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JJ, you are like the sun coming up in the morning. Always expected. Ramo's b2b shutouts didn't change a thing. Both Ramo's and Ortio shutouts were great, but getting past being a backup or a callup requires a lot more. And they need to win more than one of one. They need to go 4/7 at least to be considered consistent. I hope Joni has turned the corner this year. It would be nice to rely less on Hiller. I am sure Hiller is probably looking at the kid as competition (oh no, another 3 goalie situation).
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Good. Let Joni go the All Star game and Ramo get next start.
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You might get your wish after the Wings game. Ramo looks like he got concussed. Was in the quiet room and didn't come back to the bench. If he isn't ready for Friday, look for a callup to Ortio to sit on the bench.
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The only accounts that I hear of Ramo's decline are by you. If you take out the recent Flames losing streak, then he isn't playing that bad. Prior to it, he had b2b shutouts. He has played all of 15 games, and you can't even give him another 30 games before you want to send him to the scrapheap. He outplayed Ortio last season, which is why Ortio is still on the farm. Ortio has a long way to go before he will be considered even a backup on the Flames. Would love for him to become the next Kipper, but I think Ramo is a lot closer to that.
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Eat some more turkey, and go back to sleep. What has Ortio ever done in the NHL to have you dubbinh him the next great one? 9 gp, 4w/wl .893 SV%. Big deal. Ramo has a better average than that this year, even with the sub-par games he (and the team) had. Also, 2 SO. AS have starter quality goalies that have some bad runs of late, but if the team only scored 1 goal per game, how is the goalie the blames? I like our prospects as just that; prospects. They may step up big time in the next two years, or they could be like Berra. I'll go with the huys that are actually playing in the NHL until the prospects actually do something.
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Potter sent back to the AHL. Strange move, but I guess it means that Wotherspoon or Seilof is coming up, or they don't need the extra D and want to recall Poirier or Ferland. I am ok with that. I somehow doubt Smid is near to playing, but I could be wrong. No news on him other than put on IR.
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Can't just do it, unless we demote a roster player or place someone on IR. Doesn't make sense to bring up a third goalie while we have two.
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Have to say that I wasn't cringing when Engelland was on the ice. He was again making some good plays. Russell had a few gaffs close to the net, but he was ok. I don't know if Potter is any good, but Diaz is scary out there some nights. Tonight he was a bit "quieter" out there, so that isn't too bad. What can you say about Brodano? Nothing that hasn't already been said. Our top 4 D have 34, 24, 21 and 15 points. That's 94 points from the blueline. INSANE.
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I don't see how you can begin to compare Ortio at the AHL level and Ramo at the NHL level. Apples and Bananas. Unless he was called up for a run and was 4-2 then I wouldn't consider him in the same ballpark as Ramo yet.
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There. Fixed that for you. Don't get all the hate for Ramo. He may not have Hiller's quiet confidence, but how many shutouts does he have this year? He has games where he doesn't look great, but that is true of any Finn we have between the pipes. Give his some props for what he does, and just hope that Ortio can translate his game to the NHL. Gillies should turn pro next year, so we should get to actually see him play at the pro level. If he is as good as we bith think he is, he won't be long in the AHL, and will have Ortio (or Ramo or Hiller) backing him up for the NHL Flames soon enough.
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Kipper was never one to complain about the team in front of him. Hiller has shifted the blame away from himself, rightly or wrongly, at least once. McBackup ranted to the point of being sent down. I have never heard a Finnish goalie on this team blame anyone but themselves. For some reason, Finland seems to breed goalies like Cole Harbour breeds skilled centers. We have two in the system, and each one of them has a special set of skills. Whether it be Ramo or Ortio, we have some goalies that could have long NHL careers.
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There are some games that the choice was obvious; Hiller against Anaheim, Ramo against San Jose, split up B2B games. I think fans are reasonable if they see a cycle, and not think that a goalie is played too many games in a row. Ramo played 3 times after posting consecutive shutouts. Hiller had two losses in a row after posting a shutout over Carolina and then got another 5 games after that. Just don't ride a hot goalie until he cools, or leave a guy to rust. Hartley looks like a genious at times for his choices, but at some point there is a letdown in a winable game.
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TBH, I think Ortio is a few years away from being a starter in the NHL, if ever. Not to belittle his body of work, just that goalies are voodoo until they play more than 80 games. We have two start-quality goalies right now. Hartley has to find the right balance in number of starts. I don't care if he slices the total games in two, but stop running with a goalie until he loses or has a bad game. It makes the guy coming back in cold his first game, and doesn't give the guy going out a chance at redemption. What made Kipper great (ok, just one of the many things) was the ability to bounce back from a punding. He was great the game after a blowout loss. Right now, Ramo and Hiller have rust in their games when they back in. You may not agree, but I think Ramo has a long career ahead of him. He was respectable last year on a 27th place team.
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We are ripe with Goalie prospects, but I am still impressed with Ramo. He reminds me of Kipper, and I don't think we have seen his best yet this season.
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Good to see Russell getting some points. He is one of the least appreciated d-men we have. Is a tough SOB for his size, and takes a beating out there. His play allows Wideman to jump up above the hash marks.
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For sure Johnny is known back east, and is quickly making a name for himself in the rest of the countries. He could take over the scoring lead by rookies with a good stretch of games. Forsberg will likely hit a wall, besides everyone loves a little guy story. His clean play will likely earn him some votes for the Byng. Brodie will have the toughest time getting votes, as he is unknown by the MSM. He isn't as well known as Gio, and even Gio will be forgotten by some. They talk about Weber like he is a shoo-in every year. PK is too much of a me-first player.
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Haven't had much of a sample yet, but I wonder whether Ortio will pass Ramo on the depth chart by year end. On one hand you have a NHL goalie, still young and can win you games. On the other hand you have a prospect goalie that might be able to handle a backup position in the NHL. I just don't know which is riskier, Ramo extension or going all-in on Ortio in the NHL as a backup. We had so many years of McBackup. Now we actually have two McStarters.
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Agreed. Wideman was on a streak and was surpassed by Gio/Brodie. One of them has a less effective (scoring only) night and he steps back up. Like to see that slapper from the point. Goes in or creates rebounds.
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I don't mind him rushing up, but he has to spot open players and fire a hard pass. Don't want to see him try a wrap-around. Saw that before and it didn't end well. Would like to see him pass it off and drive the net.
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Ramo played 2 games against the Yotes last season, both in Calgary: 4-1 win 0.967 SV% 1.0 GA 1st star 3-2 win 0.938 SV% 2.0 GA 1st star Hiller played 5 games last year. 3-2 SO win 0.938 SV% 2.0 GA 2nd star (Home game) 5-2 win 0.923 SV% 2.0 GA (Home game) 3-2 OT win 0.920 SV% 2.0 GA (Home game) 4-2 win 0.955 SV% 2.0 GA 2nd star (Away game) 5-3 win 0.903 SV% 3.0 GA 3rd star (Away game)
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Derek Wills @Fan960Wills 2 hrs2 hours ago Calgary, Alberta #Flames Head Coach tells #YYC media that Jonas Hiller gets the start in goal for first game of home stand vs. #Coyotes tomorrow. #CGYvsARI
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Gillies had a less than stellar WJC, so he was reluctant to leave college knowing his performance might result in being a free agent. Staying in college was the best decision, since he is still young and inexperienced. His hip injury didn't help his season and summer prep. I'm not really worried about his season in the NCAA, since he will need seasoning in the pros before starting in the NHL. Loads of time on that one. Ortio has me more worried. I think his confidence should have been buoyed by the contract he just signed, with a 1 way in year 2. He wasn't ready to take on the work as a backup this season. He would not get consistent starts. He needs playing time this year to show it wasn't a fluke. Mason isn't a worry to me, since he is a kid playing on a QMJHL basement team. He is years away from the NHL.
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Ortio is currently ranked 3rd last in the AHL; 4.09 GAA .879 SV% Ramo was rusty in the last game. He was like that last season before he got the rains after returning from his injury. He is still young, so saying he is a career backup is just wrong.
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Millions is suggesting that Ramo is starting (according to practice) lines. I think it may have been one game too late. Saying that, it wasn't Hiller that lost the game.
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Oh, burn! I think he is the guy that the bouncer takes up to the bar and points him out to the bartender. He then turns around and walks out of the bar and asks some guy to go buy him a drink, which he spills, and then asks for another drink because somebody made him spill it.
