travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Nobody wants to shoot. Pass it around where the Jets overload a side. Ras walks in and passes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Zaddy does us right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Man Posted January 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 This game reminds me so much of our series against Dallas in the playoffs last year.. not surprising given it's Sutter V Bowness again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames for life Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Had to be a flukey rebound that freezes Markstrom. Lots of phenomenal saves, and then the wonky bounce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 3rd period close game, we don't have the horses to win a 1-1 game. Down 2-1 with minutes left. Needed Backlund to get one of his shots in. He had like 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Maybe sit the 2nd line for a bit. Not feeling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames for life Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Great tip by Gagner, darn it!!🤬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Same type of play, in the net. Don't we have people that can deflect the puck? All our goals tonight are on the rush, which is great, but no point shots. None on the PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz89 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Damn it, why can't Marky just shut the door for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, taz89 said: Damn it, why can't Marky just shut the door for once A foot wide and a perfect deflection. Maybe take the stick of the guy in front of the net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Game over. Toffoli gets a bad call for a hack on the stick. No time to pull the goalie, assuming we kill it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Take the loss, look at game tapes. It wasn't a blowout, but we didn't score on the HD chances. Always trying to come back doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames for life Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Well, the positive’s are the flames did not look scattered, as they had been even 10-15 games ago. I saw more complete passing and some traffic in front( albeit not enough). Hubie is starting to shoot, yay! The lines seems to be connecting with each other better, and Markstrom is giving us pretty good tending. Calgary was in the game throughout, and was 2 goalposts short of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz89 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, travel_dude said: A foot wide and a perfect deflection. Maybe take the stick of the guy in front of the net? How about saving the Morrissey goal...thats a timely great save that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, taz89 said: How about saving the Morrissey goal...thats a timely great save that is needed. I will give you that one. Wasn't a sure thing goal. All in all, it wasn't goaltending that cost us the game. When you get a couple of PP and your only good chance hits the post, then you likely lose the game. We are in that grove of barely able to score 3, so asking for perfect goaltending is a big ask. Lines 2 and 4 gone cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz89 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Its pretty much a given that both our goaltenders will give up 2-3 goals or more per game for sure. I don't expect any shutouts this season at all. So if we can't score more than 2 goals per game on most nights, you do that math, are we making the playoffs or not? Odds are right now that unless we get a top 6 goal scorer who can make a difference especially on the PP we are looking at a short year this year and probably some management changes. Just my 2 cents on how i see things. Most of you won't agree and that's fine, I'm all for being optimistic but it's very hard to be that way right now. 2 game winning streaks are not going to cut it. Anyway, have a good night all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob74 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, taz89 said: Its pretty much a given that both our goaltenders will give up 2-3 goals or more per game for sure. I don't expect any shutouts this season at all. So if we can't score more than 2 goals per game on most nights, you do that math, are we making the playoffs or not? Odds are right now that unless we get a top 6 goal scorer who can make a difference especially on the PP we are looking at a short year this year and probably some management changes. Just my 2 cents on how i see things. Most of you won't agree and that's fine, I'm all for being optimistic but it's very hard to be that way right now. 2 game winning streaks are not going to cut it. Anyway, have a good night all.. I don't think a top 6 scorer helps if there's no one to get him the puck. Although, maybe if someone can get to high danger areas,Anne you're right, they might score more. We aren't much different than the last few years because guys can't get to the front. but guys can't fight their way to the front and it's been the issues on this team for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz89 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, robrob74 said: I don't think a top 6 scorer helps if there's no one to get him the puck. Although, maybe if someone can get to high danger areas,Anne you're right, they might score more. We aren't much different than the last few years because guys can't get to the front. Oh boy...if nobody we have now can get a top 6 scorer the puck we are doomed...pssst...Huberdeau to Kane = goal locker room conversation: Hey Hubbey....nobody here can shoot and score so you are going to have to do that... Hubbey: What? WTF?....guys i had 85 assists last year, not goals. Sutter: God help us! Marky! I need 20-25 shutouts from you this year! Just trying to throw some humor here...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, robrob74 said: I don't think a top 6 scorer helps if there's no one to get him the puck. Although, maybe if someone can get to high danger areas,Anne you're right, they might score more. We aren't much different than the last few years because guys can't get to the front. but guys can't fight their way to the front and it's been the issues on this team for years. Sutter went on a rant about getting to the net and not always getting shots from the point. So, now we stopped shooting from the point and have people in front. Not much point if there is nothing to screen, nothing to deflect. 2 goals scored on Mrkey were screened/tipped. Most teams score like that. We won't take the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames-fan-in-jets-land Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Not sure what Kahdri did to the Jets before but there were quite a bit of off boo birds coming out whenever he touched the puck. More LOUUUUUCH than I expected also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 hours ago, travel_dude said: Sutter went on a rant about getting to the net and not always getting shots from the point. So, now we stopped shooting from the point and have people in front. Not much point if there is nothing to screen, nothing to deflect. 2 goals scored on Mrkey were screened/tipped. Most teams score like that. We won't take the shot. As long as Lucic is 2LW I don’t really care what Sutter says. He loves 1 goal games he’s got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, conundrumed said: As long as Lucic is 2LW I don’t really care what Sutter says. He loves 1 goal games he’s got them. The only thing Lucic can do is get in front of the goalie abd take his eyes away. That's useless if you are not shooting from the point. Watching him shuffling around in the O zone and any passes going his way are turnovers.... We lost two skilled players that could score. We gained two players that could score. We have turned into a low skill team that hopes for a one goal win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, travel_dude said: The only thing Lucic can do is get in front of the goalie abd take his eyes away. That's useless if you are not shooting from the point. Watching him shuffling around in the O zone and any passes going his way are turnovers.... We lost two skilled players that could score. We gained two players that could score. We have turned into a low skill team that hopes for a one goal win. And when we get ahead he wants to practice defence. Craig MacTavish. Critical about everything but himself. Next up: "wanna count my cup rings". Probably. It gets old. I used to enjoy it, now he's just a miserable old codger. Call up your future and bench your cup winners from a different era. He complained about pace, now he's the problem with pace. Thanks for Z, go bale hay and take Lucic and Lewis with you. Evolve with the game ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, conundrumed said: And when we get ahead he wants to practice defence. Craig MacTavish. Critical about everything but himself. Next up: "wanna count my cup rings". Probably. It gets old. I used to enjoy it, now he's just a miserable old codger. Call up your future and bench your cup winners from a different era. He complained about pace, now he's the problem with pace. Thanks for Z, go bale hay and take Lucic and Lewis with you. Evolve with the game ffs. TBH, I had issues with Lewis, but he is okay for a 4th line guy. He competes. A little useless with the puck some plays, but he's around it. 11 minutes? Okay, we had a lot of PK time. But the Lucic story got old the minute he played a second longer than 9 minutes. Hubey played 14 minutes to Lucic's 12 to Kadri's 17. If you force the best passer to the off wing to allow Lucic to be on the line, then you are Blockchained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, travel_dude said: TBH, I had issues with Lewis, but he is okay for a 4th line guy. He competes. A little useless with the puck some plays, but he's around it. 11 minutes? Okay, we had a lot of PK time. But the Lucic story got old the minute he played a second longer than 9 minutes. Hubey played 14 minutes to Lucic's 12 to Kadri's 17. If you force the best passer to the off wing to allow Lucic to be on the line, then you are Blockchained. While I agree and he's good on the PK, what's the plan to replace him? I've always liked Lewis but not when it looks like we'll just re-sign him every year when we need to get younger and faster like everyone else is doing. I guess my point is, where tf are we going with this right now? Looks stagnant to me, why not inject some youth and try other looks? We're playing okay, lose 3-2, 2-1, 3-2, 4-3. Is this the way? Or change things up? Feels like we're fitting a square into a circle. When that doesn't work, fit a circle into a square...never changing the ingredients. Again, we're a table full of chilli ingredients, but no one wants to experiment that maybe the A has some chocolate, cilantro, spinach, lime to make it a stellar bowl of chilli. Why try when you've got beef, onions, green peppers, kidney beans and Old El Paso? Just like the package says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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