's a disadvantage, knowing you are only a few miles away from your family, but can't see them would be tougher, than being a 3 hour flight from home IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, lou44291 said: Why does it matter to have a hub city in the east and west? There’s no fan attendance anyway. Pick the 2 spots that can facilitate all the teams and give the highest percentage of protection from another stoppage. In fact, if there are going to be multiple games per day in only 2 arenas, it may make sense to have the 2 hubs closer to the west so that players aren’t starting games too late in their respective timezones. 1 hour ago, Thebrewcrew said: I don't understand the complaint. Not like Vegas is gonna be allowed to sleep in their own beds, they'll be in the bubble like every other club. If anything it's a disadvantage, knowing you are only a few miles away from your family, but can't see them would be tougher, than being a 3 hour flight from home IMO Exactly. I was under the impression no fans are allowed. Advantage to have own locker room? They know all the bounces off the boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 16 hours ago, lou44291 said: Why does it matter to have a hub city in the east and west? There’s no fan attendance anyway. Pick the 2 spots that can facilitate all the teams and give the highest percentage of protection from another stoppage. In fact, if there are going to be multiple games per day in only 2 arenas, it may make sense to have the 2 hubs closer to the west so that players aren’t starting games too late in their respective timezones. The only reason it matters is that you spread the wealth. If both cities were west USA, it would look like only part of the country was being given a financial stimulus. The other reason is a bit weird. You play in the mountain time zone, and to allow the East the ability to see the game, they would need to start at 5pm. That's a mental thing to overcome, as players have to adjust their entire day to fit it. Morning skates and practices have to fit in the window leading up to it. Meals have to fit around it. It sounds laughable, but players would need to adjust their body clocks to fit. I'm ruling out EDM because of the lack of hotel rooms. Everything else about the city might be perfect, but I don't think they have the hotel facilities. We are talking 600 rooms for 12 teams total. And workout facilities able to handle the needs. Vegas does. Toronto does. Some of the other Easten cities do, with their convention centres etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 A good discussion of the hib cities and playoff format. https://oilersnation.com/2020/06/02/bill-daly-outlines-nhl-playoff-format/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 Sportsbooks monitored by OddsShark have the Flames as favorites in the best-of-five series against the Jets... https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-western-conference-series-odds-canadian-matchup-tap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Carty said: Sportsbooks monitored by OddsShark have the Flames as favorites in the best-of-five series against the Jets... https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-western-conference-series-odds-canadian-matchup-tap/ THat's a death sentence for the Flames group. I think they prefer to prove people wrong, and are worse when they believe their own hype. Although, the Jets are very close. The thing about these playoffs is, almost no team has any excuses, most should be coming in healthy, aside from players who were putting off surgery to fix ailments in the offseason... I hope it plays out the way they see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Carty said: Sportsbooks monitored by OddsShark have the Flames as favorites in the best-of-five series against the Jets... https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-western-conference-series-odds-canadian-matchup-tap/ It's a coin toss to be honest. Both teams so even. Though, I feel smaller players adjust and regain game shape faster. Flames are the smaller team so advantage to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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