travel_dude Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 So, it's SCF or bust with the present group. Didn't address the goaltending issues. May not be necessary, but..... No depth scoring added. No center depth added. One good trade for a depth/replacement top 4 LD/RD. Pretty underwhelming, then again BT never knocks TDL out of the park. He works better in the summer when the pressure is less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosn111 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Del Zotto to St lou it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, JTech780 said: Love Zucker's speed. His speed is game changing. No Zucker for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, travel_dude said: No Zucker for us. Went somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, robrob74 said: Went somewhere else? I think BT ran out of time most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosn111 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Simmonds to Preds, Johansson to Bruins, apparently still a jets announcement coming so Flames still a possible announcement too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 there is still trades in quene so the trade could be done just not announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, bosn111 said: Simmonds to Preds, Johansson to Bruins, apparently still a jets announcement coming so Flames still a possible announcement too. Multiple Flames sources on twitter have said they are done for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robrob74 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, JTech780 said: Ouch! Well, I guess the prices just weren’t what the Flames wanted to pay. it has been kind of how he’s done his job in the past, BT will trade for players in an age range that will allow players to possibly be productive and here for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Nashville overpaid for Simmonds. Hartman and a conditional 4th. I like Hartman. Del Zotto for a 6th. Wish that was closer to what we paid for Fantenberg, but I am not upset by any stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I liked Johansson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, robrob74 said: Ouch! Well, I guess the prices just weren’t what the Flames wanted to pay. it has been kind of how he’s done his job in the past, BT will trade for players in an age range that will allow players to possibly be productive and here for awhile. Would have been tough to do, without moving salary. I think maybe he will try again in June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Valimaki for Stone was a no starter for me but seeing Stone extended for 8 years at 9.5-mil-per changes things a lot. I think that's more than fair for Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Valimaki for Stone was a no starter for me but seeing Stone extended for 8 years at 9.5-mil-per changes things a lot. I think that's more than fair for Stone. To rich for BT's style. I bet this was the walk away factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Valimaki for Stone was a no starter for me but seeing Stone extended for 8 years at 9.5-mil-per changes things a lot. I think that's more than fair for Stone. Considering the price paid for him and the re-up cost, we missed out big time. As it stands, we will probably lose one of Kylington, Valimaki or Ras, depending on who gets protected in the draft. To put it in context, we gave up more for Hamonic and Hamilton each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Brannstrom is a Valimaki level prospect. so to equal that trade you are probably putting him or Andersson in the deal. Should be a non starter. Also I don't think the Flames would have been able to get Stone signed for over 9 million unless they dealt Neal which IMO isn't going to happen. So while first reaction is they missed out, I think unfortunately it just didn't not fit both in terms of salary and acquisition cost. It wasn't going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Well the TDL is DONE. It seems like every one wants to cuddle and talk.!! Me I just want to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Emphasis on winning the division now. That ensures one of SJ or VGK will be kicking rocks in mid April. Let them beat the tar out of one another. Will gladly take Minnesota or Colorado in round one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, cross16 said: Brannstrom is a Valamaki level prospect. so to equal that trade you are probably putting him or Andersson in the deal. Should be a non starter. Also I don't think the Flames would have been able to get Stone signed for over 9 million unless they dealt Neal which IMO isn't going to happen. So while first reaction is they missed out, I think unfortunately it just didn't not fit both in terms of salary and acquisition cost. It wasn't going to work. If the salary was the sticking point for BT, then so be it. I trust BT for negotiating contracts, just not so much in trades. But, lets face it. Tkachuk is not going to be cheap like Gaudreau. Where I am a little miffed is no view to next season in nets. We may have the rest of the year with two guys that can get the job done. Nest year, back in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fins&FIre15 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Awesome. Can't remember the last time we were a buyer, but its cool. Our unknown late 1st rounder is guaranteed to be better than anyone we could have acquired today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I am fine with Tree not giving Peters any more chemicals to play with. I think our chemistry is fine without adding an unknown catalyst into the mix. We will see what we have in the homestretch & the playoffs. A place in the Finals or hoisting a Cup will validate the lack of moves today. Don't think it couldn't happen just because of today. Anything else will show what kind of off-season tinkering we will need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu11 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pyromancer said: I am fine with Tree not giving Peters any more chemicals to play with. I think our chemistry is fine without adding an unknown catalyst into the mix. We will see what we have in the homestretch & the playoffs. A place in the Finals or hoisting a Cup will validate the lack of moves today. Don't think it couldn't happen just because of today. Anything else will show what kind of off-season tinkering we will need to do. Personally I think reaching the conference final will be an improvement and something I would be satisfied with. Of course I 'm certainly not against beeing in the final or winning the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, travel_dude said: If the salary was the sticking point for BT, then so be it. I trust BT for negotiating contracts, just not so much in trades. But, lets face it. Tkachuk is not going to be cheap like Gaudreau. Where I am a little miffed is no view to next season in nets. We may have the rest of the year with two guys that can get the job done. Nest year, back in the same boat. I would have my eye on Mrazek as a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I get the frustration, but looking through the list i'm not sure where the Flames went wrong. The only deal I liked that I wish the Flames had made is Hayes and maybe Brassard. But at the same time I can acknowledge the price was high on Hayes (still would have paid it) and Brassard is arguably not an upgrade so it makes sense. I'm just not seeing deals they missed on then or should have been on. Prices were high on areas that could have made a difference, and I think in many cases the options (like Johansson for example) are not exactly upgrades on what they have so what is the point of giving away picks for guys that may not play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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