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Come on 29......

Well, I think we were specific in what we wanted back. Perhaps we got less than we should have, but the conditional pick may still be a thing. The funny thing is that any of the teams that didn't get Tanev are out (COL, TOR, TBL). EDM is the exception, but that was never going to happen. Come the end of the playoffs, 30 teams will wonder if they have the right #1 goalie going forward. Some are under extreme pressure to actually win a round in the playoffs, while others were undone by just okay goaltending. Teams that barely missed making the playoffs would be interested, assuming they haven't resolved it yet, or in the right genesis of their team to compete now.

Maybe a cost controlled (for now) LW with the nickname Bread would be a fair swap. Not it's not really fair, but under Rod, he might become a player again. I think we need to get a little bigger or at least more sturdy. Mange doesn't do it for me now. It just seems like a waste to pay him to ride Backlund's line, when that should be for the new guys that need defensive help. I think the numbers may be low enough that the arbitration award would be low enough to make it a reasonable cap hit for a year. Think he would fit like a glove here.

Skinner played 59 in the regular season, so no doubt he is burned out. The option of going to the goalie (again) with 2 NHL playoffs games is just as risky. That happens when you spend your load on everything but goalies. What did they target at TDL? Forwards. Henrique with one game in the 2nd round. Quite the trade. A furst and 4th and 5th. No worry about the upgrade conditions. LOL

In a game where one OT goal called back for heavy breathing, the right team got the win. AVS are no longer the powerhouse that the anal-ysts claim them to be. Nate is from my hometown, but it's hard to say much nice about him. Other than his skills. They have to get better at making calls, either on or off the ice. Call it a goal and the sit room decides if it was worthy calling it back. No goal on the ice, and it's already biased to make it seem like no goal. TO doesn't like to overrule the refs. And added to this, it was an elimination game, so they erred on the side that extends the series. Best team won. They are my 2nd pick after the Flames. Cowboys and Stars.

The QO is $3.5M and I get that he is eligible for arbitration. What would you consider too expensive? Slightly more than Mangiapane? Or $7M+ ?

Perhaps we can just retire this version of the BT thread. We don't still talk about Feaster, who started the issues or Burke that was a big part. GM's not related to CGY are in the NHL thread. We don't have a Dubas or Holland thread there, just the general NHL GM one. No reason to have this one kept going. IMHO.

Necas for Markstrom plus something would be a big win for us.

Well that series was a mess from game 1 onwards. Not sure what the plan was. Let McD wind up speed? Let Drai loaf around and not check him? Take penalties? I thought that VAN played all but the first period well. They were able to keep the Oiler PP off the board at least. They were playing with fire all night. 5 PP's. The one on Petey was stupid. Janmark skated into him, and he just stood his ground. Charging while standing still? Wasn't a pick because he didn't move to get in the guy's way. IMHO. EDM will likely go back to Skinner. Pickard didn't lose them the game. But Skinner is their guy in the organization.

Well, that came down to game 82 didn't it. Oh well, the loss of the 2025 2nd means we get a better 2024 3rd. Not sure of the order for their picks this year. The unknown 2nd would have been nice, though. At worst, still better than a 3rd.

Okay, so from a Flames perspective, we get a RW a lesser D and a LW that has name recognition. He had a decent NHL season. And a prospect. What it really does is open up a RD spot. Right now we have three top 4 RHS RD. And we lose the goalie we are thinking it's the right time to trade. Marner is only uselfull if we re-sign him or trade him, since we aren't contending anytime soon. His age makes him okay to re-sign but we can't pay him that kind of money long term. We would need to not continue his NTC if we got him and trade him for a HUGE haul at TDL. We make that known to teams before the season starts. Quietly. The trade that never will happen. Interesting, and probably gives TO a goalie that makes no difference. Maybe Ras replaces Gio. Maybe makes them a little better but not much.

Gosh, who would ever listen to their boss when they know he is wrong? You can blame the GM for decisions that he has complete control over. A new GM has a smaller circle. Considering what he was left with by Dubas, I think he had a very small circle. BT was probably thinking that TO had less interference by the owners than CGY. Was probably initially cool with the Pres having input instead. That lasted until the draft was over. I doubt he had any ability to trade the core 4 if he thought it would benefit the team the most. I don't have any real insight, just how things appeared to shake out there over the years.

Catton seems like what we would go for, but I doubt the order you listed is even close to what gets picked. Yes, they will be all gone by our VAN pick, but that's all I can even be 90% cerian on. Teams' scouts see the world differently and have many things to weigh. Not as simplistic as consensus rankings. Anyway, we can just wait until the pick to trash the fact we get a LHS LW at 9. LOL. This and the next 2 drafts will help decide our future. We have some good D in the system, but I am a little concerned about the F's.

They don't show the hit that he put on the VAN player just before. The hot was a typical crosscheck, but it looks brutal. That messed up Monahan way back when. They aren't suspending crosschecks much, so only Bettman would change that. All in all, I thought EDM brought on a lot of what they got. You start acting tough, then you should expect being hit. Zaddy almost cost them the game at least once. His number is in the minds of the refs, so he won't get any free passes. Anyway, the game was fun to watch. Skinner is bad.

Point to the guy that has spanned all of TO's losses in the playoffs against BOS; Shanny. The GM had zero say as to who played those final games. The coach had to appease the players. A new GM isn't going to have much input. Shanny would call in Keefe and BT separate to tell them what is what. Just like Burke initially told BT who to get, Shanny told BT. This little circle is your area of influence. We pay you to tow the line. The fans said what they want to see. Shanny took that and his wide knowledge of hockey and decided what to keep.

Well, I don't know. CV was probably a mostly NHL has been team that seemed to score. It's not 100% an AHL goalie going to the NHL being a struggle issue for Wolf. He got out of rythym not playing for too long and being a backup in the NHL... To being the guy in the AHL playoffs. Not enough runway to get up to speed. He's going to need to be a 1b goalie in the AHl to really have much success. Sure, the backup route can get you there, but might take longer. You have to learn the NHL shots and not sit there watching. He got scored on in the NHL by playing AHL goalie. Lose the net. Play too deep against players that can hit a 3 inch square in the top corner. That is experience.

I think this thread is about other teams and coaches, since we have lots of discussion about the Flames elsewhere. I don't think Huska is that good a coach, but I don't think it so much matter yet. That's all about that. I think Keefe should have been relieved of duty well before this year's exit. DJ Smith was (at least in my mind) a better coach, but he didn't last. Lots of the firings just seem to be a signal to the fans that the GM isn't happy with the outcome and the coach is the first to go.

Whether it was the pro scouts or the players brought in over time that just didn't quite fit, the results were a lot of wasted picks for what Connie had left to use. The Gustophson, Forbort, Jatnkrok, etc trades were the ones that bothered me, since we just took on TDL players for the playoffs. Jarnkrok should have been a better fit, but perhaps the wrong players on a line with him. A lot of picks for a 12 playoff games. What is funny that the pro scouts looked at Sharky and saw something there. Or the right time to call up Pospisil and Zary. I'm not exactly sure how the D that we got from DAL and SJS will work out, but only the Dallas trade is a costly one. I liked so far what I have seen, but who knows.

I think there is a slightly better chance of the 1st in 2026 being better than say 2025. They have some really good G's. Gonna lose a few players this summer.

well, as far as getting a really good player goes, it would be a good trade. The questionable part for me is the $10+M salary and sending 6. He just rurned 27, so a young 27 (if there was one). A different spin would be Mangiapane for Marner as them dumping cap.

The Dallas pick is a very very hard road to get it. The upgraded VGK one jumps a year but only needs one more win. The VAN pick is at best a 50/50 shot right now; EDM hasn't really faced a true tough team. LA can be tough to play, but never really showed it this playoffs.

If you look at Gaudreau before they worked on his defensive play, you might see a somewhat one-dimensional player. I know that JG brought other things to the table that Kuz maybe doesn't do, but then again Kuz is able to withstand hits a bit better. I tend to think that you can find the balance with a player you hold to account, but also provide some belief in his abilities.

As a Mod, I normally created threads barely in advance of a game, if I noticed nobody had created a thread. RocketDoc was usually early, so I would know those days it was covered. The sign-up thread was used for some time, but once the Flames started dropping out, it stagnated a bit. The idea of incentives is great. Maybe have more than one willing to do a GDT. I have some trouble doing justice to the thread quality, but that's what I have to work with on my PC.

I think they will go after a well known player in FA, but none of the ones mentioned so far. Lack of C's in the UFA class would seem to imply that they might target a LD. I do hope they use Markstrom to bring back a decent forward, maybe a C.

It was an embarrasment to the league. No goal on the ice, you can't see the puck in his glove but somehow now you can extrapolate that it must be in? The other calls and non-calls made it pretty obvious that the refs were one sided in their approach. If VAN or NSH play them next series, it will be a much different looking series. VAN plays a much better run and gun game than EDM does. EDM has one player that does it and the other one stands around. And VAN has potentially 3 goalies that can stop the Douche Bomb TM. Perhaps they will ditch the homer coverage with Louie for a much more even call like the one the Flames get. Millen. Singh is okay, but a bit too excited for my liking. Not as much choice this year with all the ESPN coverage they are using.