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Ummm so can every team not be last place in the league? What does it take to make every team make the playoffs, make every team not last place in the league in the same year? That's not possible.... there has to be some teams not making the playoffs, some teams in the very bottom. Its unavoidable.

Take back a Chabot or Hamonic to make the money work? Or another cap dump. I guess it sucks we had to give a 1st to get rid of Monahan... horrible deal. but I guess would that work? This is just for fun and convo, by the way...

I guess it costs a lot to get that pick

Prefacing, the Flames won't be doing a full tear down rebuild, otherwise, I don't think Conroy goes after guys who can play now. If we trade Andersson, what is Andersson worth? Is he not worth a decent 1st rounder?

I agree with the desire for Changed behaviour, plus, to think just because most other teams or GM's do it so it is normal. Why be normal? Do things that "work" for this team, not the 20 other teams that have problems maintaining their systems.

It depends on whether the Oilers continue to get Regular Season Reffing or if they start to move toward Playoff Reffing.

makes sense! Divide that up and that's 3-4 very good depth players that win cups.

injuries sometimes drop good teams to lotto, and some of those teams, once out, they're checked out.

Looks like Dallas is going to win. 5 min left.

I'm kind of tired of getting guys who have to work on skating, or they tend to be small, just want guys who don't need to concentrate on having to build as a skater. I think it keeps our team full of pluggers. While gaining NHLers, we aren't getting super top end talent, enough required to compete for cups.

Johnny was able to play the same D right away. He did it one year and then not again until Sutter arrived. I think in the d zone he's always been bad but he could always pressure the puck out back check

only way to keep the player is if he wants to stay in Calgary. All depends on their ask in relation to our ask.

And, Conroy did say they were looking at what is available in UFA. I doubt ownership would be into it, but I'd love for the Flames to get assets for being a cap dump for some teams that want to give up assets to get some cap relief.

If we were able to deal Markstrom, that opens up a bit of cash, on top of what we currently have available, there is room to cash in. is stamkos and Sharingovitch very different? Does Stamkos have game left? I don't wanna sign extra money to a guy and then they struggle to score. We made that mistake before. Not saying he's a James Neal or even Ovi, but Ovi kind of fell off the face of the earth there for a minute.

I don't mean to imply he was a bad player, just that if he wanted to work on his game he maybe could have been more dominating.

I dunno if that's the case all the time, if it was that easy guys would learn it. phaneuf's downfall was that he felt the team should be happy with him as is and he wasn't willing to grow beyond that. if they're willing to learn, or are able to pick it up is one thing, but you waste a pick if they don't catch on. Similar with E. Poirier, he had all kinds of speed, but wasn't able to put it to use. He was a goal scorer, but when shutting it down he had nothing else.

we'd have to trade Vladar as well or buy him in the A

Eric from the Athletic mentions Detroit might be in the market for a goalie. He suggested that Jersey might reengage talks on Markstrom, but if those don't garner results, could Detroit be interested in our Goalie? he suggested Husso and a first could do it. But the flames prefer getting a center in any Markstrom trade. begs to question, which center is out there that can aid a Markstrom return?

Is Heiskanen that much worse than Makar? I think the difference is whether you want a specific kind of D.

yup! But mostly pointing out the quality taken after they took Patrick that year that they missed out on. Still a big blow.

You also have petterson & Necas but those are more hindsight in that draft

I think it's more that they didn't really describe the analytics that I noticed, from the post.

who did they skip on?

It doesn't really say much about their scouting, other than the fact they picked those picks at those draft positions. What were the players rankings? Ok, they draft well. It isn't actually saying what they say, that there is something telling about their picks?

there is also spending assets to compete, trading for Monahan and Toffoli costs a lot. Something the Flames did their last year of those two, Tkachuk and Gaudreau, understanding it was an all-in year. I was excited for the bet. I bought in, understanding that was the chance. I should have known better. I was also hoping Hubie would have shown better. I think Sutter was correct in his assessment of the team, but he also really soured me on the team as well. I get they canned him for it, but I think it went on for too long, the way he treated people and the media. I get it's over. But is it? Or did they can him to save face?