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The conditions on the 1st were they could trade it up to the 10th…basically the TDL this year and our first slides to 2026

Well, all we can do is wait and see… im still hoping Conroy makes another reasonably size move before the deadline…be it Kadri, Manji or Markstrom…all Are tradable but…no need to so I figure they could gain some good returns…and we have 1 retention slot still available for this year may as well and try and capture some assets on it.

I agree, though 2025 is supposed to be a good and deep draft…2026 has a few intriguing guys: Bedard’s cousin Joe Iginla

Mmm lindholm would be a nice fit in NJD…could free up Mercer for Markstrom? Also I like the Tofolli fit in VCR better than Guentzal just seems like a better fit…no real substance behind it just feel like a better fit Anything is possible…?!

I’m wondering if that’s gonna be LVK? They are in the market for a RW he fits the bill

Car has 3 on waivers…they are making room for something…heard they may also have interest in Markstrom?

Ha ok! So it could be that they extended Hanifin

What’s this even mean? Are they looking for something? It’s pretty vague at best lol

I see your point but…I see it a little differently, most lacklustre returns were team like Cgy, in a must trade position, LVK has been nothing but home runs, the trade that brought Hanifin and Lindholm was not a must trade situation (we’ll fix a bit but he was not the core to that deal) this is why, I really hope, Conroy keeps moving guys….not all at once but over the next couple of years to avoid trading from a position of weakness, tends to generate much better returns… now all that said we can’t fault Conroy, he inherited this mess and managed through it…so no judgement this year just do what needs being done, and checking box he’s done than now… moving forward, this summer and next season will be the judge year for him to see how he manages or if he will attempt to manage trading from a position of strength where it’s not needed to be done but done because he can and it makes sense to do it… again, this year is just clearing the mess up, he did that well…now to see what he has as a GM without handcuffs

I would suggest we do need Ctrs, both Backlund and Kadri are 35 ish or more…Backlund is only signed for another 2 seasons…I’m of the opinion we need 3 young Ctrs…ideally a legit #1 Ctr but I’d settle for 2 high end #2 ctrs… most of Our young Ctrs (drafted or acquired) are better on the wings (Zary Shar for example) also it’s better to have wingers that can play Ctr and have some exp there…especially useful FO’s cause your primary Ctr can be more assertive, if they get the boot your wingers have some experience to take the draw with a better chance to win than a winger who’s never played a reasonable amount of time at Ctr… if we can land 3 Ctrs over the next few years with Shar I think it could great a huge strength and depth, we may not need 3 but better chance at 2 panning out that way…worse case you have far too many good Ctrs…who cares, they are always in demand can always move one to fill a need…look a the Byram trade…draft and develop Ctrs give a better return, they develop faster than D but slower than W’s however they also rerun better than wingers too…kinda the best way to re-build/tool and decrease development time…granted still risky dealing with younger players but targeting Ctrs over all else seems to be the safer and faster route

While I agree, I think Anderson and Weegar can wait another year, no need to rush them out the door, I think moving Manji, Kadri, Markstrom and Coleman should be the next set of priorities…also resign Kylington for 3 years…then the year after look at moving Anderson, Weegar and who knows maybe even Hubie…he may be movable by then huge maybe that one we may be stuck with for another 7 years but…the rest should bring back some decent returns, I just think they need to chip away at it, 2-4 guys each year over the next 2 years …the burn it To the ground thing, I’m not 100% sold on, phased sell off over a 2-3 years I think is best, this gives some evaluation time each year to see how your picks and prospects are trending and then target holes that may be obvious during the transition phase…just my thoughts on it right wrong or indifferent just how I think is the best approach other may disagree

I don’t think summer was the time either, I’m in the boat that they should have moved him the year before, same with Lindholm and a few others… this is why I’d like to see Markstrom, Manji and Coleman also moved this year vice when they get to UFA…they are are entering the final 3rd of their contract which is the prime time to trade, it’s well enough in that the cap impact seem lower than when they first signed it, but also has enough term for team control which gets a better asset return. now I’m not suggesting moving all 3 or even any at this TDL but over the course of the summer and leading into next years TDL is a prime time to capture more and better assets on these players…maybe even Kadri and yes I know, they all have some degree of trade/movement protection but, they are all on the back 1/2 of their careers (Manji may be just approaching the 1/2) but otherwise, these players may be seeking a cup or in the case of Kadri another cup…either way, I think these guys may all be willing to move to a contending team. Also they are having a great rebound year so get what you can for them…the only issue here is both Kadri and Markstrom will need some retention, we only have 1 retention available now…maybe move Markstrom first then Kadri to lower the term of retention but then the risk is Kadri’s play drops…same goes for Markstrom so it’s kind of a gamble, but I’d suggest move Markstrom with the last retention unless a team take Markstrom with no retention, maybe that’s why they wanted no retention on the NJD/ high cost for retention…I mean you could in theory move Markstrom with no retention and then move Kadri with retention…anyways, these guys all need to be considered to be move over the next year 100% to capitalize on the solid play now.

Ok, so with all this talk about Cgy waited too long to trade off guys, I suggested last year that they move guys at TDL and a lot people on here in the bold trade thread said that they wouldn’t get a good return because they were not pending UFA’s… fast forward to now and the returns are not so good…in the future I hope both fans and Mgt keep that in mind. Then, there is also a few other 2000’s issues we had like Jarome in his UFA year, that was a bad return too… Hope in the future Cgy (looking at upper mgt, not Conroy, and ownership for this issue needing to be addressed) Ownership and notes of hockey Mgt need to stop micro managing and let the GM do their job, give them flexibility to work things like 3 years if you don’t like it then get a different GM but the group above the GM need to butt out. having a competitive young core year over year will make the post season far more often than the past 15 years has, the old way of thinking just doesn’t work, proof is in the pudding since 1989 this team has been to the finals only 1 time and TBH that was on the back of 2 guys named Kipper and Iggy. Thats a horrible track record. speaking of…giving how recent returns have been similar to the Iggy UFA year, how long did that take to get a new core in place? All be it that re-tool was rushed, but I suspect we are looking at a similar time frame to rebuild a new young core…granted we do have more picks and prospects that potentially have a higher ceiling than what we got from the 2o13 year down/post Iginla era but currently those picks are looking to be much lower and well out of the top 10 so looking at the balance of the over all good and bad I’d suggest we are looking at 3-4 years to see a new young core..hopefully this time, they don’t bring in a bunch of vets by trading away picks and prospects.

And maybe Tij Iginla this year? it would be the first time we did the brother thing…it’s worked out for other teams over the years…and with the Iginla pedigree why not try it in Cgy?

Also, they are not rebuilding but first rounders are a priority? We are in a fill rebuild just not a total fire sale rebuild, a phased but UFA forced rebuild

Hard to say, looking as some his highlights, and if he recovers from the injuries, he could blossom and rival Hanifin next year…oddly he’d be the sam age next year as Hanifin is this year…long shot but highlights show he could be

Hopefully this is just a troll…hard no on Parayko too old Now for the team direction makes no sense

Well crapy return, got pinched by Hanifin and his agent but at least it’s more than what we got for Gaudreau… and Conroy did get some draft capital, and some young guys…prospects seem hard to pry way this year, bad economy seems to filter into hockey too, everyone want something for nothing, least we got a little something and as someone else Said, now we are in a different situation where we can trade but don’t need to trade…Also we have cleared out a fair bit of BT’s hand on this team less Kadri, Hubie and Weegar…not all of which we should be looking to unload or can but there is room for Conroy to put his stamp on this team…a few steps back…if he lands a solid D in the draft and Tij I think things will look good and if a few of the prospects we picked up pan out Eve if only 1 then we could see a god team in 2-3 years

Meh, 2025 first is good, projected to be a good draft… 2026 has beard’s cousin in it, could be a good draft and maybe LVK has a win year… either way, still a first round pick.

Conditions are the 3rd upgrades to a 2nd if LVK win a playoff round

This is true, has endstrom been in there then we would have had a good return, this is junk…we’ll bare minimum to be honest with a lot more hope on the picks…endstrom would have been ideal

Good so Hanifin was the last of his players…good!

No the Hanifin camp “i want to go to TB” is the cause of the the low Return…if I’m Conroy I deal with no player tip Bris. As the agent ever again…this agent keeps screwing us!

Oh wow! sarcasm intended lol

No but with retention yes