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On 5/10/2024 at 9:57 PM, Thebrewcrew said:
I have zero faith in either tender in this series.
I expect this to happen, like 90%, before Avs exit the playoffs.
If it goes well, everyone else is toast including Dallas.
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7 hours ago, conundrumed said:
The ridiculous axe-grinding continues. Give it a rest already, it's childish.
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I been trying to lay low. but, I can't. I feel compelled to say this.
Both Matthews and Nylander were put in all the final regular season games so that they could appease fans and chase regular-season accolades, despite both of them having put in a lot of high risk minutes and in need of a couple nights off.
Weird, but...okay.
Then they both get sick early in playoffs, and/or show concussion-like symptoms. not a shock.
Both are played anyway, and are totally ineffective. Right. Of course.
Then Matthews takes a hit, and For Sure has a concussion, or "head injury signs" as Treliving put it. Because that's the kind of direct, honest straight shooter he is.
Yeah played him Anyway, despite the doctors leaking rumours that it would be incredibly dangerous to. And he was totally ineffective. right.
Putting all the owner and coach and arena and "axe to burn" stuff aside, and putting aside all the hierarchical roles and "process" and the rest of that junk, and roles and responsibilities and how the GM is never really at fault,
BT let this happen under his watch, and... No, it's for sure Not why he fired the coach. Very likely the opposite actually. It's...Total, and it is Total, Complete BS to be happening in 2024.
He should not be a GM. He should not be in hockey. He is terrible, JUST for this, let alone all the other stuff he deflects. This is the ultimate in prioritising short term benefit. It's thinking short term ahead of the brain health of your best players.
No excuses for it. Don't care if the owners told him to do it, don't care if it was the coach's decision, don't care if the players lied about it, don't care if the doctors lied about it. I seen it in Calgary, I seen it in Toronto with same GM, he should be gone. Period.
A GM in 2024 who circumvents or allows others to circumvent player safety should not be a GM.
Glad it's not our problem here. Toronto will be Extremely lucky if this doesn't become a larger issue. >50% chance that one or both of them does not ever play the same again.
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36 minutes ago, robrob74 said:
Has Any of the teams ahead of us gone way off board in the past?
I can think of Columbus and Montreal as teams that might have, but can't name the players.
generally speaking, these teams are in the top 10 due to a track record of making poor decisions, so...yes lol.
in a really strong draft, it's less common because the decisions are more obvious. In this kind of draft... oh yeah.
I say one team as making a "subjective decision" as likely. But 2, 3 teams...is quite possible imho.
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Someone will be available that we don't expect to be. Only takes one team to make a "subjective decision" with their pick, which is highly likely.
Assuming there will be a surprise drop, the most likely scenario is that drop will be Russian
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2 hours ago, Thebrewcrew said:
As much as every team has its own list. There is some form of a consensus on the top 14 or 15 players, in varying order.
Demidov and Silayev are the two highest ranked Russians. Both looks like top five or six picks. If Silayev is there at 9 though, that would be exciting.
It’s very possible they look to Russia or Europe with the VAN pick. I think a Russian with the ninth pick is a little less likely. Chernyshov is probably the 3rd Russian in the class. I think he goes in the 16-20 range.
There will be bargains to be had for teams willing to take Russians, simple as that.
I hope the Flames are one of them, it's the easiest way to turn their top 10 pick into a top 5 pick, and their late 1st into an early 1st.
I would throw Levshunov into the mix, if we want to go with "Slavic" instead of purely Russian. Will Levshonov drop, despite already being in NA? I think just a little. But I also think we have an outside shot at Demidov. After all, if Michkov can drop 7 spots... so can Demidov.
Silayev worries me. Me and my goal-scoring rule are worried by Silayev. Would pass.
Chernyshov imho is Extremely under-rated. Absolute perfect target for our late 1st.
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38 minutes ago, JTech780 said:
No he isn't he is saying he doesn't have to convince Conroy of the draft order because he was part of the process.
Part of.
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2 minutes ago, cross16 said:
What's the difference?
yes I do read it differently and perhaps you should reference the full quote or you know the actual one. The crux of that article is that Conroy, who lead the amateur group as the AGM, was part of the draft process since day 1. So when he became the GM they weren't starting from scratch in terms of getting their analysis and list together. I don't think he did what Button told him to but I do think for sure they worked together.
Your speculating on everything else.
The difference, as you know, is that it's the scout's job to convince you of draft order.
And the scout is saying "I'm not doing that"
And then the GM picks the guy he was impressed by in the area he was assigned to.
Speculation like speculating the earth is round.
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Just,,
I think we should all zoom out for a second. What's the most offensive thing in this thread, really?
A. "I want D"
B. "Take a D first"C. "DickInSon"
D. "off the board"
If you're not bothered by A, B, or C, I think it's okay to have a little "tolerance for D"
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11 minutes ago, conundrumed said:
Not even close. That's laughable.
But look at the bright side, you still have, like, 300 days before you start moaning about this year's pick. lol
Oh dude. 48 days.
But if Conroy really does surround himself with the right people and trust them like I think he will, then I won't say a word. And that's what I'm expecting to happen.
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6 minutes ago, cross16 said:
As I was saying, it's baseless speculation on your part. No where in that aritlce does it hint that Conroy made this pick on his own that's you making a substantial leap.
You read "don't need to convince Conroy, because he knows". And think he did what Button told him to do.
I read it differently. Dude was impressed in the only playoff game Honzek peformed well in, talked about it in interviews, picked him. It's not speculation, it's interpretation.
And I also think he won't do it twice. We'll see soon. If he does, then, I won't be defending him anymore. lol
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12 minutes ago, conundrumed said:
Frankly, I can't wait until Honzek shuts everybody up.
"Good things come to those who wait", they say.
I'm ready to shut up, I'm all about this upcoming draft. I've not written the guy off, never said I did, not willing to take flak when he contributes in the NHL, which he probably will.
but was he off the board? yeah.
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22 minutes ago, cross16 said:
cool, you should post it then. Because it runs counter to everything they said post draft and runs counter to how this organization has operated for some time.
https://calgarysun.com/sports/flames-snapshots-conroy-has-extensively-scouted-2023-nhl-draft-class
there's one.
there's also another interview where he talks at length about one game he saw Honzek in. A playoff loss where he had 3 assists. and how impressive he was in that game. That was days/weeks before the draft.
unfortunately if he'd been in any of the other playoff games, he'd have seen Honzek get zero assists.
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1 minute ago, cross16 said:
Yes there is a list and 1 list that matters and it's the team's, which clearly had Honzek at the top of it. As I said it's fair to debate that and why but to compare it to a non existent consensus list is pretty pointless IMO.
Conroy did increase pro scouting but amateur scouting is mostly unchanged in terms of quantity but they did replace some outgoing scouts with new ones. The rest of this is pretty baseless speculation on your part.
i just listened to a direct interview with Conroy on why they picked Honzek man, and that's pretty much what he said. Just like this year, he's being pretty clear about a list.
Anyway, I think we all have some level of understanding on Honzek, which we are expressing differently.
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1 hour ago, cross16 said:
Can we please stop with this off the board nonsense?
I completely understand if you didn't like the Honzek pick, really do. It was an underwhelming pick for me too and it's fair to want other players. Scouting is based on subjective opinions after all.
But to complain that the Flames went off the board is just such a wrong and tired debate. For reference, Mckenzie had him 19, Corey Pronman had him 12th, Elite prospects 15th. Yes some had him in the 20s too but that's scouting and the draft for you there is no such thing as consensus scouting and ranking. I don't find it valuable at all to try and put down draft picks by comparing them to a non existent board, it's not fair IMO.
I think it's far more productive to question whether or not the Flames have the right scouting criteria or values when it comes to the draft, instead of suggesting they should stick to some non existent board.
You know how much I support Conroy, I would love to say back off, give Conroy a chance.
But facts are, there is a list, there are lists, and there isn't a single known list with professional scouts that would have picked Honzek next. Not Pronman, not Mckenzie, not Button, not eliteprospects, not any combination of any of them.
Conroy said himself that there is a list, and their priority is going by that list in 2024.
But in last year's draft, he didn't. He went with the guy he personally saw and scouted. And I think he regrets that, which is why he has been adamant about a "list" this year. He's boosted up scouting a ton. I think/hope he's learned.
But....like Bertuzzi would say, it is what it is. It was off every single board. And at least 10 spots off of popular opinion when looking at the guys available (Pellika, Barlow) and where they were rated.
Conroy's strength lies in his ability to surround himself with the right people, imho. In this case, it was his weakness, because he knew Honzek. But since then he has surrounded himself with scouting staff that he trusts, and I think we will see good results from that this year.
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1 hour ago, cross16 said:
With the Leafs firing Keefe and opening up that job, which despite all the Leafs hate is one of the more attractive jobs in the NHL, this could wind up being a crazy summer on the hiring front. For the record I don't think Keefe is that good a coach so I think the Leafs made the right call.
There are currently 5 open positions and 1 Interim coach in LA who has not been confirmed.
To keep the gossip levels high, Rob Brind'Amour's contract is up at the end of this year. While the speculation is he'll stay does a sweep change that?
Jon Cooper only has 1 more year left on his deal.
There are rumblings that Dubas wants Sullivan out in Pittsburgh, but doesn't want to fire him. Could we see a swap of coaches there? Keefe to Pitts and Sullivan to TO?
Could be interesting
You beat me to it, I was all ready to dust off the Treliving thread 😅 you know my thoughts.
Flames have made improvements in at least scouting. Have they made improvements in coaching? Some opportunities available with all the scapegoat firings?
I think all the movement could possibly free up some actually good coaches (not sure about Keefe though, like you said). For us right now, I think the most valuable coaches are ones that can develop youth. And those ones are also the ones who sometimes get blamed for organisational failures. But I can't put my finger on one that I like, all the same. Other than in goaltending, where I think we should bring in Russian goalie coaches.
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2 hours ago, conundrumed said:
I think his name is Igor Shesterkin. He's sick and tired of hearing that Vasilevsky is the best goalie in the world.
He's taking matters into his own hands. lol
Can we just, like, draft all of the Russian goalies this year with your 6th round picks I traded you?
And then bring Khabibulin in as the goaltending coach already. Open up that wallet.
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On 5/5/2024 at 9:37 AM, redfire11 said:
AHH never saw the 2026 good catch. Against my better judgement I will cheer for the VGK's tonight as ONLY to better upgrade the Flames picks.
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5 hours ago, The_People1 said:
It sure feels like the D are closely matched. Yet, all 6 are so different. Silayev is a giant with great skating. Parekh and Yakemchuk are offensive minded and can score but have defensive warts. Buium is a playmaker/passer type. Dickinson and Levshunov are hybrid who can do everything at a pretty high level.
Mix in LHS vs RHS. We could see 6 D drafted in the top 10 in any order imaginable. Don't think we've ever seen that before.
some possible learnings from 2012. both good and bad
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1 minute ago, cberg said:
Would still have an overcrowded concourse, terrible food and over-crowded seating....
flood-proof though
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29 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
But why are 8 teams passing on him?
Two years in a row he's sucked in the playoffs. weird. hard read.
Injury gamble, same as Honzek, but hand/wrist surgery here. If the injury fully recovers he could be right up there with Cellebrini. If it doesn't he may never see an NHL game. I'd say it's worth the gamble if he wasn't another LW. Would need more info then we will ever get.
While I fundamentally don't believe in targeting D unless a tie...D seems highly likely. So many of these teams will take the forwards because they aren't very smart teams to begin with (which is why they are picking so high lol)
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I remember a time when things were done differently. The 89 Flames did it right actually.
None of this star players doing 82 games thing. They'd take a few nights off at the end of the season and get rested up, knowing what mattered was ahead.
Now, you see these Draisaitl's and Matthew's just driven (by whom?) to win all these regular season accolades and come playoff time they're just...done.
Weird.
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1 hour ago, cross16 said:
I still think Dallas is right there and it will be a good series but boy oh boy is Colorado just humming right now. They might look better now then they did in their cup run.
If Georgiev can give them even average goaltending it's going to be very tough to beat them playing like this.
or...if they have luck with Justus Annunen.
In which case, done deal.
I think they're the team I'm cheering for now. If we can't take the cup to Calgary at least we can give it to a Calgarian.
2024 NHL draft - A New Hope
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Luckily, after all of us closely watching the top 10 for last 10 years or so on these boards, I have Never seen it go down the way people said it "probably" would. Ever. If it goes down like this, you'll be the first.
I mean after the draft, lots of people always say "yeah that's what I expected" 😅. but that's a different story
Could make for a fun competition. or maybe not. it really depends less on hockey and more on the whims of GMs, how much they listen to their scouts/owners, etc.