GDT - Sharks @ FLAMES - Tues 22 March 2022

[robrob74]

34 minutes ago, cross16 said:

 

Because taking a player off of LTIR is different than putting him on it. To put a player on LTIR Monahan would have had to fail a physical or the club's doctor would have to deem he is unable to play for a period of 10 games or 24 days and that is required to be submitted to the league when the request. However, in the CBA there is nothing specified in terms of when a player has to come off of LTIR. it just says "when fit to play" but there is no specifics nor is there mechanisms for the league to challenge when a player is healthy. They can challenge a player being placed on LTIR but not if he is on there "too long".  That was the controversy in Tampa because I think it was very likely Kucherov was ready to play before the playoffs but Tampa was able to stash him on LTIR. Different situation with Monahan.

 

Flames could potentially have healthy scratched him or managed his work load better (something Sutter is alluding to today) but they just don't get cap relief for it. 

 

Also food for thought, Kucherov surgery was Dec 23rd and he returned May 15th (Practicing for 2 weeks prior)

Monahan had surgery May 12th and was in training camp late September. No games until October. It's the same time frame. 

But he was still getting over surgery and could barely cross over on turns for the first half of the season. Or maybe he just wrecked himself by playing through all of these injuries and prolonging the time he got surgeries? Either way he’s not been smart about how he handled his injuries. While doing service for the team by playing through them, he’s also done a disservice by possibly shortening  his career. 

[sak22]

42 minutes ago, robrob74 said:

But he was still getting over surgery and could barely cross over on turns for the first half of the season. Or maybe he just wrecked himself by playing through all of these injuries and prolonging the time he got surgeries? Either way he’s not been smart about how he handled his injuries. While doing service for the team by playing through them, he’s also done a disservice by possibly shortening  his career. 

I wouldn't criticize how he's handled himself, thats how these guys are programmed.  If you look at Tyler Seguin who played through serious injuries in the bubble and missed almost all of last season and hasn't been what he used to be this year, a little better more recently but for 5 more years at nearly 10 million cap hit.  Theres probably a lot going through their head, probably feel like they can still perform because they are extremely confident borderline arrogant individuals, feel they are letting their teammates down if they aren't out there, or have the fear of being replaced if someone else performs in their spot.