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1 hour ago, CheersMan said:
Not sure what the record is but he has to be close. Miss the days when Peter Mahr used to give us those daily interesting tid-bits. It goes beyond that, Elliott is 14-1-1 in his last 16 games. Last night he was one giveaway from getting his 3rd SO in 4 games. His last 9 games average 0.957 SA%, possibly the hottest GT’er in the galaxy right now. The million-dollar dilemma is how do you keep him dialed in without burning him out while you have a competent backup on the bench? You don’t win SC’s in games 72-82, you win them in 4th round of the playoffs, potentially 38 games from now.
It is really too bad Brodie screwed up last night.
About two minutes before that I said to my dad, the D better start playing for Elliott now.
I could see see a touch of complacency come into the game in the 3rd. I didn't feel like they'd lose, but the play changed.
Too bad, Elliott deserved the shutout.
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Just now, Carty said:
Edmonton got a new arena in the same economic conditions, the city participated and is already reaping the benefits of revitalization in the area, and that benefit to the city and it's tax base will only continue to grow...
Didn't they have a portion of the Game and Entertainment revenue set to go back into the governments pockets?
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15 minutes ago, rickross said:
Well..they've tied the franchise win streak record. There's no way BT goes unsigned
If he doesn't, another team will scoop him up for sure!
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56 minutes ago, redfire11 said:
Yes A BIG SHOUT OUT for a shut out tonight.
Oh boy!!!!
The mob is waiting...
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3 minutes ago, JTech780 said:
Kulak is injured.
As Cross mentioned in another thread Andersson only gets in if we are down both Hamilton and Stone. Andersson was called up on emergency basis, meaning that he only gets in if we don't have enough healthy bodies.
After the trade deadline you only get 4 call ups for the rest of the year, Andersson being on emergency basis means he doesn't use up one of those call ups.
I wonder if Hamilton will play. They might keep it safe by sitting him to heal the cut. Cuts are dangerous with hockey gear - infection...
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2 minutes ago, zima said:
Wow bringing up Andersson I bet Kulak is not happy I bet he thought it would be him being brought up since he has been in the top 1or 2 in the heats organization. Any Im pretty excited to see what Rasmus can do in the NHL hope he makes his day bebut a success. Go Rasmus Go
Yesterday when Kerr was talking to Francis, Kerr said Kulak is injured.
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Elliott: 4M/yr x 3yrs?
Johnson: 2M/yr x 2 years?
That would be starter money between the two and keep the tending $$ down for a bit while we transition.
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How much are we willing to pay a tandem to start?
Bishop wanted over 6m.
How much would we sign Elliott and Johnson for for about 2-3 years?
Elliott for 3 years
Johnson for 2 years
thoughts?
By then, our young goalies would be ready to push for spots. Who knows how long it will take for them to?
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28 minutes ago, MAC331 said:
A lot of development is mental as these players have the physical talents. They may need some more muscle and weight to apply their talents at the NHL level however they have to come to grips with the position they will play. Many players such a Shinkaruk or even Poirier who were big scorers in Junior will level out as 3rd liners but they have to mentally adjust to being more defensive. There is no shame in being this type of player, the NHL is a job and you will get paid handsomely no matter what, keep your head on straight and always be trying to improve your game.
I agree. How many people get paid hundreds of thousands a year, let alone over 100,000?
in ECHL Burrows was making 450.00/week.
How many of us would love to do even that?
In vancouver, beer league hockey fees are about 900.00 for 30 games plus a guaranteed 2 playoff games. I would take what Burrows got to play.
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1 hour ago, Khrox said:
I'm really hoping we extend Tre sooner rather than later. I assume they are waiting until playoffs for now, but I really doubt that we are getting a GM better than him coming along.
He has made some mistakes (Raymond was definitely a year too long), but at the same time, any first time GM is going to make mistakes. Any GM, regardless of experience, makes mistakes (anyone remember the Martin Erat and Michael Latta for Filip Forsberg trade?). But overall, Tre has been pretty good. The Engelland signing was little expensive, but he has worked out pretty darn well for us (and the expense was probably necessary to get a few more free agents to come to Calgary at the time. We weren't exactly expecting to make the playoffs that year, or projected to be anywhere close to it). Bollig was a sideways move. The Bouma signing wasn't great, but the Monahan and Gaudreau signings were far better than expected. The Dougie trade and signing was grade A. Frolik was a solid pickup. Elliot and Johnson, were good moves. Even bringing in Hiller was good at the time (sure his second year was crap, but I don't think anyone saw him being anywhere near as bad as he was that year). The Gio signing is yet to be really seen. It looked good at the time, still looks alright, but the last half we will see. GG has been a pretty good pickup as coach. The first 15-20 are rough, but anytime there is a coaching change (and especially with a completely different style) is going to take a bit of getting used to. But, overall, he has been far more beneficial to our rebuild than not. Including the draft. Sure Tkachuk and Bennett were sort of "no-brainers" at that point, but look at the depth moves. Kylington, Andersson, Mangiapane and Parsons? Those were good second+ round picks that could have gone a different way. I'd say he has earned it.I wish we traded Glencross for Forsberg instead of them going for Erat. I always wonder if that could have been done. Imagine what Washington would look like now with Forsberg on their team.
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43 minutes ago, rickross said:
This will likely be the case, maybe we stumble upon some gem that turns out to be our next "Kipper" in the next few years. For now, our goalie situation could be much worse. Elliot has really played well recently but still not convinced he's our true #1. I think Bishop is a good goalie and he'll really steady the Kings net situation but I was always a bit worried with his injury history.
For me, the cost is the most important factor. Was Bishop going to cost us too much to acquire? And how much would he cost $$$?
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5 minutes ago, rickross said:
Unless Elliot backstops us to a deep playoff run I can't see him getting any more than $3.5M, i'm comfortable with that price. I can see CJ signing for no more than $2M, with a good chance we get a home town discount. Hopefully we can see Gillies, Parsons and Rittich push for a role in the near future. I still hope Gillies pans out but I do think the real gem is in Parsons.
I think we still need a stop gap for one of the youth to step up. We might need to find someone to come in for about 3 years
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3 hours ago, conundrumed said:
I haven't been against our goalies too much all year. It almost seems like the fix is in with the 2D additions and not having Wideman playing with his skate guards on 20 min/gm.
Goalies have bad games, even the best ones. But I think a lot of it has been the team more than the Gs.
Our G isn't a problem when the team shows up, imho.
THIS! is what I say and why I defend the goalies. When the team shows up, the goalies play better too.
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8 minutes ago, tmac70 said:
The 1st trip to the playoffs was by your words a fluke and had nothing to do with Trevling. You have also stated that this team is average at best which is on Trevling. Trevling has picked 4th and 6th, both Bennett and Chucky were no rocket science picks.
Hamilton and contracts of our key guys are good, Bouma, Stajan, Brower, Engeland were bad. The blue print yeah what is that? I thought he wanted bigger, harder to play against, not even close. I agree on 2 points, he has not been bad but he also has done nothing that has solidified him as GM of the year either.
He also traded a first to get Hamilton and then maybe nailed the later round picks, yet to see.
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44 minutes ago, cross16 said:
Treliving has his mistakes no doubt but they are all minor.
Raymond
bouma- which he quickly leaned from and didn't repeat with Colborne.
A 2 year deal for Hiller.
I think the Brouwer contract will be a mistake but at the end of the day I can see why he wanted to add that leadership element. I'm not in the room so I can't say this is a mistake if I don't know what Brouwer impact there has been.
I also don't consider Bolig a mistake. A 3rd in a non deep draft for a guy who kept your young stars safe for 2 season really isn't a mistake imo.
If those are your mistakes in 3 season you deserve an extension.
I did see a difference in how teams treated the Flames after both Bollig and Engelland were signed.
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For me, the biggest thing would be is, from upper management, are the Flames playing a brand of hockey they want to play?
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I predicted Raymond falling off. I hated that acquisition from the moment anyone on this message board suggested signing him. That was before BT got him.
He was always a soft streaky player who overachieved in one season.
Engelland wasn't a mistake. He is slightly overpaid, but even this season, he was our best defender for the first 20 games and is still playing well.
My ideas for his mistakes are:
Raymond
Bollig
Bouma
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5 minutes ago, MAC331 said:
We only see the surface stuff and not whether he works hard behind the scenes however he has done some good here. Outside of Bouma I think he has done a good job keeping contracts in a good place. He has put together some decent trades gathering picks and using picks to obtain players like Hamilton and Elliott. You never bat 1000 as a GM but I think he has the team in good shape and heading in a good direction. I think this franchise needs to settle in with these changes and not be making any more management changes or coaching changes for a while.
I only wonder, does his plan seem to be apparent? Burke wants a heavy, in your face team. I don't see that yet.
Other posters have pointed to stats saying we are a hitting team. I don't buy that we are imposing. We aren't fully soft, but there was that talk on redemption for Geaudreau from the fans and media. I'm that sense, I almost consider us soft. Up until recently we rarely ever make the other team pay when they take extra whacks at the puck on our goalies, or even slightly bump them. So I still think we are soft in those departments.
Cant say that isnt isn't allowed anymore, we are always on our back when we do it.
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26 minutes ago, AlbertaBoy12 said:
I think the big question with GMs always is if they arent doing anything stupid what exactly does a guy like lombardi do that is such a huge upgrade? A gm isent like a coach where you are going to get some huge upgrade. A GMs job is to manage the cap, make sound trades and help the team get better players for the coach to do his job. I think the arguement would be has BT done a good job with those things. BT was an upgrade on feaster because he wasnt the greatest hockey mind, but is someone like lombardi going to be a huge upgrade, I dont see why.
BT has made some good trades, the hamilton one comes to mind first and foremost obviously, but even the russell trade was a good one. Has he made some mistakes ie the signing of engelland or brouwer sure, but these arent big mistakes and really they arent costing the team anything at this point.
A GM is someone you can keep around for years if he has a plan and isent doing anything dumb, bowman in chicago has made some dumb choices, but he just keeps trucking along because hes winning cups. But some of his choices havent been very smart ie giving Bickell big money.
From the last paragraph, maybe that is the point. What is BT's plan?
Has he worked to it, or is it visible so far? Do we know where this team is headed?
From what I see, BT is a way better Feaster. We've seen a lot of skill in the moves and hardly any weight (size). We hit, but aren't really an imposing team just yet, and aren't hard to play against.
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39 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
A lotto pick win (yes they won it over EDM and VAN) is not turning around a franchise. Some years that lotto pick is the best player in a number of years.
Toronto has a lot to prove beyond the regular season success to date. So does EDM.
Definitely, but the best players help.
toews and Kane were drafted 1 & 2.
doughty very high too. Crosby #1. Malkin...
in the last 6 years alone those teams have a first two overall picks.
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11 minutes ago, cross16 said:
Can debate semantics if we want but for me if you are not renewing someone's contract you are firing them.
Or just letting them go. Either way, I think they're not really placing confidence.
Is the organization really thinking we should be even further in the build?
toronto turned it around fast after Burke left. We didn't tear down completely so we still won enough to not get a 1st or 2nd overall pick. That really usually pushes a build up. Monahan is good, but not Matthews good.
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9 minutes ago, DirtyDeeds said:
Word on Fan 960 is the Flames want to get away from the offering of extensions too early to be able to get away from situations like "paying BH for sitting at home for another year".
Edit: as for being pissed if they let him walk.. That would depend on who his replacement was wouldn't it?
It sounds like online dating to me, keeping someone just at arms length away, just enough until someone better comes along. There's always someone better!
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4 minutes ago, JTech780 said:
So I heard on the radio the other day that Dean Lombardi was on the last year of his contract as well.
I wonder if Calgary is waiting to give Treliving a contract to see what other options appear such as Lombardi.
Do you or does anyone else think that Lombardi has a similar philosophy of how Burke wants the team to play?
I think it is possible, but then again, I do have mixed feelings on how Treliving has done, but mostly like it so far.
The growing pains of being a GM showed early. But I think his strengths have been in trades and negotiating with players within our system, minus Bouma (an example of one of the growing pains).
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2 hours ago, AlbertaBoy12 said:
I read that as well, I've asked people I know who aren't flames fans about penalties and they have literally said whys that a penalty. I don't think their is a conspiracy theory by refs, but I do think the refs need to do a better job, there is way too many poor calls across the league, and the refs lack consistency.
I know what you mean. But playing beer league, I know we got the worst calls when we complained. Because we had the same 4-6 refs they knew our team were whiners, so a penalty was never the same on both sides.
Thats where they should take emoyion out and hust call any infraction a penalty and teams will try not to. It was really the unfairness that makes it feel worse. I think that's probably more what is happening. Gaudreau gets slash, he complains and the refs take acception to that.
The Official Calgary Flames "New Arena" thread
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Who else thinks the stadium proposals are ugly designs?
Maybe that is why the governments involved don't want anything to do with them? ?