conundrumed Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Uh D Sutter took the Flames to the 7th game of SC Finals. You think he doesn't know how to coach a team all the way? Kings look like a machine out there, up 3-0 over a very good Blues team. They could sweep them. Honestly from watching the Kings games, that team looks like a Cup team. I don't care where they finished in the standings. They have all the pieces. Solid G. Solid D, elite D man in Doughty, two way forwards in Carter and Richards / elite skill in Kopitar / they got it all… As long as they stay healthy… But if they keep the series they play up to the Cup short, winning out in 4-5 games. They will be rested and ready to take on whoever in the Cup Final / Conference Final. Don't get me wrong, I had a healthy respect for LA coming into this one. I'm cheering for St Loo, but wow, LA is absolutely tenacious on puck pursuit at both ends. It was too much for Van, it's too much for St. Louis. I'm humbled, but they also said Halak would be back by game 2, so it's a shame he can't play in the tandem that got them here. But LA, yeah, I can't say enough about they're smothering play. And I'm not saying Halak is the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zirakzigil Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 The Kings will beat the Blues, but do they have what it takes to beat the Preds or Yotes? Im not sure about that. My pick is still the Preds coming out of the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conundrumed Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 The Kings will beat the Blues, but do they have what it takes to beat the Preds or Yotes? Im not sure about that. My pick is still the Preds coming out of the west. Say goodnight to your PP. LA's pursuit on PK is surreal and scoring threat, well, you almost have to presume that you'll give up a couple. That's what I see, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crzydrvr Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Most of the playoff series have been tight. But the way LA has torn their opponents a new one through the playoffs so far....you've gotta feel like they have a shot. First 8th seeded team to win the Cup? Not a bad bet IMO. For a team that has limped through most of the season, they finally turned it on. Everyone is a contributor, everyone has stepped up (even the likes of the underachievers Drew Doughty and Dustin Penner have been major contributors for the Kings) and they just so happen to be riding the most clutch goaltender in the NHL. No other team has really dominated any series; LA has now ripped apart two straight. And against the President's Trophy winners and the 2nd seeded team, no less. Dammit, Darryl never should have left the bench, he deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Kings prepared and focused. Still the best coach in the league at making an impact on a new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame111 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 The Kings will beat the Blues, but do they have what it takes to beat the Preds or Yotes? Im not sure about that. My pick is still the Preds coming out of the west. Wow I am really surprised to hear you say that. On paper and before the playoffs started I would have been fine with that but watching as many games as I can, I am calling the Kings to go all the way. That team is totally composed, Quick is playing great, they have huge discipline and are playing a complete solid team game. They have the perfect balance of playoff experience there with the additions of Carter, Richards, Mitchell, have an elite scorer in Kopitar, elite D man in Doughty, Brown as the hitter, impact player, guy draws a ton of penalties and never loses his cool doing it. The missing link was the coach to take them to the next level and they got it now with D Sutter. ______________ The Preds in contrast I think upset their room balance with Radulov & Kostitsyn. They have not looked as strong as I expected them to be. Rinne looks emotional when he loses and honestly, I pick the Yotes to win the current series and get past them to the Conf Final. The Yotes are playing a great team game now too - strong forecheck is frustrating the Preds. B Sutter must be watching it like he watches porn, the Yotes / Kings style is what he has tried to get out of Calgary for 3 years. Yotes / Kings Conf Final - Kings win and Kings beat anyone out of the East for their first Cup ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Most of the playoff series have been tight. But the way LA has torn their opponents a new one through the playoffs so far....you've gotta feel like they have a shot. First 8th seeded team to win the Cup? Not a bad bet IMO. For a team that has limped through most of the season, they finally turned it on. Everyone is a contributor, everyone has stepped up (even the likes of the underachievers Drew Doughty and Dustin Penner have been major contributors for the Kings) and they just so happen to be riding the most clutch goaltender in the NHL. No other team has really dominated any series; LA has now ripped apart two straight. And against the President's Trophy winners and the 2nd seeded team, no less. Dammit, Darryl never should have left the bench, he deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Kings prepared and focused. Still the best coach in the league at making an impact on a new team. I'm rooting for LA to emerge from the west. & if the east send anyone but the Flyers to face them I'd like LA to hoist the Cup. Remember this #8 seed was a #3 during part of the last month of the season. The top 3 in the Pacific finished with 97,96 & 95 points with all making the playoffs. They took down #1 western seed & seem well on the way to besting #2. If they win & get the Coyotes they get the #3 they might have started as. But I'm also surprised that even Penner is playing well. Did Sutter put a remote controlled cattle prod down his shorts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 The Preds in contrast I think upset their room balance with Radulov & Kostitsyn. Radulov had 9 regular season games with the Preds. Andrei Kostitsyn had 19. Not a huge part of team chemistry. Letting them go unpunished for blatantly breaking rules the team lived by all season would harm balance more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame111 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Radulov had 9 regular season games with the Preds. Andrei Kostitsyn had 19. Not a huge part of team chemistry. Letting them go unpunished for blatantly breaking rules the team lived by all season would harm balance more. But it is a distraction nonetheless. Look at the intensity and focus Sutter demands. This struck me as a very Darryl story when he went to it on Doughty during thea game. Doughty is only taking a few minutes, imagine the distraction differential with Rad and Kost for the Preds, the media, the room, players coming in to replace and them trying to do too much maybe etc. http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/05/04/sutter-pushes-the-right-buttons-for-players/ D Sutter is doing the same thing for the Kings he did for the Flames in 2004 and this time he has a much better team under his command. I'm calling it and I know it is early but I am calling the Cup for the Kings... __________ Well I agree with you that it is correct to give Rad and Kost the bench / press box for breaking team rules, it also unfortunately creates a unavoidable distraction for the rest of the team. Bottom line - did Rad & Kost end up being a positive or negative impact on the Preds post-season? If they are not scoring and contributing on ice, I would argue they ended up being negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 But it is a distraction nonetheless. Look at the intensity and focus Sutter demands. This struck me as a very Darryl story when he went to it on Doughty during thea game. Doughty is only taking a few minutes, imagine the distraction differential with Rad and Kost for the Preds, the media, the room, players coming in to replace and them trying to do too much maybe etc. http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/05/04/sutter-pushes-the-right-buttons-for-players/ D Sutter is doing the same thing for the Kings he did for the Flames in 2004 and this time he has a much better team under his command. I'm calling it and I know it is early but I am calling the Cup for the Kings... __________ Well I agree with you that it is correct to give Rad and Kost the bench / press box for breaking team rules, it also unfortunately creates a unavoidable distraction for the rest of the team. Bottom line - did Rad & Kost end up being a positive or negative impact on the Preds post-season? If they are not scoring and contributing on ice, I would argue they ended up being negative. It would have been a distraction if they were allowed to play after a blatant disregard for the team & it's rules. It would have been a slap in the face to those that heeded the rules. Trotz is a tough taskmaster that lays out the ground rules before hand so ignoring them without penalty would have resulted in him losing credibility. Trotz had the team in the playoffs before either of the 2 arrived & is more valuable to the Preds then the 2 of them are. They picked the wrong guy to test if they figured their value exceeded his the respect the rest of the team gives him. The point is made & both will be on a tight leash but it sounds like they'll play next game. Trotz wants to win but knows they can only win as a team. 2 individuals not being on the same page weakens the overall. Andrei Kostitsyn & Radulov were a negative impact. What Barry did was a positive & bodes well regardless of the outcome of this series. Suter & Weber both saw a principled man that wants to win but will not screw over the players that feel the same because of a player (or 2) that doesn't seem to care as much. BTW, I expect Poile to see what he can get for their rights once the season ends. If Andrei doesn't garner offers he's UFA. Rad's RFA rights might get something. I'd be surprised to see either start the year in Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carty Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Wow... The Kings sweep the series... They are on a roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invin Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 #1 and #2 seeds? Pfft, relax, we got this. I think I'm starting to like the Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I'll stay with the Kings to win but expect more of a challenge. Kings in 7. Dang! Wrong again. The Canucks won 1 game. Wow... The Kings sweep the series... They are on a roll... Brown has impressed the heck out of me! WOW! Hits, scores & leads by example. & Sutter has his team buying in & they are ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zirakzigil Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Im not surprised they won, only mildly surprised they swept. Im still thinking the Preds can beat them, if they make it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerfan52 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Im not surprised they won, only mildly surprised they swept. Im still thinking the Preds can beat them, if they make it that far. That's the WF I'm hoping to see as it seems like it would be 1 heck of a series. There is a lot I like about the Preds (including the best coach & top GM in the league) but will naturally be rooting for the Flyers West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zirakzigil Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 That's the WF I'm hoping to see as it seems like it would be 1 heck of a series. There is a lot I like about the Preds (including the best coach & top GM in the league) but will naturally be rooting for the Flyers West. Nothing against you personally, but I think your Flyers are toast. Sadly the Preds got knocked out tonight and I dont see the Yotes having what it takes to beat the Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I kind of wanted St.Louis to win so we can laugh at the Canucks for losing to a loser but instead, it's looking increasingly likely that the Canucks have lost to the Cup champs 2 seasons in a row. That's not a bad feat and is nothing to be ashamed of. It would mean they didn't take any steps back this season despite losing in the first round. I really want the Canucks to panic and trade away everybody but the more the Kings win, the better the Canucks season ends up being, and the less likely it will be for them to make changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_worthy Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I kind of wanted St.Louis to win so we can laugh at the Canucks for losing to a loser but instead, it's looking increasingly likely that the Canucks have lost to the Cup champs 2 seasons in a row. That's not a bad feat and is nothing to be ashamed of. It would mean they didn't take any steps back this season despite losing in the first round. I really want the Canucks to panic and trade away everybody but the more the Kings win, the better the Canucks season ends up being, and the less likely it will be for them to make changes. There might be some legitimacy to this (if the Kings do win), if it weren't for the fact that the Nucks never even put up a fight. If it were an epic, 7 game bashfest and the Kings prevailed, then ok. But seriously, the Nucks won one game this year. Fifteen last year. To say they haven't regressed is silly. I hope that they do take solace in the (potential) fact that the Kings become champs and they decide that they are that close and don't feel the need to do anything to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 There might be some legitimacy to this (if the Kings do win), if it weren't for the fact that the Nucks never even put up a fight. If it were an epic, 7 game bashfest and the Kings prevailed, then ok. But seriously, the Nucks won one game this year. Fifteen last year. To say they haven't regressed is silly. I hope that they do take solace in the (potential) fact that the Kings become champs and they decide that they are that close and don't feel the need to do anything to improve the team. But then again, consider this, Daniel-less and they won 1 game. The Blues were Pietrangelo-less for a bit and won 0 games. What if the Kings sweep the Coyotes and then make a fool of the Rangers/Devils/Caps in the Finals? Suddenly, it would be amazing the Canucks even won 1 game against the Kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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