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Hard to know though if the Flames could have gotten him at that number. Adjusted for tax, he would take home over 500K more in Dallas than he would in Calgary at that AAV. I think its likely the Flames would have had to pay more. I personally get the sense the Flames dogged a bullet here. I think that is a really risky deal that Dallas is likely going to regret at some point. EDIT: Bishop also got a NMC in the deal and Flames have said they will not give those out. Wonder if that has been a stumbling block all along with Bishop.
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Yeah but boy 6 years for a goalie as injury prone as he is? AAV is good but I would have passed on that term.
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I dont' see the line of thinking where Botteril would want to acquire Fleury. Buffalo was 4th best in save percentage last year but dead last in shots against, one of the worst scoring teams 5 on 5 and were terrible trying to hold leads. Goaltending isn't a real pressing issue for them so not sure why a new GM would waste assets addressing that position when so many other needs remain.
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I think Falkowsky for sure needs more time. Pleased with the progress, but going from the ECHL to the NHL is an extremely difficult and almost unheard of jump. Give him time in the A and see what happens. AOM is an interesting case. I've always been a fan but you watch him skate and its cringe worthy, but yet he finds a way to get it done. I believe the Flames still need to sign him (correct me if i'm wrong) but if they do I would say he would be a guy worth watching in camp as I agree he brings a skillset that is lacking but he needs to have improved his skating since the last time I saw him. End of the day I think the Flames will likely bring in 2 Dman (Stone could be one) and leave 1 spot option for guys on the farm to battle for. I don't think Treliving has the same theory as Sutter who believed in clogging the NHL club with marginal NHL talent and waiting for farm hands to beat them out.
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Depends on whether you think Bishop was a legitimate option. Sure sounds like he wasn't also the trade off there now is there are now potentially 2 less teams looking for goalies too. So yes less options but also less competition especially given that there so few teams looking for starters in the first place.
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I dont' think the goalie market has changed too much for the Flames. Darling got a ridiculous contract IMO that I wouldn't have given him (not sure the Flames would either) and Bishop I think was either going to price himself out of the Flames market (already did according to reports) or didn't want to come here anyway. Sure sounds like Bishop wasn't going to be an option. Still plenty of options out there and really I still think the Flames are at the same place they were at the end of the season.
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I get what you are trying to say, but you are throwing out some very far out there comparisons. You just listed 4 Hall of fame players and 4 of the greatest to ever play as an argument that maybe Jh and Monahan arn't as good as they should? Pretty unrealistic comparison. Can't find the numbers right now, but i'm fairly certain i saw a graphic this year on Sporsnet that showed that since they've been put together JH and Mony are one of the leagues most productive pairs in terms of points. IN fact I think there are several metrics that point to JH and Mony being an elite pairing. As always i'm fine discussing splitting up anyone because just because they are very good doesn't mean there isn't a better option (just look at Brodie - Gio - Hamilton) but need to remember they are a very good pairing together.
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Schultz is likely going to get more than that. He was a top 4 dman for the Pens basically all year and topped 50 points. I think Schultz gets over 4.5 on some term, he's really come into his own in Pittsburgh. I really like him but I think he's priced out of the flames budget.
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I liked darling but the fact a team was willing to give up a 3rd tells me he's viewed as a starter around the league. I'll be curious to see the $ but I wonder if Carolina will have to pay up to the tune if 3.5-4 mill or more. That sounds a lot of coin for a guy whose never started, but let's see.
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Might not be "Flames" news technically or for very long but thought it was cool that Chad Johnson is going to play for Team Canada at the Worlds.
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Appreciate it. We should start a campaign. Needs to be a first time for everything
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so a nasty rumor is floating around that part of the reason for the delay is Treliving is trying to get a clause in his contract that stops King from meddling in hockey ops. Apparently King insists on being informed of every deal BEFORE it is made and while he won't necessarily block it he must give it the go ahead before it can be done. There is a challenge logistically there obviously because its not like King is in the office all the time and apparently Treliving is very frustrated by that set up. Irregardless of whether or not this is true or not, this is now about 5 years running where rumors of meddling will not go away. While I don't believe everything I read I also believe in where there is smoke there is fire, so the fact this won't go away is quite frustrating. As i've put in numerous posts I am not a Ken King fan and I think he should have been let go years ago but the more this drags on the more I am left with the feeling that this organization will never see the type of success we want as long as King is around. If the Flames lose Treliving over Ken King, which is IMO the only reason he won't be here and I felt that way before I heard this, I will be 1 unhappy camper. So anyone looking for season tickets feel free to inquire.
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So i guess we are going to ignore the fact that the Flames had the 2nd most prospects at the World Juniors this year? He's been through 2 drafts on his own (i'm not going to count 2014 as he was here for 2 months prior to it) and I think if you look at the 2015-2016 drafts the early returns are very promising. Criticizing someone because their draft picks haven't made it in 2 years is about as short sighted as you can be. Draft picks take time. I also find it interesting you are suggesting that the flames can't find late round gems but ignore the fact that their top offensive player is a 4th round pick, top Dman is an undrafted free agent, 3rd best Dman is a 4 rounder, Ferland was a 5th, Bouma a 3rd rounder, I'd love to see how many clubs you think have done better than that in the late rounds of the draft. Sure there are a few but let's not act likes its easy to find impactfull players late in drafts, it isn't'
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I think you are making a very fair point here and it was one that was asked before the start of the season. You can try and come up with reasons/excuses for it but the reality is that despite great numbers in the 5 years he was there the Blues never seemed comfortable giving him the net to himself and even traded for Ryan Miller in the midst of Elliott having an All-Star season. Yes I understand it was a bad trade and Miller flopped, but when a story repeats itself again and again there is usually a root cause there and on multiple occasions the Blues went a different direction rather than give Elliott the net. I think that speaks volumes. That being said, the gave up only a 2nd round pick and took a chance, and that's what Elliot was he was taking a chance. Irregardless of whether or not he was a number 1 he was a goalie who showed you that at times he could play at an elite level so he was worth the chance, and the cost fit that chance. Didn't work the way anyone hoped but that happens sometimes. Doesn't mean Elliott isn't a good goalie, he just clearly is not a number one and that is a pattern now that IMO just cannot be argued against.
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They did. That was one of the last ones the league allowed before they axed it. Bruins got a 2nd for Peter Chiarelli too. Actually worked out for the Flames because they did not owe compensation to the Nucks for hiring Gulutzan.
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No. Axed it because teams got tired of having to send compensation for guys who had been fired by their last club. Still need permission, but no more compensation granted.
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They dumped that rule unfortunately. Not just Elliott. 3 or 4 different sources have reported Conroy is a person of interest for Buffalo. His stock has risen pretty sharply in the last few years.
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It is, but I also cannot put most of the blame on him when the team scored 2 5 on 5 goals in the entire series. Elliot was good in game 1 and they coudln't find a way to win. He wasn't fantastic in Game 2 but Flames only scored 2 goals. Again in Game 4 yes a weak goal early but plenty of time to come back. With the way the Flames offence played Elliott would have had to be spectacular for them to win the series. I find it pretty unfair to say a goalie cost a team a series because he wasn't spectacular. Big reason yes, main reason? I can't get there. Need to hold the team accountable too. Don't disagree that for most of the season he wasn't that great.
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ya i'm sorry,, you go up 4-1 in a playoff game and your goalie lets in 2 weak goals to bring them back in the game, that is on your goalie 100%. Elliott cost them game 3 I think there is no doubt about that. having said that he didn't cost them the series so that part I agree with. You score 4 goals in a playoff game and you need to win 99.9% of the time. Having said that I dont' think we are at a point where Elliott can not come back. He shouldn't, and I don't think will be, Plan A but I also don't think the Flames should get in a position where they get desperate and hand out a bad contract or make a bad trade. Work your options and if it comes back to Elliott being the right fit then he is an option. I'm not Elliott's biggest fan, wasn't before the playoffs either, but I also think you have to take a step back and not read too much into a few bad days. Elliott was fantastic in the playoffs last year and while he clearly is not a number 1 he did show you he has the ability to carry a team at times int he regular season too. When you look at the first round guys like Crawford, Bobrovsky, Jones and heck even Dubnyk really didnt play well. Have to be cautious over reacting based on 1 playoff series. Especially, when he was not the main reason you lost the series.
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For what it's worth King yesterday on the radio mentioned to not expect any "surprises" in his hockey ops group. All signs point to Treliving being back. The hockey ops thing is interesting because really for a team that has gone through a lot of change at the top in the last half decade, their hockey ops group has remained surprisingly consistent. They've added here and there but a lot of key people remain in key roles. Wonder if that finally changes?
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Council now receiving initial details on the CLMC report of an arena at Victoria Park Worth noting on the last tweet that the majority of council did agree that CalgaryNext was not feasible. Didn't agree it was time to completely "kill" it however.
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By all reports. Fleury and the Pens have an very good relationship. It's been mentioned by a few sources too that Fleury wants to start so if Pittsburgh is going to turn it over to Murray, which they will, he wants to go somewhere else.
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Report heading to council Monday to discuss a Plan B in Victoria Park. Edit: the report itself http://agendaminutes.calgary.ca/sirepub/cache/2/5axlxevhr2wjb0nmiodnbucg/5419230421201703372538.PDF Nothing too fancy in there. Couple quick highlights; - Located where the 2 north parking lots are now (see picture below) - Arena only. No mention of a stadium, just mentions potentially some "auxiliary" features. - Interesting in that them mention this is in a zone that has already been approved for a CRL so there is a funding source for the infastructure to put it in. - Land is owned by Stampede but they are agreeable to the land swap
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Stockton Heat Updates [2016-2017]
cross16 replied to travel_dude's topic in Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects
Good luck to Stockton. By all reports they've played some solid hockey lately so hopefully they can get hot again and get on a little run.
