cross16 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 15 minutes ago, travel_dude said: You do a better job of explaining it that even Capfriendly does. I think the only thing missing is that we may not get the Panther's 2025 pick. It's lotto protected and would slide to 2026. I know he didn't ask, but it plays into it. Correct but it actually plays only a small impact so I didn't want to mention it to keep it simpler. The impact to not getting the Panthers pick is mostly if both the Flames and Panthers finish bottom 10 because then the Flames are essentially down 2 top 10 picks as they wouldn't get Florida's and their own would go to MTL (so long as it isn't number 1). But to be fair yes the impact is if Florida is bottom 10 and the Flames are not then the only first round pick the Flames would get next year is NJ (provided it isn't bottom 10). so there is a potential scenario where the Flames actually wouldn't have a first round pick in 2025. BUTTTT.... On the plus side there is a possibility that the Flames could go into the 2026 draft with 4 unprotected first round picks. #optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted June 24 Author Report Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, cross16 said: Correct but it actually plays only a small impact so I didn't want to mention it to keep it simpler. The impact to not getting the Panthers pick is mostly if both the Flames and Panthers finish bottom 10 because then the Flames are essentially down 2 top 10 picks as they wouldn't get Florida's and their own would go to MTL (so long as it isn't number 1). But to be fair yes the impact is if Florida is bottom 10 and the Flames are not then the only first round pick the Flames would get next year is NJ (provided it isn't bottom 10). so there is a potential scenario where the Flames actually wouldn't have a first round pick in 2025. BUTTTT.... On the plus side there is a possibility that the Flames could go into the 2026 draft with 4 unprotected first round picks. #optimism. That is funny to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, cross16 said: On the plus side there is a possibility that the Flames could go into the 2026 draft with 4 unprotected first round picks. #optimism. How 4? Only 3 right? CGY, VGK and NJD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 20 minutes ago, The_People1 said: How 4? Only 3 right? CGY, VGK and NJD. The 2025 Florida 1st rounder is also lottery protected and reverts to a 2026 in the event Florida was a bottom 10 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 22 minutes ago, cross16 said: The 2025 Florida 1st rounder is also lottery protected and reverts to a 2026 in the event Florida was a bottom 10 team. Ah I see. So CGY loses their pick to MTL in 2025. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Sounds like the Sharks are walking away from Calen Addison, who is an RFA with arb rights. He is a player I would sign as depth. RHS D, still only 24. Good skater and puck mover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 5 minutes ago, JTech780 said: Sounds like the Sharks are walking away from Calen Addison, who is an RFA with arb rights. He is a player I would sign as depth. RHS D, still only 24. Good skater and puck mover. No thanks. He's overrated. Whether it's MIN or SJS, he's a PP specialist who doesn't have enough tools to do anything once in the offensive zone. I'd rather we give Miromanov the chance with his big shot. He's like a Michael Stone with his RHS bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 15 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Ah I see. So CGY loses their pick to MTL in 2025. Possible scenario yes but again would require Florida to be a bottom 10 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreaker Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 4 hours ago, cross16 said: This is probably the most simple I can make this. The short answer is yes the flames pick is protected (to a certain extent) but so if the Panthers pick they are sending to the flames If the Flames finish bottom 10 and the Panthers are outside the bottom 10, MTL gets Florida's pick. If the Flames and Panthers both finish outside the bottom 10, MTL gets the better of the 2 picks. If the Panthers finish bottom 10 and the flames finish outside the top 10, MTL gets the Flames pick. If BOTH the Panthers and Flames finish in the bottom 10 then the Flames pick would go to the Habs unless it's first overall. In that scenario it reverts to a 2026 picks and would be given to MTL with no conditions. Not bad! Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 This makes the Markstrom deal look a lot better. Boston takes on a bad contract, 4th liner and they re-acquire their own pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 57 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: This makes the Markstrom deal look a lot better. Boston takes on a bad contract, 4th liner and they re-acquire their own pick. Pretty similar deal as I don’t think Ullmark will be as good away from the Bruins system. I don’t think Korpaisalo will be as much of a “cap dump” playing with the Bruins. He can be a capable goalie behind a good team. Sens just arnt very good I think Ottawa got the target wrong again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 52 minutes ago, Thebrewcrew said: This makes the Markstrom deal look a lot better. Boston takes on a bad contract, 4th liner and they re-acquire their own pick. OTT retains $1-mil-per on Korpisalo's contract. Korpisalo at $3-mil to backup is decent. Not great but not too bad. I expect Korpisalo's numbers to go up from BOS's defense. As Cross said, Ullmark away from BOS isn't proven. He might revert back to the BUF version of Ullmark. I don't know anything about Kastelic but in comparison, at least Kevin Bahl is a full time NHLer. I liked the Flames returns for Markstrom more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, The_People1 said: OTT retains $1-mil-per on Korpisalo's contract. Korpisalo at $3-mil to backup is decent. Not great but not too bad. I expect Korpisalo's numbers to go up from BOS's defense. As Cross said, Ullmark away from BOS isn't proven. He might revert back to the BUF version of Ullmark. I don't know anything about Kastelic but in comparison, at least Kevin Bahl is a full time NHLer. I liked the Flames returns for Markstrom more. Goalies have become the running backs of the NHL.. everybody wants one but nobody willing to pay for one A depth center ..similar pic ..tho I think the NJ one should end up a notch or 2 better .. Boston eats 3 years of salary. and many argued ullmark was the big prize .. I do think Korpisalo will suit well in Boston tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 41 minutes ago, phoenix66 said: Goalies have become the running backs of the NHL.. everybody wants one but nobody willing to pay for one A depth center ..similar pic ..tho I think the NJ one should end up a notch or 2 better .. Boston eats 3 years of salary. and many argued ullmark was the big prize .. I do think Korpisalo will suit well in Boston tho Where does this leave LAK? Re-sign Talbot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 1 minute ago, The_People1 said: Where does this leave LAK? Re-sign Talbot? Perhaps ..but still hoping we do Technically Salo is still out there..but he's gotta be the big price tag youd think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 3 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said: and they re-acquire their own pick. That pick has some miles on it. It's acquired Bertuzzi, DeBrincat and Ullmark. It's gotta be ready for the draft by now. Watch it get traded on the floor. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 17 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Where does this leave LAK? Re-sign Talbot? picked up Keumper. I don’t think that’s a cap dump behind that LA team. He’ll be much better I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebrewcrew Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 34 minutes ago, conundrumed said: That pick has some miles on it. It's acquired Bertuzzi, DeBrincat and Ullmark. It's gotta be ready for the draft by now. Watch it get traded on the floor. lol They gotta find themselves a centre. Think they end up with Lindholm in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted Tuesday at 03:33 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:33 PM https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/zegras-a-trade-target-but-move-may-wait Apparently the Flames are among the teams to have shown serious interest in Zegras. Sounds like the asking price is very high and they Ducks aren’t looking for picks and prospects in return. Not sure what Calgary has to offer to make a trade, or if Zegras is the right target anyways. IMO he needs to show way more substance to his game to be worth shelling out a lot for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted Tuesday at 03:43 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:43 PM 11 minutes ago, JTech780 said: https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/zegras-a-trade-target-but-move-may-wait Apparently the Flames are among the teams to have shown serious interest in Zegras. Sounds like the asking price is very high and they Ducks aren’t looking for picks and prospects in return. Not sure what Calgary has to offer to make a trade, or if Zegras is the right target anyways. IMO he needs to show way more substance to his game to be worth shelling out a lot for him. The connection to Calgary feels like low hanging fruit given that Conroy has publicly stated he's open to, and has a strong desire for, acquiring young centers. As a player Zegras is nowhere near the profile that they look for so I have a hard time believing the Flames are actually interested. if there were truth to it I could see something along the lines of Zegras for Rasmus being fair value for both sides. I think the Flames should get more than 1 for 1 but the basis of that deal makes sense to me as I don't think the Ducks want to keep staying in the basement any longer. But I want no part of Zegras so it's not a deal i'd make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM 22 minutes ago, JTech780 said: https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/zegras-a-trade-target-but-move-may-wait Apparently the Flames are among the teams to have shown serious interest in Zegras. Sounds like the asking price is very high and they Ducks aren’t looking for picks and prospects in return. Not sure what Calgary has to offer to make a trade, or if Zegras is the right target anyways. IMO he needs to show way more substance to his game to be worth shelling out a lot for him. Would ANA be interested in Huberdeau+ for Zegras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak22 Posted Tuesday at 03:59 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:59 PM 3 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Would ANA be interested in Huberdeau+ for Zegras? Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefsmi Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM For interest sakes. Lets say Tij is gone by 9. Would we look a trading down to take Wilds 13th and Rossi? Think they would do it if Catton is still Av at 9? Would it be worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM 24 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Would ANA be interested in Huberdeau+ for Zegras? I think you have already traded him 10x over. Huberdeau may not be exactly the right player for us, but he's not the exact wrong player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM 2 hours ago, travel_dude said: I think you have already traded him 10x over. Huberdeau may not be exactly the right player for us, but he's not the exact wrong player. I'm not saying it's easy to move Huberdeau but we have to consider all ways to cut our losses short and move on. Think about the 2028/29/30 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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