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Need some cowbell to wake everyone up?

for me it's like playing poker, would the Flames want to play that hand so soon, to let everyone know they want or don't want to draft someone? For me it's a closer to the draft thing. I just hope we don't go reaching. I feel Honzek was a touch a reach... but not much. Not the player.

i think if jersey stays out of the top 10 and is drafting 10-12 it could be a Markstrom for their first. The idea is that before the deadline Holtz was included based on the chance the pick would have been around 20 or later. it depends on the market. Typically rentals cost more at TDL but then draft picks cost more at the draft because of potential and value of having ELC in a roster in a few years when teams will contend... teams are willing to gamble for a chance at a cup at the deadline.

can we do a Markstrom and Andersson with salary retained? Then their 1st and Holtz or something like that? I have this eerie feeling we dropped the ball on not trading Markstrom at the deadline. It's going to cost us more if we wanna trade, or it turns into same deal but the 2025 first? Silly not to trade Markstrom when it could have given the devils 3 runs possibly instead of 2, since they probably felt he was the missing link when they were close enough to sniff the playoffs.

i think trading up in drafts works when it's 2-3 spots difference. The team trading down has to see value in the lower spot and gain another pick for it, like the Flames did with situations like Zary, etc. sometimes teams might trade a pick completely with no other firsts in return... so I see us being able to maybe trade our 9-11 to move up 6-8 using a 2nd rounder. I don't see a team trading out of their spot at 5 and getting the Canucks pick unless we are trading Andersson or Weegar. If Jersey wants Marky, maybe they'd do Marky and the Canucks pick for theirs. In that scenario I think they don't add Holtz.

Coming close to winning the cup, as close as a player can without winning it, Conroy might have an idea on the kind of team that wins it. Granted he's coming out of an era but has learnt to GM in the current one. But I'm hoping he has a vision of how to, and starting with needing (an) elite Defender(s). id say you need one elite D and an elite C. Of course a real 2nd line C and so on, but I think building a team with cap is filling those spots wisely with proper cost allotments in every position.

We can be high on them and know exactly what they are. We know they're not elite top pair. They're the compliments to the elite a team needs. If you can get that trading them, then you do it. its too bad we couldn't get Byram? I dunno if he was going to be elite, but he would have been a good start.

If building net out, I think D is the way to go. Defending, I think, is just as important as G. If team D sucks, we see how a goalie with good numbers in Elliott goes to a Flames team and the D is different and see the results. While he was ok, he wasn't the same goalie, which I'd say is due to team D, which the need is in having elite top2D... Elite C is just as important, but if that isn't in this draft, go for what is.

yup, lists are so arbitrary. All teams have their own lists, which is why you get Jankowski drafts. The Flames had him on their list. Dunno if that's Flames scouts or the ASSistant. GM at the time.

no one was saying it's a controversy. Was simply pointing out that he felt there was a better chance to play with the Flames. he said so himself, that he felt that way, and he also said he thought it would be cool to be a part of the trade...

could you go: 1-5 6-15? surely the top 1-3 tend to be in their own class then 4-5, then 6-8, then 9-15 really. I talk out of my Hash Rate, But like to think a top 3 pick is better than a 5-10... etc i get what you're saying though.

he actually said it himself! https://www.canucksdaily.com/nhl-team/vancouver-canucks/major-top-prospect-hunter-brzustewicz-reveals-why-he-did-not-want-to-sign-in-vancouver

there was a rumour he wasn't going to sign with the Canucks because he didn't see a clear path.

The reason Brzustewicz was happy to be traded was chance at playing. He was blocked by Hughes. Not saying he's looks be as good but, how far away is he from playing? Is it 2-3 more seasons or 1-2?

isn't the Flames' first in 2025 theirs or Montreal's? Could be the Panther's pick going to Montreal instead?

Wow! He was only two years older than me! Sad to see this!!! he was a huge add on the 04 run.

Lindholm was checked out before the season even started.

thing is, he probably didn't fumble the Markstrom trade and for whatever reason, I still think it's an ownership thing, it got shut down. They probably didn't see the flames being able to compete without him and were like wait a minute, we can't do this thing. which to many here who said Wolf should have been up this year, that might have been the reason wolf should have been, to give him time with Marky and I just don't see Vladar as a future option. But I agree, the organization botched Markstrom deal and probably don't get the return in the summer.

thing about drafting ahead of St. Louis is, know what they're gonna draft. We could draft ahead of them all the time, and still pick Jankowski and sacrifice Vasileski for a chance at the D we took in the second round.

I guess Flames fans weren't happy about how Hanifin "hijacked" the Flames in the trade. Apparently the crowd Booed him. Thing is, he's had nothing but nice things to say about Calgary and the fans. was booing him warranted? He just said he'd probably only want to play for a team he'd sign with; i get being upset by his process, but i never felt he was malicious about it. he was honest. Tkachuk probably deserved more boos than Hanifin. Although, it's Johnny of the most recents who deserve it the most, along with Fox... I do wonder though. They're all human and have personal needs. Although they do have millions of reasons to suck it up... also, their age, they don't see life the same as someone who is at the end of their career, or retired and how much adulthood they have left after the sport has passed them by, so I can see how a young person can feel a need to be in certain places.

although, Stillman was traded just after that for Craig Conroy. That would have been a fairly good top 6 too.... maybe a cup winner, much like the one '04 was

If anyone thinks next years draft is better, its possible they'd want us to add for it...

Flames are hard to read. They get up for tougher teams because they know they have to try. For the lower teams they take them for granted. I don't think we can have a good read on what they'll do. At this stage, I see them drafting between 8-10. Our D just isn't good without Hanifin and Tanev. Weegar and Andersson are a different breed but just not the kind of defensive that thrives against top lines.

If the Flames drop in standings, I only think they can drop as far down as 8th overall. I dunno, a 7 point drop to where Montreal is can be doable, but I can only see them getting to where the Pens are. It's not that big of a drop, but I do think they can give Montreal a run for their money. It really depends on where Markstrom is with his injury and if he's out long. Although, not having Hanifin and Tanev really point to the need of having a real shut down D pair for the tougher teams, especially on the road.

We've already moved down to 12 and that could easily be 11 as tied with STL. We are only a point above Devils. Maybe we will be drafting @ 9.