Carty Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 The Flames have traded a 7th round pick in 2019 for Nick Shore... Now we know why the Flames were scouting the Sens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersMan Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 A probable 4th line center for us next season in exchange for a 7th round draft pick. I thought Shore played well against us when he was a King. Hard to dislike that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Decent move. Hard to get too excited because while he has some good traits he similar to Stajan in that he really struggles to produce offence. Treliving seems to think there is more there so hopefully he is right otherwise your back to a 4th line center that can't score. However, he does have very encouraging numbers in terms of his ability to affect possession and offense so that is a positive given that the 4th line generally gets its teeth kicked in. Would also be great if he could get his Faceoffs back to where they were when he stated his career as he was quite good then, not as much now. Biggest potential could lie on the PK. Treliving called him a good PKer, I haven't seen enough to comment, which if true would be a pretty big help. Have not been a bit fan of Stajan on the PK, nor Brouwer since he came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis1891 Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Well, if he replaces Stajan to begin next year then I'll consider it a big win. Can't complain about a 7th rounder when you get an NHL'er back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Can we consider Stewart and Shore acquisitions dumpster diving? Somebody had to ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Flames top end looks great. Gaudreau is one of the top offensive players in the league, Monahan is proving to be an elite goal scorer, and Tkachuk may very project to be the best of them. Backlund is a good second line centre and Frolik is fine. It would be nice to add a RH shot or two, maybe a little size, and someone for the top line. But that's a young top 6 at a budget price. Looks good going into the future. But the bottom 6 is terrible. Brouwer and Stajan get paid way to much to do too little. Lazar, Hathaway, and the rest of the fill ins are replacement level at best. Versteeg is fine for the half of a season he plays. The only real glimmer is Jankowski and Bennett. Not because they have played great, but because there is some potential there. In the long run it would be nice to update the top 6 and see Frolik and Ferland trickle down. But taking chances on guys like Stewart and Shore are fine low risk plays. I would rather take a shot at the next Versteeg then spending a bunch of assets and cap on the next Brouwer. Plus, we added to RH shots and some flexibility to help with the four recall rule. Safe and no cost moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC923 Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Good on PK and a right handed shot? Does this mean no more Brouwer taking draws on the PK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrox Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 hours ago, ABC923 said: Good on PK and a right handed shot? Does this mean no more Brouwer taking draws on the PK? We can dream. Basically, if we do re-sign Nick Shore, we basically have a younger cheaper (and probably speedier) Stajan. I'm okay with that on a 7th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tribal Chief Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Personally I hope so But im Impressed with what The flames did With the Prices out there the prices were High so i feel we did what we could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 3:36 PM, Davis1891 said: Well, if he replaces is an upgrade to Stajan to begin next year then I'll consider it a big win. Can't complain about a 7th rounder when you get an NHL'er back. fixed that for you. We need to improve not stand still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I don't really have any problem with Shore's game, might be a perfect replacement for Stajan. Stewart on the other hand really should know how to take a pass at this point of his career, maybe I'll give him an out and call it nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, conundrumed said: I don't really have any problem with Shore's game, might be a perfect replacement for Stajan. Stewart on the other hand really should know how to take a pass at this point of his career, maybe I'll give him an out and call it nerves. Stewart is a swing and miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, conundrumed said: I don't really have any problem with Shore's game, might be a perfect replacement for Stajan. Stewart on the other hand really should know how to take a pass at this point of his career, maybe I'll give him an out and call it nerves. I thought they sat the wrong guy. Stewart wasn't bad, but didn't do anything great other than knocking over McD. He drew a penalty. He looks like he's asleep some shifts. Shore was good, but would have preferred to see him used as a winger. Use him as spare C, in case Janko or whomever gets tossed. Bennett-Janko-Shore Without Chucky, but Versteeg back in: Versteeg-Janko-Shore With Chucky and Versteeg: Bennett-Janko-Versteeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, travel_dude said: Shore was good, but would have preferred to see him used as a winger. Use him as spare C, in case Janko or whomever gets tossed. Shore was only 33% on the dot last night, so he might be better used as a winger... But if he can improve his FO % , he might be a good replacement for Stajan as a 4th line C... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC923 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Carty said: Shore was only 33% on the dot last night, so he might be better used as a winger... But if he can improve his FO % , he might be a good replacement for Stajan as a 4th line C... Can't place too much emphasis on a single night. He's played 2 games for us, and owns a 53% rate in the dot over those two games, which means he was equally incredible the game before. His career rate in the dot is a bit over 50%, being somewhat dragged down by this year, but not too shabby. He'd be better than most on our team if he can sustain those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 At the end of this season, Shore will be a RFA with arbitration rights. That said, I doubt the Flames give him more than the required 105% qualifying offer = $971.25k. That's not a bad price for a 4th line C/RW, that can occasionally move up to the 3rd. His skating is better than I had heard and I've really liked his fore-checking so far. I had forgotten how he helped make the LAKs a pain to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Carty said: Shore was only 33% on the dot last night, so he might be better used as a winger... But if he can improve his FO % , he might be a good replacement for Stajan as a 4th line C... I see him as a replacement for Brouwer, after the Flames buy him out. I hated playing against him as a King. I think he's a better player than some of our current guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, 420since1974 said: At the end of this season, Shore will be a RFA with arbitration rights. That said, I doubt the Flames give him more than the required 105% qualifying offer = $971.25k. That's not a bad price for a 4th line C/RW, that can occasionally move up to the 3rd. His skating is better than I had heard and I've really liked his fore-checking so far. I had forgotten how he helped make the LAKs a pain to play against. That's exactly the price. We desperately need to get away from 8+ million 4th lines. It's something that has kept us from getting better in the top 6. Time to lose the handcuffs if we're going to improve in the forward ranks. Bad enough BT is over-committing on the back end for all the D prospects we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrox Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 hours ago, ABC923 said: Can't place too much emphasis on a single night. He's played 2 games for us, and owns a 53% rate in the dot over those two games, which means he was equally incredible the game before. His career rate in the dot is a bit over 50%, being somewhat dragged down by this year, but not too shabby. He'd be better than most on our team if he can sustain those numbers. If he stays at his career average, he could definitely become a core part of our bottom 6 (which does need a revamp pretty badly). And for the cost (a 7th rounder) and his likely salary (~1 mil) that isn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC331 Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, conundrumed said: That's exactly the price. We desperately need to get away from 8+ million 4th lines. It's something that has kept us from getting better in the top 6. Time to lose the handcuffs if we're going to improve in the forward ranks. Bad enough BT is over-committing on the back end for all the D prospects we have. Maybe our 4th line next season should be Bennett, Shore and Lazar, 3Cs that can really motor but don't belong in the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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