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1 hour ago, The_People1 said:
There is a good chance the Flames go off the board, so to speak, and pick Tij. It's not a reach at #9.
Last season, I remember no D was ranked in the top 10... But MTL reached for the best RHS RD at 5. And then ARZ reached next for Simashev at 6.
Always count on MTL to be flashy and go off the board (at least by a bit). Slafkovsky and Reinbacher is proof.
ARZ has questionable scouting. Picks have been hit and miss in recent history.
Those are the two teams picking ahead of us who are unpredictable.
Who was saying that? about no D in the top 10
https://www.tsn.ca/intrigue-and-excitement-in-the-year-of-connor-bedard-at-the-nhl-draft-1.1976262
At least one of the buttons thought there was. but...don't get me wrong, your point is valid.
The discrepancies are beyond wild lol.
I was...shocked...to see the Flames pass in the D department. I'm not a Button fan, but I suspect he got it right with Pellika.
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6 hours ago, The_People1 said:
Sounds good. Very good chance he'll be there at 9 because teams ahead of us seem to need D badly.
very tough call. a lot of them need d badly due to their history of short term decision making.
traditionally, d are the ones that drop.
i still think Tij, as much as I would like him, may be a moot point because someone will pick him over an incredibly good defenceman. We just have to know who that defenceman is. Because not all 6 of them will end up being difference makers.
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6 hours ago, robrob74 said:
sounds like you're downplaying Weegar a bit. Maybe he's not worth his deal? What would he get on the open market?yeah that's fair, it's just a salary question. he was the "unless we want to start eating salaries" bit for me.
he good.
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6 hours ago, The_People1 said:
Are you talking Markstrom? Or Andersson? Or both?
Of the two, Andersson has the higher trade value. He's 28. Signed for 2 more at a very reasonable deal. And he's a coveted RHS RD who can step into a complementary top pair role. Very difficult to find RHS RD.
Sure, BUF can just draft a RD this draft and then wait 3-4 years for the prospect to be NHL ready... But that might be 3-4 more years of missed playoffs and the end of Adam's job. It just feels like BUF is the team to take total advantage of right now by dangling Andersson.
Mr. Andersson is sort of our last big play. Outside of things like Coronato, Honzek, Wolf. I'm not too excited about trading Wolf. But I would trade Coronato or Honzek, for future equivalent picks or better. Or as part of a package for a top, top D prospect.
Of the vets we have, yeah it's kind of Andersson and that's it, unless we want to get into eating salary.
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3 hours ago, travel_dude said:
So, it's speculation given that several quote insiders quote were saying a 1st plus Holtz plus. And that Markstrom was asked if he would waive to go to NJ. That would have been pretty risky for NJ at the time, if it was true. Possibly too late to save the season. End up having given away a lotto pick. Yes, it may have been the 2025 pick. Or it could have been 2024. Will never know for sure.
LA could get in on any bidding war or be the only team interested in Marky. They are built to win now. It would have to be a 1st this year plus Kaliyev. If they want retention, then they need to add another pick. LA is built not to score, so the G is uber important to them. Marky/Rittich would not be a bad tandem, and Rittich may still be a cheap re-sign.
that was all pre-trade deadline though. We knew the spike in Markstrom's performance wouldn't last, and it didn't. He would need to have another year like that, and we'd have to wait until trade deadline, for him to have that value again and even then it would be very hard with him a year older.
But hey, there have been crazier trades, never ruling anything out. But it's a bit astonishing that we didn't take it.
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6 hours ago, The_People1 said:
Staying the course is not horrible if you keep everyone, miss the playoffs barely, and then luck into a top 3 pick. The bounce back would be quick and swift because the pick would be one of the best prospects of that year.
The main reason teams "tank" is to get to the bottom to draft those guys. With an unweighted lottery, there's no more ugly stuff like that. Teams build to win every moment of the season.
An unweighted lottery is not just a simple change. It would be NHL altering and change every team's rebuild strategy because the old tricks to sink to the bottom won't work anymore.
they won't do it because good organizations would win all the cups and bad organizations would spend decades in the basement. or at least that would be the fear.
Meeting halfway would be nice though.
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1 hour ago, conundrumed said:
Another GM that refuses to address goaltending. Both them and NJ are stunningly blind to G being their major weakness. Completely threw Levi to the wolves without a life preserver.
Both GMs just fire everyone else for their own, ummm, shortcomings, shall we call them?
G has been an issue for years with both teams. Yet they can't seem to admit it. Fitzgerald even goes so far as to have a public outburst about having to pay a steep price for goaltending. The same Tom Fitzgerald, mediocre hockey player, that fired his coach for not being able to play net, I guess.
What a loser. If I were Conroy, I'd just call him and say, "So Tom, everyone knows what that stupid Satoshi Nakamoto was about. Never ask me about Markstrom's availability again. YOU Blockchained ME over with my guy. Next time you want to tell stories, tell the right one. Worst mistake of my life was asking my guy to waive, because I took you at your word. But I'm not crying to the media about it".
click
I wonder if there might be some salvageable staff.
I mean I still prefer poaching detroit but sometimes you gotta mix it up
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37 minutes ago, conundrumed said:
No I didn't. You just move the goalposts to suit your contradictions.
Go ahead, redo that draft. Entertain me.
You remember me in the last draft. Wanted the D. You defending Honzek. Draft before that too.
I'm still like that, but I think we should be picky. With the D available, should be able to get someone who has it all. Or Tij, but Then acquire a D to make up for it.
You just wanna fight. I been there.
Try taking the wife away for a few nights. Just sayin.
In a redraft right now Seider would be unchanged. But some fell behind him, some have surpassed him. The ones who surpassed him did it with talent, and yes they can score, and there will be more of them by the time we do a 10 year redraft. He has a ceiling.
I want to draft someone who doesn't.
Don't get me wrong, I like Detroit. I hope they contend. They did most things right. Maybe not all
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1 hour ago, conundrumed said:
Oh boy....
So they used their 1st 3 picks on Dmen. Seider - now a bonafide 1D, Tuomisto and Johansson in the 2nd round. Both are close, Johansson is NHL-ready imho. Tuo is a big RHD with a monster of a clapper, Jo is a smaller (6') LD who prevails on D-acumen, skating and high IQ. So 3 differing dmen.
They also drafted G Carter Gylander, whom they recently signed at the end of Colgate's season, where he had a pretty solid 4 years on a middling team.
So here we are...
"You have to build a team from the net out, unless it affects my ability to be a contrarian"
- @jjgallow probably 🤪
You would be surprised to know that in the NHL, it is possible to acquire players through trade, as well as free agent signing.
I like Detroit and I like Seider and it's all just fine, but if that's the epitome of proving me wrong, you came up short. Seider is not yet a bonafide 1D on a great team. If he continues his development path then he could very well become that. Yes, I know he's got a good 2 way game. But it's still not quite enough. When people do the 10-year redraft, Seider's just not going to be on top of it, sorry. Or in the top 5. Lucky to be in top 10. Unless he's got another big development step coming, which he of course might, with his style of play. He's doing all the things defencemen finally learn to do as they hit their prime. And he's doing them early. But he doesn't necessarily have some of the other intangibles that the greats just...come with. There's just a few key things missing, and he could still learn them before he hits his prime, but they are HARD things to learn after the fact.
D is a mess largely in part because the draft needs to be pushed back a year. It's too early to say if Seider is the best D in that draft.
Ask yourself the best thing the Flames did with D in the last 20 years.
Then load up on over-agers.
I'll be happy if we draft a D, but to be completely honest I hope they are a little better than Seider if we do. He's very wholesome, I fully agree, but I'd still hope for a little more with a top 10 pick. Not that I'd mind him on he Flames, just saying.
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3 hours ago, The_People1 said:
Some insiders are trying to link Markstrom to BT and the Leafs this summer. Depends on what the Leafs do with Samsonov. Could Markstrom land TOR's 22nd overall? Or maybe a 2nd round pick with no salary retention?
there is only one GM in this league right now who would give a 1st for Markstrom.
And that's the one.
Fingers crossed.
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1 hour ago, conundrumed said:
Fitting for an extremely up-and-down year. Just exhausted Lyon for the dying weeks due to Husso being gone. Going 1-9 after the ASB killed them, coming off a 5 gm heater that had them right there with TBay. Walman being IR struck a blow on the D pairings that really showed. Ghostisbehere-Petry. lol in sadness.
Biggest bright spot: Raymond by far. They were saying he came to camp having added about 20lbs! of muscle. Did it ever show. I've always said any prospect can have an enormous off-season and improve by leaps and bounds. He proved it.
Up in the air with Kane and Perron. Didn't love that 2nd line with Compher. Ghostisbehere proved to other teams he's worth a decent contract.
Chiarot played well in the back half, but need to shed him and Holl, who barely played. Yzerman backed himself into buyouts. Same with Ladd. They're just not needed for next season.
8yrs without playoffs - Larkin's entire career.
I'd be shocked if they haven't inquired about Markstrom, because their G position is Lyon-Husso. Reimer did well for being a rebound machine. He fought, but he's a 2b on a good day.
They really need a workhorse goalie. They've managed to wear out Husso and Lyon in consecutive years.
Even just short term would at least buy time. Gru is the first guy to say that he feels bad for way over-playing his starters, that should really be 1B goalies.
So many moving parts. Seider and Raymond are getting PAID. Seider is the epitome of @jjgallow's D-ranking flaws.
Yzerman will have a busy summer. This time NOT shopping the UFA market hard. DeBrincat, Kane and Petry literally fell in his lap. Compher was a good add, Holl was a disaster to offset that.
Onwards and upwards!
Oh yeah...this is what a full rebuild looks like. The difference being Holland left a world of bad contracts behind. We're still paying Abdelkader. For 2 more years even.
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When the Wings hired Yzerman as GM, Holland would not just be his asst GM but also asst to POHO. He wasn't being demoted.
It took about 2 days for Holland to take another job. It makes me feel like he'd have taken any job, anywhere, because he was about to be heavily audited.
About 1-2 weeks later, Y held a press conference asking for patience, saying, "this is going to take a long time".
We'll see how he leaves Edmonton and if he had success. I'd be very wary if I were an Oilers fan, because he left Detroit with a disaster, imo.
Some will say, "but he was taking orders from ownership". I say that if you're just going to be toothless to ownership, why not move on? It's not like he couldn't have gotten a job.
I'm sure, "breach of trust" is in every contract, so it's not like he was enslaved by a contract. He just chose to spend horribly like a drunken sailor. Then he can blame ownership.
That's my take.
He saw the audit coming and couldn't leave fast enough.
thank God they didn't consider goal scoring and mess up by drafting Cozens.
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2 minutes ago, robrob74 said:
im all about being as down as possible because opposites happen for me.
I lost the lottery tonight!!! I lost the lottery!!! only $70M
my wife bought the tickets for that, because she's luckier ( for example, she found me )
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1 minute ago, robrob74 said:
my bet is, we win last game, we stay in 9th, but tied with NJD and they win the lotto! 🤣that's the kind of pessimism we need!!!
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5 minutes ago, robrob74 said:
I didn't catch who wins the tie breaker. Are the Flames guaranteed the 9th place odds in the lotto? Or can they leap NJD still?
if they hire a private investigator to spy on them, then yes.
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1 minute ago, The_People1 said:
Ya Kuz, we playing your old team the Vancouver Canucks but you know what bud, Klapka's got it tonight. Why don't you take your family out to White Rock and do some crabbing today and come catch up with the rest of the team at the airport after the game?
Do it Conroy
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1 hour ago, The_People1 said:
Called up Klapka for the final two games. Kuzmenko should rest the remainder of the season. He deserves a break after all his hard work last week.
With everything going on in Russia, surely he needs a mental health leave for a few days.
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25 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
That 4-point game sealed our fate for the draft. If only Conroy didn't trade for Kuzmenko we would be drafting Dickinson at 5. Instead, it's Tij at 9/10.
If he keeps making trades like that, we won't need a rebuild lol.
But if he's smart, he'll keep making trades that make the rebuild better and more effective.
Next Bobby Orr hails from Calgary, and is in the 2027 draft. We either need to be really bad by then or have traded for a lot of first-round picks by then lol
I was mad he didn't trade Markstrom. But in hindsight, had he traded Markstrom I don't think we'd have a top-10 pick this year. It's possible that he's smart.
If he drafts equally well, he can make up for the difference between 8 and 10. Not ideal, but he can. Dickinson is more a high floor than a high ceiling. It doesn't worry me because I want high ceiling.
Tij is a high ceiling. A few others there are too. It doesn't bother me as much about the position because...well...
If Conroy can make sensible trades, it will all work out. We need come out of drafts with asset value. You figure the position stuff out after. -
5 hours ago, conundrumed said:
Never heard of him. "Mestis" is Finland's version of the AHL. They were developing him there at 19. Seems crazy.
Why not u20 sarja? His dev looks weird to me, but I'm not really familiar with their processes. He was U20 at 17-18. Then Finland's 2nd best league at 18-19 for 35 starts?
What am I missing? Why was he pushed so fast? Yet no internationals.
We need to launch a full investigation. lol
Somebody championed this signing. I can't make much sense of his profile, I'm sure you all checked, but regardless (irregardless for some lol):
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/279019/waltteri-ignatjew
It's not a rebuild. It's not a rebuild. It's not a rebuild.
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3 minutes ago, conundrumed said:
Wrong Button. lol
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24 minutes ago, conundrumed said:
You're only 20-25 picks too late. And all the other scouts are looking at Button with that, "where the Blockchain did you find this guy?" bewildered look. lol
High praise indeed
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9 hours ago, conundrumed said:
It's the difference between knowing when it's necessary to ramp it up down by a goal and protecting a lead. Also the difference between knowing how to trust and accommodate your forwards than trying to be a one-man show.
If you want your dmen to be wingers, why not just get good wingers that good dmen can accommodate?
If that's aimed at Dickinson, sorry man, but that's laughable. You're not watching him. When the Knights need a goal, I guarantee you that he's the first guy they send out. And he'll not disappoint, usually. He has a lot of 3rd assists. lol Just because he didn't score it, or even get an assist, doesn't mean he had nothing to do with it.
They're in the playoffs vs Kitchener rn, watch him. Then you can see Sam O'Reilly too. C, should go within 60th oa. He'll be their 1C next year.
Added bonus: Brzustewicz plays for Kitchener. Don't confuse him with his younger bro, who plays for London. lol
The AHL is full of former high picks with great shots who can't translate. Not saying he'll end up in the AHL, but does he have the vision to be a 1st line difference maker at the NHL level?
He's a safe pick, does many things right and unlikely to fail.
A little too safe for my liking. I would for sure take him with the Vancouver pick.
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1 hour ago, conundrumed said:
Yup. Draisaitl's a great player, too. It speaks volumes to just how much space McDavid creates when he has the puck. We can sour grapes him all we want, but as a player, he is the best player in the league. It is more than evident hockey has been his entire life growing up. Evidenced by the almost non-existent, almost robotic personality. I had to take a shot at him somehow. lol
Also he plays for the Oilers
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6 hours ago, conundrumed said:
It's the difference between knowing when it's necessary to ramp it up down by a goal and protecting a lead. Also the difference between knowing how to trust and accommodate your forwards than trying to be a one-man show.
If you want your dmen to be wingers, why not just get good wingers that good dmen can accommodate?
If that's aimed at Dickinson, sorry man, but that's laughable. You're not watching him. When the Knights need a goal, I guarantee you that he's the first guy they send out. And he'll not disappoint, usually. He has a lot of 3rd assists. lol Just because he didn't score it, or even get an assist, doesn't mean he had nothing to do with it.
They're in the playoffs vs Kitchener rn, watch him. Then you can see Sam O'Reilly too. C, should go within 60th oa. He'll be their 1C next year.
Added bonus: Brzustewicz plays for Kitchener. Don't confuse him with his younger bro, who plays for London. lol
I'm totally with you man
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2 hours ago, The_People1 said:
Would love for Tij to be gone earlier than our pick so the Flames can avoid the controversy of picking him vs picking a need (D and C).
In that scenario, I think it's easy. Dickinson is the best D available. Buium is my next choice.
why dey no score goal?
They waiting for NHL to score goal? 😅
Still not ready to make my list. but, I have a pretty steep penalty for guys who can't put the puck in the net. defence or not.
one of these days I will give my list. I'm trying .
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