Lucid_Flame91 Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Here comes the oilers vs penguins game, Im kinda scared to watch this, and im not even a oilers fan. But its just too funny to bug my co-workers about their team in shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 SPOILER ALERT.......... Oils lose again (yeaaaaaa). - J.Shultz is playing with Belov on 3rd pairing (hard to tell, though since they are all mostly bad). - Jones on 4th line - Line blender in effect; all looked rather bad at times. - La Barbara looked OK in nets; not spectacular, but OK. - Yak looked to be trying too hard; broke his stick or missed more 1-timers than not. - Nuge was invisible except when he gave away the puck If they win a game on the road trip, they will be lucky. Maybe against Islanders or Ottawa; doubt they win in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheriforPM Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 The Big Meltdown has started in Oilerland. There is a thread on their forums that covers "fire everyone" Klowe, MacT, Eakins, & a trade thread that says trade just about everyone........ Everyone(posters up there) has a different opinion on what/who is to blame and they are pointing fingers in all directions... I am sorry but I can no longer feel sorry for anyone in Oiler country. Too many of your trolls coming here telling us they were "the future cup contenders just wait" and just wait and wait some more which is why this season I said it is time to put up or shutup...... Man this meltdown is some putup........ I told them their goaltenders were weak and they threw stats at us to attempt to say different. So how are your goaltenders doing this year???? Underwhelming at best... I told them their D was improved but still substandard... and how is that team D doing??? To be fair no team would do very well with their #1 and #2 Centers out but RNH only missed a couple of the games. I told them their top 6 were small and played small..... Sure enough changing out the only big winger they had for another smaller winger with grit(where's the beef?) hasn't helped much if at all. Their top 6 is a turnover machine along with their star puck moving DMan JSchultz...lol I thought Butler was bad but this guy..... I told them that their "culture was imbedding into their players that it is okay to lose. I noticed that Renny would say in his press conferences it was okay due to injuries. The culture starts at the top highlighted KLowes smug "I know how to win, I have SC Rings" comments.... okay KLowe how about you strap on the skates and show them how it is done because the message isn't getting through from behind your executive desk.... The thing that irks me the worst is they(Oiler fans) kept coming here trying to tell me that the Flames were about to go through the same long drawn out rebuild they "had just finished going through" say what???? Ummm no we don't have to drink your kool-aid and we don't have to mirror your abyssmal rebuild. The Islanders used to be the most dysfunctional franchise in all of hockey. It appears to me that honour now goes to our former rivals from just north of us. So with this big meltdown up north comes a blessing.... yes a blessing for us. Notice how quiet it is around here with no sign of the Oiler Trolls? I kinda miss Connor on here Deeds, he was ... determined hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckening Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 AJ Jakubec @AJonSports Kravchuk on Yakupov. "If he's not going to change his game, he has no future. He has no team game." Pretty damning assessment. #Oilers This warmed my heart when I read it this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL44 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 1-5-1 The culture of losing is only ingraining itself into the fabric of the Oilers deeper and deeper. Like the last 2-3 yrs, the big early season road trip has been the turning point of the Oiler season. So far on this 6 game eastern swing : 0-2-1 This year the injury to Gagner and goaltending is the cause. In past yrs, the goaltending had held up to reasonable levels. Not so this yr. Soooo many softies you almost feel bad for them. The thing that holds off really feeling bad for them is the knowledge that all we will hear about from their fans between April 2014 to October 2014 is about how THIS is the year the Oilers take a big step forward because of well they finished the previous season and because of their other Ference-like acquisition. I bought in and Assumed Yak and Hall would take big strides in the scoring department. But what can you do if you have no centers. I knew that would hold them back in the wins department, but i thought the kids would at least still pot their points. Hall with 6 in 7 is still ok. But the Yak story is a tough one. No one in their right mind should to write him off for a one reason - who has his center been? 50 some gms into his career, with 30 some points... i still think he will explode once surrounded with a capable center on the regular. PP with The Nuge isn't what i'm talking about. Another thing Eakins hasn't done yet - Hall and Yak played together at the end of last season which led to them finishing very strong in the scoring department... why hasn't he tried that yet for a significant amount of time? Ol' skool Pride? no brainer to me... but shhhhh... maybe he never figures it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 We are miles ahead of where the Oilers should be right now. Some of their posters are admitting that. Some are also starting to gloat over the anticipated Vancouver rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_worthy Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Assuming 96 pts as a target, the Oilers would have to play .620 the rest of the way to make the playoffs. For the record, over the last 5 years, between 6 and 9 teams play at that pace each year. I don't like their chances of being a top 8 or 9 team in the league the rest of the way. So, as usual, it's back to the draft table for our friends up north. Will there be a new season of Oil Change next year (that would be year 5)? Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4xon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Will there be a new season of Oil Change next year (that would be year 5)? Stay tuned. Generally when I change my oil, I don't re-use the same stuff I empty out of my engine, nor do I spin on the same old filter.....and then high five my buddies because I changed my oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DL44 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Assuming 96 pts as a target, the Oilers would have to play .620 the rest of the way to make the playoffs. For the record, over the last 5 years, between 6 and 9 teams play at that pace each year. I don't like their chances of being a top 8 or 9 team in the league the rest of the way. So, as usual, it's back to the draft table for our friends up north. Will there be a new season of Oil Change next year (that would be year 5)? Stay tuned. To add to their predicament.. The west has been feasting on the East this yr... so with so many more crossover games, that equals a lot more pts in the West raising the playoff bar even further than the traditional 95ish pt mark. EDIT: I checked the West-East records.. West vs the East: 31-11-4, 66 pts East vs the West: 15-26- 5, 35 pts The West is almost doubling up the East at this VERY early stage. Even if it normalizes a bit, the playoff bar is still should be much higher in the West... and higher than 95.. i.e. Very tough sledding for the Oil, and even more of a dismal picture than the 0.620 requirement you've painted. Also to put the low 0.620 pt pace in perspective: that is a 102 point team over 82 games. The Oilers are not a 102 pt type team. So lets wipe Playoff potential off the table for them... What are we looking at here... a like top 3-5 drafting team? That's annoying enough for me.... ignoring their lottery winning potential. Argggg... It's for this reason alone, i'm cheering for them to start winning a few so they can drop to like 10th in the draft. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_worthy Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I read somewhere today that the current pace for the west is 109 pts and for the east, 82 pts (didn't do the math myself, so I can't confirm) However, I don't expect that to last so I just went with the 'normal' target But as you say, there is a decent chance that the number is higher than 96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL44 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I read somewhere today that the current pace for the west is 109 pts and for the east, 82 pts (didn't do the math myself, so I can't confirm) However, I don't expect that to last so I just went with the 'normal' target But as you say, there is a decent chance that the number is higher than 96 Yeah that's a pretty extreme pace to expect to continue. I'm think more along the lines of 90-91ish in the east, 97-98ish in the West. It's been that low and that high before... and this season is definitely looking like it'll set up to be one of the more extreme yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hmmm... Desperate times in the crease in Oilville apparently... http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd?AdId=532724146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleMania Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 And the oilers fall to the islanders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Which young core would you rather have? Edmonton: Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, RNH, Schultz Colorado: Duchene, MacKinnon, Johnson, O'Reilly, Landeskog Calgary: Monahan, Baertschi, Brodie, ??????, ?????? I would take Colorado's any day of the week. But I don't like Edmonton's. It is a group that amplifies each other's weakness, is poorly put together, and is comprised of the wrong positions (one small C, one D that can't play D, and a bunch of wingers). A core establishes an identity. And Edmonton is playing with the identity most people would expect of that core. Edmonton needs to rebuild again if they want to go anywhere. Not the trade everyone and build through the draft type of rebuild. But they need to change out some of that core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Which young core would you rather have? Edmonton: Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, RNH, Schultz Colorado: Duchene, MacKinnon, Johnson, O'Reilly, Landeskog Calgary: Monahan, Baertschi, Brodie, ??????, ?????? I would take Colorado's any day of the week. But I don't like Edmonton's. It is a group that amplifies each other's weakness, is poorly put together, and is comprised of the wrong positions (one small C, one D that can't play D, and a bunch of wingers). A core establishes an identity. And Edmonton is playing with the identity most people would expect of that core. Edmonton needs to rebuild again if they want to go anywhere. Not the trade everyone and build through the draft type of rebuild. But they need to change out some of that core. Yup, agreed. Agree on the ranking, and on Edmonton's need to rebuild again. unfortunate. Truthfully, I don't think we're going to keep up our current miracle, though. So....those question marks you have for Calgary may very well give Colorado a big run for their money. We may be adding Gaudeau to that list soon too. Possibly Gillies as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL44 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Next Oiler win anyone? One of their remaining road games? Once they get back home? Not till they hit Nov? Not until Gagner comes back? Tough Schedule. Sat, Oct 19 @OttawaTue, Oct 22 @MontrealThu, Oct 24 vsWashingtonSat, Oct 26 @PhoenixSun, Oct 27 @Los AngelesTue, Oct 29 vsTorontoSat, Nov 2 vsDetroit Tue, Nov 5 @FloridaThu, Nov 7 @Tampa BaySat, Nov 9 @PhiladelphiaSun, Nov 10 @Chicago if they don't win the next one.. jeesh.. i don't know. 4 games into this road trip - 4 losses. 5 straight losses overall. I shouldn't be surprised, but i would be lying if i really said i wasn't a little. It's seriously like watching a car wreck at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Next Oiler win anyone? One of their remaining road games? Once they get back home? Not till they hit Nov? Not until Gagner comes back? Tough Schedule. Sat, Oct 19@Ottawa Tue, Oct 22@Montreal Thu, Oct 24vsWashington Sat, Oct 26@Phoenix Sun, Oct 27@Los Angeles Tue, Oct 29vsToronto Sat, Nov 2 vsDetroit Tue, Nov 5 @Florida Thu, Nov 7 @Tampa Bay Sat, Nov 9 @Philadelphia Sun, Nov 10 @Chicago They will squeek out an overtime or shootout win against Phoenix on the 26th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL44 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 They will squeek out an overtime or shootout win against Phoenix on the 26th. I think their best chances of winning are vs teams with weaker backends lacking the stud dmen. Good D are holding em at bay nicely right now. I thought they had a great chance to win vs the Islanders and their backend.. but they couldn't pull that off... Phoenix, altho not off to a great start, still have a deep D to contend with. If i were to bet $ - Vs Washington maybe? But they haven't been able to stop the opposing superstars either, so i don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I think their best chances of winning are vs teams with weaker backends lacking the stud dmen. Good D are holding em at bay nicely right now. I thought they had a great chance to win vs the Islanders and their backend.. but they couldn't pull that off... Phoenix, altho not off to a great start, still have a deep D to contend with. If i were to bet $ - Vs Washington maybe? But they haven't been able to stop the opposing superstars either, so i don't know. Maybe but the Yotes are a team that play exceptional with the lead and not so much without it. I figure the Oilers will get a couple quick ones that the Yotes won't quite be able to fully recover from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invin Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'm going to say Montreal on the 22nd. All it takes is Price having a shaky night (which isn't uncommon) and the Oilers wanting it more. Oh, and Subban taking a bunch of stupid penalties and getting the Oiler PP going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4xon Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Something tells me the Oilers are picking top 3 again at the draft, and most assuredly higher than the Flames. It's something that might be a reality, but makes me a little angry. The waste of top end talent funneling into that org is criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix66 Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Something tells me the Oilers are picking top 3 again at the draft, and most assuredly higher than the Flames. It's something that might be a reality, but makes me a little angry. The waste of top end talent funneling into that org is criminal. Nah..theyll just end up taking another flashy forward they dont need and let the defenseman fall to us.lol..hopefully they jump on nylander..id geab reinhart tho Hall leaves todays game with an apparent knee injury..man, it just keeps getting worse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgallow Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Something tells me the Oilers are picking top 3 again at the draft, and most assuredly higher than the Flames. It's something that might be a reality, but makes me a little angry. The waste of top end talent funneling into that org is criminal. Really? Maybe a little early for us to declare the rebuild over, no? I'm not saying it go on endlessly, like our Northern neighbours, but I don't see why a couple early wins would change our fortune this year yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4xon Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Really? Maybe a little early for us to declare the rebuild over, no? I'm not saying it go on endlessly, like our Northern neighbours, but I don't see why a couple early wins would change our fortune this year yet. Who said the rebuild was over? More like stating theirs is just starting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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