The_People1 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, tmac70 said: For the burn it to the ground group, move on. This is one guy yes it stings a lot but the owners never have a give up attitude. Plus there is no way we could get to the point of where CHI or ARZ are. This really hurts because it's so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Oh I know it will never happen, but it should. That’s why we will always be middle of the pack. I know it was only one guy, but that one guys was responsible for more than half of our offense. The fear now, is that we are going to lean even more into the size and defense side of the game and that’s how this free agency period will play out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 So, the first signing of the day is Kevin Rooney, 2 years at 1.2M. Actually 1.3M I won't judge this deal right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Thomas signed an 8x8.125M extension in STL. Signed and traded for Tkachuk. LOL. ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac70 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, The_People1 said: Judging from BT's presser, he was all in Gaudreau. There was no Plan B discussed to any degree of seriousness. The group will meet this morning on a plan forward. If that is the case than he needs to be let go, you can't be that incompatant in your role. You have to have multiple options its not rocket science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac70 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, travel_dude said: So, the first signing of the day is Kevin Rooney, 2 years at 1.2M. Actually 1.3M I won't judge this deal right now. Wow, who the hell is Kevin Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, travel_dude said: So, the first signing of the day is Kevin Rooney, 2 years at 1.2M. Actually 1.3M I won't judge this deal right now. Well this goes in line with my last post about targeting size and defense. This deal isn’t going to break us, but there is no reason to give this type of player more than league minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, travel_dude said: Thomas signed an 8x8.125M extension in STL. Signed and traded for Tkachuk. LOL. ROFL Interesting, there are no clauses indicated on that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, JTech780 said: Well this goes in line with my last post about targeting size and defense. This deal isn’t going to break us, but there is no reason to give this type of player more than league minimum. We even need to pay more for fringe players to consider signing here 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac70 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, phoenix66 said: I am with you on the deadline ..i would have said the draft as well.. at least a "give us a number that he signs right now " .. but we also don't know the inside ..maybe pressure would have just gotten the same answer sooner ..but ya , a deadline for at least engaging wouid have been appropriate Even with Matthew ..discussions start..but if he signs the QO or training camp opens without a deal. Then that should be the cutoff point I will say this .. he said all the right things, but the presser with BT he didn't look sad he looked PO'd .. he could have totally thrown Johnny and family and agent under the bus but didn't that says a lot too There is a nothing wrong with professinallism, but you also have to have some balls. JG was provided to much time and that decison by your GM just F'ed this club. Like I said there has to be consideration on both sides, it just can't always favour the player, its a huge sign of weakness. In the end the professional decorum from Trevling has done nothing for this club other than put you in a position of weakness. The other issue is does that is concerning is it appears he has no plan moving forward, if this did occur, speculation for sure but you now have a huge whole that we know can't be filled in FA. I am not pissed that JG left what bothers me is the player was allowed to decide our future not or GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, LouCifer said: Interesting, there are no clauses indicated on that contract. They generally don't get [posted right away. Obviously, I was kidding about this. He is part of their future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, travel_dude said: They generally don't get [posted right away. Obviously, I was kidding about this. He is part of their future. Oh I know. St. Loo likely wants to have Thomas play with Chucky considering their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, LouCifer said: Oh I know. St. Loo likely wants to have Thomas play with Chucky considering their history. Not helping out STL unless they overpay for Tkachuk. Unfortunately, I think we will blow the load on Kadri. A playoff performer, but we have huge holes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 One way to somewhat salvage the Johnny Gaudreau situation is to take JVR off of Philly’s hands and charge them a good piece to free up their cap for him. It essentially works out to be a trade of Johnny for JVR + 1st rounder? Better than Johnny for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JTech780 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Meloche is a 6’3” RHS D 24 years old. Probably replaces Stone on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, LouCifer said: One way to somewhat salvage the Johnny Gaudreau situation is to take JVR off of Philly’s hands and charge them a good piece to free up their cap for him. It essentially works out to be a trade of Johnny for JVR + 1st rounder? Better than Johnny for nothing. That trade only happens if JH signs there. And I'm not sure Philly does that; there were already balking at it. It's unfortunate that BT is so slow off the mark. Trochek and Copp were had for reasonable amounts. Maybe a bit long for Trochek but whatever. Instead he signs a guy that would be a end of month signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, JTech780 said: Meloche is a 6’3” RHS D 24 years old. Probably replaces Stone on the depth chart. As long as the new deal is like Stone's, fine. He wasn't qualified by SJS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac70 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, travel_dude said: That trade only happens if JH signs there. And I'm not sure Philly does that; there were already balking at it. It's unfortunate that BT is so slow off the mark. Trochek and Copp were had for reasonable amounts. Maybe a bit long for Trochek but whatever. Instead he signs a guy that would be a end of month signing. With whats happeing it appears he didn't have a backup plan in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouCifer Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, travel_dude said: That trade only happens if JH signs there. And I'm not sure Philly does that; there were already balking at it. It's unfortunate that BT is so slow off the mark. Trochek and Copp were had for reasonable amounts. Maybe a bit long for Trochek but whatever. Instead he signs a guy that would be a end of month signing. I was expecting JH to sign in NJ fairly quickly after UFA started. With no cap constraints, the fact that he hasn’t tells me that he’s waiting on Philly. That’s my hunch. So, we can salvage by helping make it happen. Then we circle back to NJ and talk Tkachuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTech780 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Who needs skill we have heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 So we re-signed Lewis. No big surprise there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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travel_dude Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 This doesn't sound like the start of a rebuild. No kidding. It's the all-grit roster a coming. There are lots of players that didn't get qualified that are better than Rooney. I guess about the only thing we can expect if signing Kadri to 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac70 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, travel_dude said: So we re-signed Lewis. No big surprise there. WOW Tre knocking it out of the park, Loses a 115 point player to sign 3 bottom end place holders sounds, trending in the wrong direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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