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I think it's honestly as simple as Duehr played over his head last year. That level of scoring he hasn't done at any level so it was a real shock to see him do it at the NHL level. So then your left with a player who need to bring it 100% every single night to be effective and that's really tough to maintain. I don't think we should be that surprised by this move and I don't think fault needs to be found. I'll be very surprised if he is claimed. Pretty much all clubs have multiple players like Duehr in their system.

Not really. They could have someone up from the A pretty quick if they needed someone. I agree they likely won't want to run with 12 for long though. Why not send down a D? They can't. Gilbert is heading to IR (and is hurt) so they are running at 6. Kylington's LTIR conditioning loan "should" be coming to an end soon but could be flipped to a regular conditioning loan but that would require him to go on the active roster. That would be where this move could be related to Kylington. But it was me speculating. Looks like Gilbert went on IR shortly after they put Duehr on waivers.

Unfortunate turn of events for Duehr after being so good in his role last year but from the start he hasnt been able to replicate that type of game. Hopefully a stint in the A can help him get some confidence. I don't think your going to see Coronato called up until they can get him in a top 6 spot. I don't think Huska plays the 4th line enough for me to think putting Coronato there is a good idea. This might also be related to Kylington.

If he was being held out for a trade the Flames wouldn't be able to us an emergency recall to get Wolf up here, which they did. So the Flames risk a cap violation if that was their plan. Unlikely they would do that IMO.

Comment wasn't directed to anyone here and wasn't meant to be taking seriously. Skepticism of any move is fine but this one came with some flat out hatred and vitriol which I thought was excessive. But again not so much here just generally.

interesting that now that he is close to coming back he is "day to day" with an injury. Probably some gaming of the system going on there

I’d be interested in trying it but in the AHL Zary played a lot on the wing. Mind you there were good centers there but the flames didn’t seem intentional about him playing center. Always made me think they don’t necessarily see him as a center long term, which I can understand

Tyler Toffoli - 16G 29 Pts in 39 Games Sharangovich - 17G 30pts in 42 Games Flames pro scouting with a rare win here and certainly I think Conroy is owed an apology by many. IMO he's been their best player the last month and change. Think they've have a very good 2nd line forward here who can do a little bit of everything. I wasn't super familiar with his game but i've been impressed all year. Sure first week or so was rough but even then you saw a lot of intelligence, footspeed and work ethic you knew he'd eventually get it. Fun player to have.

Capfriendly still has him on LTIR which makes sense. This is an LTIR conditioning loan so he stays on LTIR while down there. Small difference than a regular conditioning stint.

Worth pointing out he gets his NHL salary while he's down there so there is really no reason for him not to agree to it. I would also suspect the Flames will ask for, and be granted, an extension.

New Managements Performance [This would be mostly the Coach and General Manager] GM - 4. They are acting on their message. Acquired some picks, got younger and continue to play young players. Only reason this isn't a 5 is I wish there was a clearer and more unanimous direction. Coach - 2. I didn't have a lot of hopes for Huska and so far he hasn't proven me wrong. I don't thikn he's cut out to be a NHL head coach Overall teams Performance. 3. I think they are playing below where they should but it's only by a little bit. Felt lke this team was going to be a playoff bubble team but i did think they'd play with a bit more fire early on trying to prove something. Offense Performance 2. I was going to go 3 but the PP makes this a 2. I thought there would be more creativity to their offense and there really isn't. Their PP is awful. Little movement, little creativity and i don't see what they are trying to accomplish. Defense Performance As a core/players I'd probably go 4. I think the vast majority of their D core is playing as well as it could. In terms of team Defense, 3. They are not as good and as consistent here as I think they should be, mostly due to systems. Goaltending Performance 4. Markstrom has been a 5 but everyone else has been a 2 or 3. After grading, make your comments and be a bit more specific. Where the area is needing improvement, or the area that was better than you thought it would be. What you would change to attain the goal of making the playoffs. For me this ship has sailed. They just aren't good enough. Finally: Are we better than last year? or Are we worse off. IMO they are the same. The only thing that may make me lean worse is Huberdeau didn't bounce back at all. I wasn't expecting a major one but to have none, and to actually perform worse, is a little worrisome (albeit he's playing better lately) Are we pointed in the right direction or Are we sliding off the map of relevance? I don't think a team every slides of the map but I don't think the Flames are heading in the right direction. I think they are heading towards a long stay in the mushy middle and basically are going to be the next Minnistota Wild. I think they'll be a little more intentional about adding picks, which is nice, but unless they get a steal i'm not sure what is going to break this pattern. Lastly has your fandom for the Flames changed this year or from the start of the year? Unchanged as i've felt this way for a while now. I do acknowledge the organization is showing more commitment to it's season ticket holders and fans and they are working to create a better atmosphere/feeling about the team. but on ice this has been trending down since Tkachuk/Gaudreau left.

Good for him. Really, really good to see.

See and I come at this differently, I can't figure out why people think the Senators are ready. While they have some nice pieces for sure i think they are so overrated. I think their forard depth is sketchy but most important their D core is rough. Chabot and Chykrun are good, but neither really a number 1 dman, and outside of that most of the players are either not good, or really raw. Agree they are a cautionary tale but the lesson is be realistic and be patient. I think the Senators rushed think because they mis evaluated what they had. I think they put too many playrs (ie Norris, Zub, Sanderson, Tkachuk) one notch above what they actually are.

Be exciting to see him back, albeit I imagine it will still be a little ways out. Ronney likely to get buried once he clears.

Probably right. but man it sucks watching Ostserle play when guys like this are on the farm.

Not surprised. The flames really haven’t been playing well for a while. Got lucky and good goaltending to win a few in a row but the quality of their play hasn’t been there. this an embarrassing game for a team that tries to tell people they should be a playoff team. time to look forward to some youth in the lineup and some trades because this team ain’t it.

Pending lottery luck I’m thinking the flames are between 5-10. Don’t see them getting to the bottom 4 because I think their goaltending will prevent it and there’s already a pretty decent point gap there. Even post trades I don’t see the bottom falling out enough to close a 15 point gap or more. this team hasn’t shown me anything that makes me think they’ll be a playoff team so I’m out on that one. Just a question of where they wind up before the lottery for me.

Not a good effort for me. I thought the flames gave the flyers way too much ice and space and really didn’t challenge them at any point. Markstrom is the only reason this was close.

Tends to happen when you get pushed from behind and don’t expect it

Well that’s a really dumb penalty. Zary is usually smarter than that

the defending is for sure the most concerning. I’m not sure I can point to something there doing well there. Philly has a lot of open ice to skate into today

Flames have been pretty poor today. This is probably the biggest mirage win streak I can remember for a while. Finding ways to win but their game doesn’t look good right now

That’s not even a penalty imo. Lindholm was going to deliver a legal hit and York ducked. What is Lindholm supposed to do? I get the result was bad but that’s more of an unfortunate outcome rather than an illegal action

im not sure what to do. Oh ill go stand right in front of my goalie.. perfect!

Man I cant stand watching Osterle. Flames have more than enough depth to make sure he doesn’t play again.