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In an expansion situation, they have to make a choice. Elliott is worth more as a proven player. Allen is their starter-in-waiting. He will be cheaper for them to re-sign. He has a longer career ahead of him. STL is going to need some longer term cost-cutting. They have a few prospects that could take on the backup role, or just go with a cheap backup. They have a defensive team that can mitigate the loss of Elliott. Not sure what the asking price would be, but perhaps we could take Rattie off their hands with Elliott. Offer a combo of a 2nd, forward prospect, Bollig and a 3rd. Bollig is the only salary they take back, but would even drop that.
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Regular season results show him to be a good to great goalie. No problem with that. I was tempering that with playoff results as they tend to show a trend. Unable to perform when needed. Whether that was due to the team letting him down or he has traits that get exposed during a series; who knows. Would he be an upgrade? Absolutely. Seeing where Elliott fit in, I would tend to rate the top 3 available in trade (without seeing Bishop's) as: Elliott MAF Andersen Best option for a FA signing: Reimer
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^^^^^ Where does Elliott fit in that chart? You can also see why Vasilevskiy is a concern. Great high-danger, but not good elsewhere. While MAF shines overall, I still worry about being stuck protecting him in any expansion draft. Maybe we find out that the next one won't be until 2019/20, in which case it won't matter. The other thing is his less than stellar playoff record. Other than the last two seasons, he has dropped the puck.
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I have questions about Vasilevskiy's game. I liked most of what I saw in the playoffs, but I was looking at his regular season results. Not exactly impressive. He played against a lot of non-playoff teams, and had about 9 wins against them. Not as impressive against playoff teams in the regular season. That may be due to being rusty, but it's worrysome.
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The Penguins are in a very precarious situation with MAF. He controls the list of trade options. If expansion is announced, then he could block a trade to a team needing a goalie. The possible way out would be to buy out the contract next summer. 4 years of $2m in dead cap space, but you keep the goalie you want to protect. If they traded him to the Flames, is it an option not to carry over the NMC? I have heard differing opinions on that. If that was the case, then it presents no issues to us protecting Fleury. If it carries forward, we would have the option to buyout as well, no matter how ugly that is. If we are trading for a goalie, I want to be in the best possible situation come expansion. I'm not willing to protect a goalie unless he has years ahead of him as a starter. Andersen, Bishop, Elliott....Otherwise, throw the net out there and sign a FA for a short term, and not worry about losing him.
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Too funny. They made all the right decisions, but the goalies didn't do their part. Do you think coaching may have lead to their demise as much as questionable choices? The most recent goalie we had with any value was Kipper. Wasn't that Dutter and his goalie coach at the time Marcoux? Since then we had 3 years of Malarchuk and 2 years of Sigalet. In all that time, the only goalie besides Kipper to enjoy any improvement was Ramo. And it seemed that he only got better this year after he changed his style a bit.
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I don't know how much scouting you do of European goalies, but I suspect the Flames actively do. That's not a shot. He was likely seen as much as any of the other unsigned talent in the other Euro leagues. Pribyl had been scouted for the last year, so I suspect they do their job similarly with goalies.
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Let's hope that unlike Ramo he is unfloppable.
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FlamesNation @FlamesNation 37m37 minutes ago Reported: Apparently the #Flames have signed David Rittich to a one-year two-way deal. http://hokej.idnes.cz/hokej-nhl-david-rittich-calgary-dmy-/nhl.aspx?c=A160610_144339_nhl_cig … At least an option for the farm. Long term prospect, I guess. A little bit more info: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Todd-Cordell/Report-Calgary-Flames-Sign-Goaltender-David-Rittich/202/77470 I guess he Czechs a few of the boxes.
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You forget that Hayes played on RW at BC, so he does fill a need for a top 9 RW. In NY he was used a lot at center. I don't have some notion that he would be a world beater with Johnny. I said he would work his butt off to get the chance. Arnold has not lived up to the hype he had with Johnny, so I don't think the BC connection matters to how well they could play. What I see as an option is a bigger RW, that had initial success in the NHL. He's had two reasonable seasons in the NHL, 45 and 36 points. What we have now is Frolik and a bunch of guys that don't excel on RW. I have no beliefs that two players from the same country = gold, or two brothers are magic (ie Hamilton's).
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CGY was on the short list, so I don't know why you think he didn't want to play here. He was offered a NHL roster spot without ever having skated in a practice. As well, the move was a couple of hundred miles for a kid that grew up and went to college in Boston. If anything, he would play his butt off to impress. He would kill to play on Johnny's line.
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I only say that because there are too many teams needing this type of player. EDM will pay more than we can afford. Dallas would love him. Teams in the East need him. Frolik had a limited group of teams that really wanted him. WPG made the mistake of not signing him.
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There is speculation Brouwer will be a 5 year deal in the 5-7m range. Crazy talk. I don't think there is any way for us to fit him in, even if we moved all bad salaries out.
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I may be mistaken, but if you don't QO a player, doesn't he become a UFA? I will preface this by saying I don't have a problem with Colborne at a reasonable contract value. He has some tools that may not have been used properly. Hayes would be a solid trade, as he brings back a player in a position we need (RW), for a player that hasn't done well on RW. At least I feel he hasn't. Hayes is coming out of a ELC, so would be cheaper to sign. NY got him for nothing, so a versatile player coming back would be a reasonable return. I don't believe he is going to get $3m+ from the Flames. That might prevent a deal, but I think it's reasonable. Another trade option would be Bouma for Hayes. A known contract value for a RFA. Bouma may not have the scoring that NY would prefer, but he gives them a toughness that Hayes doesn;t bring.
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You may be right. He only had 11 games in the regular season with them, so they may believe he didn't have time to adapt.
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I think he is in the "show me" category this season. Bouma should have gotten a one-year deal, arbitration or not. You shouldn't get rewarded for 2 years of meh and one year of decent. A one-year deal would be ideal. You sign him for less than $3m (ideally > $2.5m) and he earns the next deal by showing he is more than a "end of season" player. He controls his next payday. It raises his value also as a trade chip, should we decide he doesn't fit the long term vision.
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What he was signed for in Calgary was what he was worth to us. It made no sense for us to re-sign him for $4m or more. At the start of the year, he was a league worst (IIRC) -17 and didn't exactly make Hamilton look any better. You could possibly blame some of that on Hartley, as the strategies used last year had been exposed. I tend to think he was just an average player that had better results in a season where we surprised the league. I think he will get a raise. Dallas may re-sign him, but I don't think it will be more than $4m. He wasn't the reason they lost. He did seem to suffer the same way he did with the Flames; last line of defense with a bad goalie, use stretch passes to exit. When he had room to skate, he used to be a strong puck carrier.
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Stockton Heat Updates [2016-2017]
travel_dude replied to travel_dude's topic in Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects
That makes sense. I know with the Finns, it's a different story as they have to do mandatory military service. That's obviously unrelated to playing hockey oversees, but an interesting aside. There was some discussion about this in the draft class thread. -
Stockton Heat Updates [2016-2017]
travel_dude replied to travel_dude's topic in Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects
Isn't he supposed to play in Sweden this coming year if he doesn't go to the NHL? I read that somewhere, but don't remember if it was a credible source. -
The biggest sticking point seems to be the dollar value. He's big, covers the net well, is a good coach, manages equipment like there's no tomorrow, makes a mean omelet. He sounds like he is ready to sign a Flames offer. Doesn't think it will take long.
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Between him and Bouma, who would you shop first? Bouma fit on a Hartley team where sacrificing your body every shift was expected. In an aggressive PK, does Bouma fit the mold? I get the desire to move on. His hockey sense is less than perfect. He cycles the puck, but then doesn't do anything with it. He takes dumb penalties. On the plus side, he is one of the few players to go to the net and screen the goalie. He could do with a Pavelski type practice of deflecting pucks, though. The only other forward that could be used in that role is Ferland. I agree with the Burke statement that he doesn't get $3.4m for scoring in the last 26 games of the year. You get that for being consistent and by bringing other tools with you.
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Well Janko is a center, so I don't believe that's his competition. But anyway... I agree that the timing of the points streak (something like 26 points in his final 26 games) is suspect. The thing he managed to do was be in the right place for tips and rebounds. He wasn't driving the play, but he was finishing. Not to crap on Bouma, but in his career year, his shooting % was sky high compared to his normal output. Two different players, but the versatility of Joe outweighs the niche player like Bouma. Bouma brings heart and soul, blocking and hitting, but Joe gives you options. Possibly even a new gear. Bottom line is that it comes down to cap available. I can see them fitting Joe in, but other things have to be done. Can never have too many players able to score 40 points.
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Stockton Heat Updates [2016-2017]
travel_dude replied to travel_dude's topic in Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects
If I had seeen some production out of Grant, I would have been more keen on re-signing him. Points leader on the Baby Flames with less games played. Just can't seem to put it together in the NHL. Maybe a new NHL coach would help him, but I don't know that there is any room for him on the roster. It's hard to hold a spot for someone that doesn't score. He battles hard, but you have to choose between him and a player like Jooris. Jooris has produced at the NHL level and could become a valuable depth option for the Flames. Grant, I'm not so sure. -
I think you undervalue what a player that scores 44 points is worth. Especially a center/winger. If it came down to Joe or Bouma, I choose Joe. Kreider and Hayes both had similar years, and earned/will earn more than $2.5m. I'm ok with Joe at $2.5m. He's a top 9 player. Not a Backlund. More upside than Stajan or Bouma. If Anaheim wanted Joe, then I would trade him for a goalie. Same with STL.
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I think he will get offered something around $2.5m on a one year deal. He has to prove his consistency with the team and not simply an end-of-year player. Don't get me wrong, I like the player (most of the time). He has games where you see his possible potential, then he has shifts where you think he has no hockey sense. I'm convinced that BT will do a short-term deal, to keep the cap manageable and still allow him to get a better deal in the following year. He would likely get more in arbitration (assuming he has rights), but the Flames would only accept a one-year deal that way anyway. They might even walk away, but would be more likely to trade him before year end. I don't think Philly wants to trade Neuvirth. He won 2/3 in the playoffs, plus played 32 games this year.
