conundrumed

April 26

5 hours ago, jjgallow said:

The only initial thing that jumped out at me as odd, was Yakemchuck at #20. I thought that was a bit more of a bump-down than I expected, and the review was all "rising fast", without any reasoning for why he'd be that low.

You'll notice the reports are all from this year, but not necessarily current. I think they mainly re-did their list and kept reports attached from earlier. Plus, these reports are general summaries, or snippets. They scout for various hockey associations as a business. Like every other org, they aren't NHL scouts. Young guys aiming to be, no doubt. They're a fairly visible group in the scouting world, though. I typically say my hellos at midget tourneys, USNDTP games or occasional Sting games.

I believe what they're saying is the fwds are a decent group, so they needed to bump some dmen down.

Greentree at 6 might be close. He's the one player that I feel whose team has really dragged him down.

Windsor was a god awful team. Hate to imagine his numbers if they had a couple of good forwards to at least alleviate him having to do everything. The write-up is pretty accurate, but he was forced to have to do everything, pretty much alone.

April 26

I'm a bit bias for these guys because I know a few of their scouts from different rinks.

First thing that you'll notice is that they don't follow party lines. They're a good group of guys though and do a fair amount of midget scouting also. So a lot of players aren't new to them.

https://smahtscouting.com/2024/04/07/spring-2024-nhl-draft-rankings-1/

April 26

12 hours ago, The_People1 said:

Is it Henry Mews? Can/should we draft him with our Canucks pick?

Yes, and probably. Ideally, with our 2nd, 41st oa.

I really like Cole Beaudoin's rugged game and wonder if him or Sam O'Reilly can survive until our Dallas pick or 3rd rd. Both sizeable Cs that run on hard work.

April 26

7 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said:

There gonna be three sweeps in round one?

I was so hoping TBay would give FLA a run. More hope than reality. lol

Oh well, I've always like Barkov and Lomberg. It's just the rest that offsets that.

April 26

11 hours ago, sak22 said:

I disagree, Ron's boner for McDavid and the Oilers is far more nauseating.

It's been my pleasure to have not watched the panel as of yet. I'm fine with watching Messier and Subban carry on. I like Bieksa's takes, but not enough to listen to the rest of them. Unfortunately with Toronto, it goes way beyond game time and dominates the news in general. The obsession is real.

We always have traffic here like Grand Central. lol My Leaf fans friends and family are over-the-top emotionally invested. The rest of us have taken to defend whichever of their players they are attacking. Usually Marner. They really clutch their media pearls that they're the Leafs, and every other team is playing Bantam-level hockey. I wish I was kidding. The respect level for their opponents is virtually zero. Wind bag O'Neil was saying that it doesn't matter what D pairings are on the ice, Matthews will destroy them.

Their fans literally buy in to all of that airhead media crap. It's a spectacle how they'll recite total bs like it's true. No team could possibly live up to the Satoshi Nakamoto that their media feeds the fans. 1 win = we're back for real baby. 1 loss = these guys are a nightmare. There is zero balance.

I like to point out the Wings. "You see how heart-breaking just missing the playoffs was? Are you hearing our media pissing and moaning and blaming everyone? Of course you don't, because we don't act like children having a meltdown".

Just get rid of the Leafs already, go cry in the corner, we're sick of listening to you. Go fire and trade everyone.

April 25

4 hours ago, medatswhoP said:

Im torn, I love the Bruins but my heart still goes out to Toronto being a Canadian. Either way this is so far the best series in intensity for me watching these games.

Spare me. lol

Toronto sports is the absolute worst. After they won, it was, "if Marner gets going, the Bruins are in a world of trouble". What they are actually doing, is setting the stage to blame Marner. He's playing through a high ankle sprain, they know that, too, but won't acknowledge it.

Same thing every year. He's always the guy that they want to trade because he's always the red-headed stepchild. I really wish they would trade him.

Then see if everything was his fault.

This coming from someone that isn't exactly a Marner fan. Ex-Knights and I are like oil and water for the most part.

The sooner Toronto is gone, the sooner SNET and CBC will do a better job covering other teams.

onhockey has been fantastic. Use "ublock Origin" adblocker. Your internet provider only has to be 60Mb/s, which is pretty low. I have internet TV and just use an internet browser app. Mind-numbingly simple. I have 3 TVs in my barroom. Looking forward to moving everything outside on the deck though. Hopefully by round 2. A smoker and 2 bbq's are right there. lol

The SNET app and NHL subscription sucked the life out of me with Satoshi Nakamototy service long ago.

April 25

Canada's lines:

Martone-McQueen-McKenna

Elick-Schaeffer

Ritchie-Luchanko-Iginla

Mews-Marrelli

Masse-Josephson-Greentree

Brunicke-Aitcheson

Wetsch-Beaudoin-Spence

Gill

G - Carter George

I believe Vanacker took Greentree's spot, not sure though.

That 1st line are the '25 draft stars.

Cayden Lindstrom was supposed to be on the team, but injured.

April 25

9 minutes ago, sak22 said:

Any relation?

No. Somewhat unbelievably. Not exactly a common name.

edit...

I asked google. Allegedly they're "distant relatives", but no one knows how. lol

Both from Sundsvall. Population about 60,000.

How could they not be?

April 25

Brunicke might want to forget this game and move along...

McQueen likely staring down a kneeing suspension. Too bad, he's looked good. The '25 draft eligible guys look great for Canada. Wallenius, Petterson and Zetterberg have been solid for Sweden.

Tight game, currently 5-3 Canada, end of the 2nd.

Eiserman now 6 goals from tying Caulfield's goal-scoring record after his hatty. I think he had 74 shot attempts. lol

April 25

7 hours ago, travel_dude said:

(I hate using media terms)

For entertainment purposes only. lol

It's so Blockchaining dumb we're left to only laugh, once the shock of the level of stupidity wears off.

"Do your own research", lol.

"Rather than, you know, me revealing my sources and causing myself massive embarrassment".

My fave response is, "show me your library card, or we're not talking about this". Yes. I know some. uggh

The Satoshi Nakamoto they recite is head-shaking.

April 25

4 hours ago, jjgallow said:

Often we see and hear about players who have great "vision".

It's not well defined. But....I think it should be a major factor in rankings. Maybe higher than skating and shot. After all, best player to ever play the game relied almost entirely on this.

I feel like some players have it and others don't. That it's not very teachable.

Or probably more accurately, we don't yet know how to teach it effectively. If there are coaches who are exceptions to this rule, we should definitely hire them lol

I remember looking into this with others quite some time ago. I was quite shocked to see studies.

Imo, it can be improved by optometrists focusing on what you want to accomplish, how to train your eyes type-thing. But it still comes down to how quickly you can process, or more generally, hockey IQ. Then your teammates kinda feed off of what you're doing.

I was quite taken aback at how no stone gets left unturned in studies, though.

https://www.ovpjournal.org/uploads/2/3/8/9/23898265/3-2-5.pdf

April 25

3 hours ago, The_People1 said:

/s = sarcasm

So, to review, /s means sarcasm.

e.g. "I don't mind if it takes 10 years". Sarcastic response: "That sounds like an awesome plan, we're only the careers of our current prospects away!!".

April 24

1 hour ago, The_People1 said:

Willing to invest in a 10 year rebuild is no longer considered a fan of a team?

Oh gawd, here we go...

I clearly indicated sarcasm.

Tell me about real fans, in case I missed that nonsense awhile back. I live in Ontario. We have overseas fans.

I'm sure we need to be divisive on what a fan is again. /s

April 24

12 minutes ago, cross16 said:

even if all you get is a 5th

I get what you're saying, but you've got to do better than that. He has history in the league that's more worth than a fifth.

We shouldn't be having to give him away. Losing trades, just because, shouldn't be on the agenda. Some form of decent prospect and a 5th. But just a 5th? That's horrible asset mgmt. Develop players, give them away. It haunts us a bit.

April 24

7 minutes ago, travel_dude said:

and we should be looking for a similar player.

Nope. We shouldn't. 35 in a contract year, everything else a struggle to 20. Go figure. Hate to inflate size, but someone who can handle playing like he does. To be more punisher than punishee.

I do like Mangiapane, he plays an honest hard-working game. His size defies him quite a bit, and he overcomes that as well as he can.

I agree with you, and not just Backlund. Mangiapane gets open in the high slot quite a bit. He rarely gets the puck, though. He floats just above the dmen and gets to that sweetspot area between the fwds and dmen. He's good at it. He rarely gets the puck though. 20% on a good day, maybe? Unless it's a contract year, apparently.

What I mean is, I don't mind Mangiapane at all. He's just too small for bottom 6. He's not quite skilled enough to be an impact player on Line 2. He probably could, riding with a good pair. Like he does with Backlund and Coleman.

But he needed a better pairing than Kadri-Dube. He's the ride-along.

If I were, say Chicago, and we could do my 4th best prospect and a 4th, we might have a deal.

Mangiapane's a good NHLer, we just don't have the parts to accommodate his secondary role, imho.

April 24

Put your hats on, she's U18 time starting tomorrow.

Sorry most of you lot have terrible start times, but so do our overseas Flames friends throughout the NHL season.

There are a lot of players to track. I'm intrigued to see guys like Beaudoin, Elick, Pettersson, Ritchie, Brunicke, of course Tij and many others (hi Norway).

It's just one, quick tourney, so I don't really get my panties in a bunch one way or the other. Just a nice opportunity to see them all in one place.

I've managed, "work from home" mode for mornings. Cool beans.

April 24

20 minutes ago, The_People1 said:

We only have enough talent to play Sutter defensive grindy style. So if it takes 10 years, then whatever it takes.

Are you actually a Flames fan? /s

April 24

17 minutes ago, travel_dude said:

Can't remember how long ago I had suggested we would end up with 81 points.

A lot of my threads were emergency basis, since it's nice to comment somewhere about the game on.

I can't recall if I did or said anything to the team to have them lose more than half the games I posted.

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

That was more than a suggestion!! You manipulated everything with these machines we type on. We have to get rid of these machines. And the whole time you and your lefty-smoking cronies and the mainstream media were feeding us fake news. Players didn't want to leave. You communists forced them out.

Well I'm going to Make Southern Alberta Great Again. MSAGA, mmmkay.🤪

April 24

3 hours ago, cross16 said:

Their speed, creativity and fluidness to their game is the best to watch

Their turnaround time on retrievals and turnovers is unreal to watch. That's gotta leave defenders breathless. Clear your zone and the next wave is coming, not now...RIGHT now. Gotta constantly stand on your toes and forget that you have heels.

I'm hoping Bowness can strategize their way through the Avs. Tough ask.

Is Makar still improving at 25? lol

I'm not shy to say that we're witnessing the best NHL dman ever.

April 24

9 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said:

FLA TB game 2 has been excellent. Everything a playoff game should be.

Also, can we just skip to the part where NYR ans CAR play? Their first round matchups do little to interest me. And to think there are folks that want more playoff teams..

Spectacular goaltending. Both games have been great. TBay needs to start games on time. Both games now, they need 10 mins of warm-ups. Started OT the same way. Like, ummmm, guys, get moving...

April 24

19 minutes ago, rocketdoctor said:

so with our recent trades should I be cheering for Canucks & Stars?

Anyone else we got conditional picks for?

Vegas upgrade to next year's 2nd from this year's 3rd if they win a rd. So basically trading 2, likely 85-95ish, 3rd rd picks for Vegas' 2025 2nd rd pick. Then you hope Vegas sucks next year (plus the year after 1st) to keep that 2nd at <50.

April 24

How embarrassed would you be to have the handle, "Andrew Mangiapane is the best Breadman"?

Credibility swirling straight down the toilet. lol

April 23

That's awesome, boss!

I kinda suspected the fix was in and td and rd conspired to have us miss the playoffs.lol

When things got dicey, they brought in medats ho to seal the deal!

It was all a conspiracy. So 2021. The steal is on!!

April 22

I should also point out Hronek was 2016 53rd oa.

We really haven't had picks that would be coming to fruition in the now. More often than not, we were the team trading those picks.

That's what excites me. We got some solid prospects last year, and even more this year. 1st pick is 1st pick. Way too much is made of it when you're outside of top 3.

I think 5 picks in the top 75 is awesome, and something that we're really not used to. We're going to be getting some really good prospects with all of those picks.

April 22

1 hour ago, robrob74 said:

how often can you get a Hronek like the Canucks did?

As often as you like, honestly. From a Detroit perspective, I'm glad that he's doing well, but there is just no way to keep him for next year at a QO of $5.4 with arb rights. I'm really happy with that trade. He was having a big year for the D. He had to go. Just no way he was going to be worth Detroit giving a term and $$ contract to. Wrong place, wrong time.

Glad he's having success elsewhere, though. That was a good trade for both teams. See how Van makes out with the extension.

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