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58 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
Or Pat Brisson doing Pat Brisson things?
Maybe Conny demanded Brissons kid In the real and he's having a tantrum lol
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Just now, The_People1 said:
But what is LTIR? 3-games missed?
Long term .I believe as to be a minimum time out
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Can't tell me this is just sheer coincidence 😂😂
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Just now, cross16 said:
IR does not provide cap relief.I'll be the first to admit did not know that
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2 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
Like this one (if true):
Noah Hanifin trade details: #VegasBorn receive: Noah Hanifin (50% retained) #Flames receive: Nicolas Hague, David Edstrom, 2024 1st, 2025 conditional pick (either 3rd or 4th)
If true.. under the circumstances. That is amazing
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He's not wrong 😂😂😂
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Just now, travel_dude said:
Dreger says deal not worked out completely.
Which is odd that it's reported as done.
The M-NTC does play a part in filing, but unless he blocked Vegas, should be a non-issue.
you got trade calls.. official sign off .. etc .. unless somebody leaks a detail , only source is NHL office
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Just now, MP5029 said:
Yup 100% that’s how they do
Not a fan of how VGK does business overall, but Kelly is a smart boy.. hard not to respect it
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Just now, The_People1 said:
Typical VGK style, IR half the team to get ready for the playoffs...
that too
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Typical VGK style though.. let everybody duke it out .. then just come in last minute and beat it
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11 minutes ago, MP5029 said:
Agreed Brisson not
worth it, Edstrom would be..and Hague would fill a need now too…
no , but just including would be the biggest FU to the agent Conny could do haha.. id take Mantha at another 50% retained too
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3 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
only a 2nd??
Just remember.. TB FLA and BOS had nothing to give.. VGK only had to beat them.. the bar is pretty low
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7 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
Oh interesting. I didn't know. Cap space cleared!
How nice of Alec to get injured on the very day they needed the space .. what were the odds ? haha
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1 minute ago, travel_dude said:
Deal is done. Not sure what it includes, but 1st believed to be part.
just keep saying .. "it was the best offer .. it was the best offer ...." lol
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2 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
Interesting. VGK has all their 1st round picks for next 3 years. They draft well. Would make for a better trade partner than TB I would think.
and Gee.. Alec Martinez just happened to go on IR today.. how Convenient LOL
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6 minutes ago, cross16 said:
If you want to really go there, are the Flames the ones leaking the Tampa interest because who they want to trade with needs up their price...
not impossible -- if I were Craig I'd be playing TB off Boston .. off Fla.. etc.. all Atlantic teams
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13 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
Another guys says they have an contract offer in their back pocket because they don't like the offers so far. I don't see how that would benefit the Flames to leak it. If he hasn't signed he ain't signing.
Just playing devils advocate for fun.. not saying this is the case.. but to leak what he left on the table makes the Flames look like the victim when he is ultimately traded for a lower than expected return.. much like everybody knew what Johnny left on the table.. that was no accident
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40 minutes ago, cross16 said:
I think the chances of Coleman being moved are extremely slim. I can't say that definitively of course but I don't expect him to be moved.
I think the team loves him, sees him as a key part of what they are doing, and by all accounts he loves it here.
I don't think Mang is in the same boat.
Hes the one under the radar player I can see moving.. I'd bet money either way he doesnt start next season
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22 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
Newest rumour (from a guy with 3500 followers) is that the Flames have a contract offer to Hanifin in the upper $8M range in case they don't like the offers for him. Like What the AF? Won't sign long term at mid 7's. Messes with trades to teams not on his 8 team list. Craters his own trade value and we are wanting to pay him more?
Get creative before you even think about signing him at almost Nurse money.
Not gonna lie.. I want to see this happen .. JUST to see social media and everywhere else lose their ever loving freaking minds ..LOL
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28 minutes ago, cross16 said:
Huh. I must have missed the 25 year old 60 point center the flames had to deal for him.
I love this.. lol.. people hear "we turned down a first",,and dont take all the other factor into acct
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6 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
If Lindholm is traded, what happens to the conditional 3rd?
Those conditions exist only while playing in VAN.
VAN makes the 3rd round.
Lindholm plays 50% of the games in the playoffs.
I don't think they could substitute them on a new team if he is traded.
i didnt see the games played condition , just the wcf condition .. that would be the kicker.. if its games played It wont transfer
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41 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
No I think that's overrating Hanifin. Yes he is having a career year but is not a stud #1 D. He's shown he's a 2/3 on a good team.
Lindholm has shown to be Selke material. RHS C, etc. There was more value Lindholm than Hanifin.
again we all have our local biases Good or bad .. Outside of Calgary , the opinion of him quite high.. Most common description has been "star/ elite Top 4 Dman"..... may not be everybody's opinion but that's the common I've seen and heard
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16 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
Wow Hanifin should get better than Lindholm? I was expecting a 1st + mid-prospect + fringe NHLer. What were you expecting for Hanifin?
I know every fanbase over and undervalues their own players , but the unbias view of it is hes still a relatively young , in his prime Dman.. 1st/ 2nd pair at worst .. can play all situations ... Really his only knock for value is hes a LS.. if he were RS it would thru the roof
compared to Lindy, Id expect a higher prospect .. a 1st and 2nd or 3rd ( no conditions) and a roster player with less question marks ( maybe younger , more known ) ..
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19 minutes ago, cross16 said:
Yes solid, not great, solid.
Not sure why but there is a lot of word twisting going on in this thread.
Too much social media .. people can't separate the hack rumors from logic ..
One that has some believability and would be funny is Canucks are already shopping Lindholm lol.. Connie for the win if that happens ..
Funniest part if they do? They make the WCF they still lose the 3rd rounder 😂😂
Realistic (and unrealistic) Trades - 2024 Edition
in Flames Talk
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Ya I'm not overly concerned ..retention deals are tricky..essentially 3 trades have to be made ..have to receive value to retain.. the main was leaked .. still working on th final.. just takes time
But gotta love the optics..
Conny makes almost every WC contender better ..except Edmonton..
Pulls the rug from Tampa .. .Friedman said today tb did have the extension in the drawer so that mist have truth to it ..
Iggy and Conroy on their own little revenge tour here 😂😂