robrob1974 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 A conditional 3rd rounder added to the Elliotte deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amander Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 It's not just a 35th pick, It's also a conditional 3rd in 2018 according to Friedman@@FriedgeHNIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 A re-signing condition? Or make the playoffs 3rd? Or if we beat them in the season series 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu11 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 It's not just a 35th pick, It's also a conditional 3rd in 2018 according to Friedman @@FriedgeHNIC Doesn't make it worse! I like that it's a 2018 pick as we have two 4th round picks in that draft from the Hudler trade if I remember correctly. The condition is met, if we re-sign Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Ya! No issues with this at all.. We'll find out in a year what it takes to resign him..likely not going to be 7x7 And a great mentor for whoever is next Excellent draft so far:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKappa Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 GeneralFanager says condition on Elliot Re-signing before current contract expires. Which kinda begs the question, if we only get him for 1 year, do we still make a play at either Bishop or Fleury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 GeneralFanager says condition on Elliot Re-signing before current contract expires. Which kinda begs the question, if we only get him for 1 year, do we still make a play at either Bishop or Fleury? I think that's another aspect that makes this trade great. If Elliot is good but not quite what they want they still have options and really arnt out that much. I do think they want him long term but that's not a bad fall back plan of it got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 GeneralFanager says condition on Elliot Re-signing before current contract expires. Which kinda begs the question, if we only get him for 1 year, do we still make a play at either Bishop or Fleury? This is can't lose..only a 2.5 cap hit, all options remain open going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymo Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I think that's another aspect that makes this trade great. If Elliot is good but not quite what they want they still have options and really arnt out that much. I do think they want him long term but that's not a bad fall back plan of it got there. With the Elliott acquisition there is no immediate need for another goalie, and with his cap hit we are solving another problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Elliot wasn't my top choice but given how inexpensive this was to get him, this is a win. At 31, that's a goalie's prime age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTC-FLAMES-EDITION Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Perfect situation. Doesn't tie us into anything after this season and no impact on our cap moving forward. If he proves he's a #1 then we extend him. This night has turned out so great for our team it's amazing. GFG!!! Almost feels like the Bennett draft when we stole him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 This is a great fit for Calgary. The cost to acquire was fairly low, his salary is Cap friendly, and his stats have been quite good the last 3 seasons. Montoya or Hutton might make a good backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 That and if he re-signs he solves a long term need if he doesnt next year we can grab any body we want with the expansion draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu11 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 This is a great fit for Calgary. The cost to acquire was fairly low, his salary is Cap friendly, and his stats have been quite good the last 3 seasons. Montoya or Hutton might make a good backup. I'd prefer a guy like Jonas Enroth, who played a few 40+ games seasons. ups got that wrong, only had one 40game season, but still prefer him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Thing is manu none of that is out of the picture cause next year with expansion draft teams are pressured alot more then they are right now so calgary can position them self better if this doesnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu11 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Thing is manu none of that is out of the picture cause next year with expansion draft teams are pressured alot more then they are right now so calgary can position them self better if this doesnt work my bad, I was actually refering to a potential backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 They may use ortio as backup no one knows what were doing there yet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 50/30 could be a good ratio seeing as how Ortio needs starts. Maybe they'd even try Ramo, but Elliotte is better and Ramo would need to sign at about 2.5 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 The best thing I can say about the Elliot trade (and the Tkachuk pick) is it feels right. You can discuss these things to death before they happen, but some just seem to fit. I do winder is this is the end of Ortio though. Elliot hasn't carried a heavy workload so the Flames may go out and get someone they are more comfortable playing 30 games or so. I don't know if they trust Ortio that much. I wouldn't be surprised to see us pick up someone like Kuemper tomorrow or tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Or Reimer as a FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTC-FLAMES-EDITION Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Very interesting to see what happens with Ortio. Personally I feel give him a one year deal to be backup and if neither he nor Elliott play well next year then you go after a Fleury or another goalie and protect them from the expansion draft and let Elliott and Ortio go. Pretty smart plan I believe. Will the haters give credit to Burke for this or is this Treliving's doing? Lol. I wanted Reimer for one year but this is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 When the flames made the Hamilton trade last year there was a small bit of buyers remorse when Matt Barzal fell to 15. Nice thing for me this year is that isn't happening. While there will be some decent prospects there at 35 no one that would have been a slam dunk it is falling. I don't think the flame will regret moving they pick at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 With the Elliott acquisition there is no immediate need for another goalie, and with his cap hit we are solving another problem. Yes there is. We need 1 of the best backups available. He usually starts less than 50 % of the games so we might need a 1A/1B situation where the other 1/2 is proven as well (that means Ortio doesn't fit the bill). But his cap hit allows us to sign/trade for a former starter to carry the rest of the load. His heaviest load was 48 games & his #s dropped. If you have a starter capable of 50ish or more games without burning out all you need is a trustworthy backup. But when the backup plays 1/2 the games the starter is that in name only. This might be the spot we tell Reimer that #1 is his if he earns it but we won't pay him more than the 2.5 x 1 to keep the ice equal. The 1 that does best gets a bigger contract as undisputed #1 & the other might/might not be re-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Has Elliotte played less games due to not being able to handle it, or has it been due perception? Or is it all part of it? Yes there is. We need 1 of the best backups available. He usually starts less than 50 % of the games so we might need a 1A/1B situation where the other 1/2 is proven as well (that means Ortio doesn't fit the bill). But his cap hit allows us to sign/trade for a former starter to carry the rest of the load. His heaviest load was 48 games & his #s dropped. If you have a starter capable of 50ish or more games without burning out all you need is a trustworthy backup. But when the backup plays 1/2 the games the starter is that in name only. This might be the spot we tell Reimer that #1 is his if he earns it but we won't pay him more than the 2.5 x 1 to keep the ice equal. The 1 that does best gets a bigger contract as undisputed #1 & the other might/might not be re-signed. I see Elliotte as having something to prove and he always has had to. Maybe he can handle a starter's load? He is one of the hardest working guys in the biz, you'd think he would have the cardio for it, but would he have the mentality to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Has Elliotte played less games due to not being able to handle it, or has it been due perception? Or is it all part of it? I see Elliotte as having something to prove and he always has had to. Maybe he can handle a starter's load? He is one of the hardest working guys in the biz, you'd think he would have the cardio for it, but would he have the mentality to? Could probably get Reimer for a decent contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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