phoenix66 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 San Jose just gave up a 1st to Boston for Martin Jones.. so Ramo not likely going there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Starter options are dwindling. I think the only teams that could maybe look for a starter, or someone to play significant games other than Calgary would be: Carolina - Cam Ward aging Maybe Philly to play alongside Mason but cap is an issue for them Everyone else looks pretty set in net so if Ramo wants to play in the NHL coming back to Calgary is likely his best shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I think we're back to keeping Hiller, re-signing Ramo (my number would be $3.4M/yr for 2 years), and hope Orito will clear waivers at the start of the season. Possibly trade Hiller at the 2015/2016 trade deadline if the other two goalies are playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Starter options are dwindling. I think the only teams that could maybe look for a starter, or someone to play significant games other than Calgary would be: Carolina - Cam Ward aging Maybe Philly to play alongside Mason but cap is an issue for them Everyone else looks pretty set in net so if Ramo wants to play in the NHL coming back to Calgary is likely his best shot. scratch Carolina-- they Got Eddie Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamesLogic Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Its looking like Calgary has pick of Ramo or Neuvirth on a 3ish year deal to platoon with Hiller. There is no one else left that is looking to add a goalie to a good part of a platoon.Ideally they deal Hiller at deadline and bring Ortio up. Gillies then becomes starting in AHL for next couple years until decision needs to be made on NHL goalies. McDonald then takes over in AHL crease if no better prospect has emerged.Goalie spots left: Arizona needs strict backup to Smith Chicago has backup to Crawford open (will be taken by Darling) CHI signed Leighton to minimum contract as Darling can still do AHL. LA has a backup spot to Quick open (wont be looking to spend much on UFA due to cap and may have AHLer Berube ready to promote) Islanders have spot open to pair with Halak. Halak at 4.5M likely means Islanders cant spend too much on partner for an equal or minor share of platoon. Philly has spot open to pair with Mason. Mason has 4.1M and Philly is tight on cap (less than 7mil to spend on Del Zotto and goalie) Pitts has backup to Fleury spot open (will be spending minimum on backup) St Louis has spot open to pair with Brian Elliot. (The also have 25 yr old RFA Jake Allen though who is likely cheaper and just as talented as any UFA so highly unlikely they add). Tampa has backup to Bishop spot open (and zero dollars to spend on one, so basically think NHL minimum contracts) Toronto has spot open to pair with Reimer (but is in arbitration with Bernier, so if they sign a goalie it means Bernier is walking) Washington has spot open to start over Justin Peters (They also have RFA starter Brandon Holtby though so unlikely to add) So of all the teams with spots technically "open" the only other teams that may be willing to spend 3-4M on a goalie is the Islanders and I can see them getting a guy like Viktor Fasth or Nabokov for like 2.5M over 3 years instead.Really when it comes to Ramo and Neuvirth we are mostly bidding against KHL teams and with the way the Russian economy and political situation is we have all the leverage here.I would whichever of these guys takes around a 4year 3M AAV deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Starter options are dwindling. I think the only teams that could maybe look for a starter, or someone to play significant games other than Calgary would be: Carolina - Cam Ward aging Maybe Philly to play alongside Mason but cap is an issue for them Everyone else looks pretty set in net so if Ramo wants to play in the NHL coming back to Calgary is likely his best shot. Carolina has Lack now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Ramo is signed to a one year deal, for over 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 3.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Ramo is signed to a one year deal, for over 3. This is perfect, good money, show me time. All 3 main goalies on same term now.we can decide by end of next season who we keep, and see how Gillies looks his first year as a pro. BT does it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 This is perfect, good money, show me time. All 3 main goalies on same term now.we can decide by end of next season who we keep, and see how Gillies looks his first year as a pro. BT does it again! I like the deal, as it makes three guys need to be their best in TC. TBH, I think that the coach and BT lost faith in Hiller, so he may be a trade in waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I like the deal, as it makes three guys need to be their best in TC. TBH, I think that the coach and BT lost faith in Hiller, so he may be a trade in waiting. Current stories I'm hearing is that the Sharks are very interested in Hiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Current stories I'm hearing is that the Sharks are very interested in Hiller. I think that the Sharks traded for and signed Jones to be that #1 goalie. Think they are out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I think that the Sharks traded for and signed Jones to be that #1 goalie. Think they are out. Could have some merit, takes guts to throw your weight behind a guy with less than 20 NHL starts. Even Edmonton has Scrivens to bail out Talbot. Hiller could be a great fit and mentor to Jones. Not pushing for his trade, but for the right return its a deal id make 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I heard on Fan960 that Ortio is on a one way deal this coming season. This means one goalie may be victim of the waiver wire come opening night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkRaving Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 If a player gets sent down 12 days (?) prior to the season opener, he's waiver exempt. This could be the plan for Ortio. Or, maybe BT wanted to wrap up his assets so he could trade a goalie rather than lose Ramo to free agency. Maybe he'll bundle one of our goalies along with a bad contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 hard to say , but at least now its in the team control, not being dictated by free agency or otherwise, Totally the best move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Could have some merit, takes guts to throw your weight behind a guy with less than 20 NHL starts. Even Edmonton has Scrivens to bail out Talbot. Hiller could be a great fit and mentor to Jones. Not pushing for his trade, but for the right return its a deal id make Totally agree. Jones signed 3 mil each for 3 years for yet a still largely unproven goalie. TSN is calling him the starter. But whos behind him? I know nothing about Stalock (if he's still there), or any of their futures. Seems like a huge risk for any team wanting to make an immediate impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 If a player gets sent down 12 days (?) prior to the season opener, he's waiver exempt. This could be the plan for Ortio. Or, maybe BT wanted to wrap up his assets so he could trade a goalie rather than lose Ramo to free agency. Maybe he'll bundle one of our goalies along with a bad contract. I like the move. Gives us the option of Hiller/Ramo, Ramo/Orio, Hiller/Ortio with the option of sending down the worst of the bunch or trading one of them. We don't lose Ramo for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I like the deal. I'm not sure a trade is coming because I'm not seeing a team that would want a 4.5 mill cap hit in net anymore. I think the plan is to let them battle it out because I think they were expecting one of Hiller/Ramo to really grab the job last year and neither did so I think this year they want one of the three to grab it. I'm not worried about Ortio and waivers. Look at all the goalie movement this offseason and tell me who needs a goalie that bad anymore? the thing with Ortio and waivers that's key to remember is if you are going to claim a player on waivers he needs to stay on your NHL team because if you grab him and want to send him down he gets offered back to the original club first. NHL teams are filling that need so I don't think Ortio is going to interest a lot of teams on waivers and I think would clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omit555 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I want to see Ortio & Ramo tandem. Two Fin goalie, nothing can't go wrong. By the way Ramo is better than Hiller IMO and Ortio has proven that he is ready to NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis1891 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 a question about waivers... I know Ortio has to clear waivers to be sent back down, but what happens, say, mid season we have an injury? Does he have to clear waivers to come back up, and again when he's sent back down after said injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccsberg Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 a question about waivers... I know Ortio has to clear waivers to be sent back down, but what happens, say, mid season we have an injury? Does he have to clear waivers to come back up, and again when he's sent back down after said injury? In the new CBA you only have to clear Waivers when you are sent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis1891 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 In the new CBA you only have to clear Waivers when you are sent down. So we could lose him if he's having a stellar season, and up for an injury recall/sent back down after. That's too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I like the deal. I'm not sure a trade is coming because I'm not seeing a team that would want a 4.5 mill cap hit in net anymore. I think the plan is to let them battle it out because I think they were expecting one of Hiller/Ramo to really grab the job last year and neither did so I think this year they want one of the three to grab it. I'm not worried about Ortio and waivers. Look at all the goalie movement this offseason and tell me who needs a goalie that bad anymore? the thing with Ortio and waivers that's key to remember is if you are going to claim a player on waivers he needs to stay on your NHL team because if you grab him and want to send him down he gets offered back to the original club first. NHL teams are filling that need so I don't think Ortio is going to interest a lot of teams on waivers and I think would clear. Unfortunately, i agree. I don't expect a trade coming for Hiller. When you look around the league, basically every single team has a #1 designated and not a lot of teams can afford a $4.5-mil back-up. Hiller was linked to San Jose who just traded for Martin Jones and it looks like he's their guy going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 The only trade that I can envision for Hiller would be at the trade deadline, to a play-off bound team with an injury to one of their goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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