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Running out of head coach jobs being vailable. I think the thing is whether he can operate under a head coach in the NHL. If anything is certain, you pay your dues in the Flames org. A/coach gets you the chance to take over at some point. Gives you the NHL experience. Sees what you can do with a team. I'm not the biggest Huska fan, but he is the choice right now. Can he be more than a defensive coach. Can he work with the players like he says he's going to do.

Not paying much attention to the end of the game once they lost. So, is it the usualy douche-baggery we came to expect of him? More than likely. Am I glad he's gone? Secretly yes. I'm not upset about getting two of FLA's best players for him. His BS about BT not wanting to sign him long term. Yeah, okay that why you set up the QO of $9M to make it impossible to deal with. Especially since you are going to ask to be traded, yeah we all know that was his plan.

Not entirely sure what you expect a team to do. Oilers lost a lot of games because they didn't have McLotto. And the GM set them up to fail. Play as hard as they could, they couldn't win enough. We had a team that was close to a playoff spot, even though we had below average goaltending for most of the year. Only way we are losing 10 in a row to end a season is if you play garbage teams with less than your regular roster. I'm not going to blames the coach or players for winning about 5 of 10. That's why they play. We played the players that Sutter would use in a playoff game, so we weren't sitting anyone like the old 4th line.Now, had we decided to use the backup or Wolf 10 games sooner, and played the guys looking fr a full time job next season, we might have had a different fate. Playoffs or better draft pick. Or exactly the same. At least we might have seen more giddyup in games where we looked ready for the glue factory.

It's a weird sequence. Pietrangelo in the box with 17 seconds left. Game over when time ran out. He comes on the ice and gets in a fight. So technically, he was not allowed in fight with enayone. Tkachuk being the idiot he shows at times and fighting with no time left. "Fighting" as in wrestling with someone, since I can't remember the last time he's chucked knuckles.

You should always makes moves that work together.Move Backlund to get a decent D. Use Hanifin to get a decent top 6 player. We don't have pending un-signed players that could get ugly. Whether you believe Kylington can replace Hanifin, we bring in a player that can add by committee.

Unfortunately, #2 and #3 collide. Gaudreau was in the #3 list but turned into #2. Bennett was turned into a bottom 6 player and we got a little for him. We wasted an entire draft and decised to not bother signing them. Poor asset management. Not that they were great players, but losing a young player before they even leave junior is dumb. We make decent draft choices, so when we have picks we do okay. Sutter lead the GM to believe we were closer to contender than not. Our pro scouting is suspect IMHO. Whether the coaching and chosen targets are on the same page, won't know which is the problem. Who decided that Neal and Brouwer were the right players? When we got Huberdeau, how did we determine that he should play on the 2nd line and develop his defensive game, on the RW? We have several impact players on their last year. I'm okay with Lindholm because he will have 5 years that are near top of his game. Longer than that is riskier. Backlund may have 2 years left that is similar. Hanifin hasn't really improved, and his value may be higher in trade. Tanev is a beast but not Gudas beast level. Tanev will normally suffer one moderate to serious injury per season. He's the best defensive D-man we have, but still has issues clearing the front of the net. All of these players have to be considered assets and not "forever Flames".

The format of the AHL playoffs is really stupid. Home ice means you get a choice of first 2 or last 3? They played some of the playoff games B2B.

Didn't sign him? You mean we don't use him in a trade? Perhaps we should have traded Pelletier over him; that's the better question.

Yeah, I'm kinda circling back on that trade. I'm not sure the GM would do it, since he seems keen on re-signing EL. But, if he can't build the team the way it needs to be built, he may just have to trade him. Can't just hope and pray. EDIT - It's not just a draft pick, which is why I am more on board this one. Of course if all the great choices are gone by 16, then the pick might not be worth as much to us.

Not exactly sure how you feel about him. Could you elaborate? LOL I would take Hubey over him for his attitude, and the only thing about him that is a plus is he's a C. And because you don't see quite with Hubey. Anyway, back to draft thoughts. Is Musty your top choice for the player you think will still be there?

That's a lot of moving parts for a draft pick. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hubey has a full NMC. Lindholm + 5 overall is pretty steep for just moving up 2 spots. Yeah, I know. Any ideas that isn't a complete rebuild?

Sorry about posting it in the wrong thread. My bad. Has 2 open. Duh. Fair assessment. How's about PLD? I don't think you are big on Sheifele these days.

Since this is off-season thread, I noticed that Debrincat wants to be traded. His Qualifying Offer is $9M. The original trade cost the 7th overall and a 2nd and a 3rd in 3rd in 2024. Had a bit of a down season. Has zero trade protection, but would only sign with certain teams. Sounds like Tkachuk. So, if they would do a similar trade value, would it be worth it for a 40 goal scorer more than once. Less of a passer, but adds 10+ PPG per season. Not as long a shelf life as a newly drafted player, but a known quantity. Costly, but in two years the cap will increase by a considerable amount. Might have to include Backlund or Coleman to make the money work this year.

While I respect Friendman's insider stuff, I don't know the valifity of this one. Flames are not known for alerting media of upcoming changes. But to the point, how is it that the coach gets fired again and the A/coach gets the gig? How has that worked here? It hasn't. It's a cheap solution.

So, what is your feeling on Simashev vs Reinbacher, should he drop. Reason I ask is some suggest that Simashev might go and Reinbacher drop. Which would you prefer?

A year before he was the early season MVP. a year after that he was the goat. He's between the two. We don't have to move either to give starts to Wolf. Trading Vladar in the summer is fine if you get a 2nd or better return. But, timing might make better sense to hold off until there is a bigger need elsewhere. Should a LTI situation happen somewhere, he would be a solid trade. If Markstrom gets injured, we have no backup if we have moved Vladar.

I heard the same thing about when. Latest is that Muller is out. Down to the main ones including Love, Huska, Green, and Reirdon. Thought I also heard Tanguay was still in there.

Oh for sure. Kylington was an attractive option if they wanted a young D, but Gio had more trade value as a known quantity and reputational status. The draft cost of protecting Gio by offering a premium to SEA was prohibitive for sure. In an alternative universe where we trade Gio before the expansion, we lose another player, more likely Kylington. It was a calculated move and the cost to protect Gio was a non starter. We had traded Bennett before the draft, so he would have replaced Dube or Backlund or Mangiapane. All of this to come back to the point that the Flames should not worry about UFA's unless they are important ones. Letting Lewis and Lucic go isn't a big deal.

Well, Kylington wasn't protected. The only way they protect either him or Gio was to expose three of the F including the likes of Mikael Backlund, Johnny Gaudreau, Matthew Tkachuk, Sean Monahan, Elias Lindholm, Dillon Dube and Andrew Mangiapane. I get what you are saying though and don't really dispute it. We will be letting a few UFA's go this summer. If it makes sense, then we keep a pending UFA through that last year and try to re-sign them or let them go.

You look at FLA's success in the playoffs and see how a guy like Gudas impacts them. Clears out the front of the net, slows down the zone entry, etc. He does what Tanev does, but more sturdy and capable of removing the trash. And with him being injured in game 1, you saw the impact.

Did I say anything about downgrading the 1st? But since you mentioned using the 3rd, we don't have a 3rd this year. Columbus doesn't have a 2nd in 2024 but we do. Big risk because we likely give up the 2024 1st in the Monahan deal and would have nothing until the 3rd round if we traded the 2nd for a 2024 2nd with CBJ. We can possibly recoup a 2nd in the 2024 draft at a later date. So, it comes back to what is trending to go late 1st or early 2nd. Is 1st overall in the 2nd round worth it? I think so, if we see certain picks available. CBJ might do this because they have 2 x 3rd rounders, theirs being 1st in the 3rd round. Next year they would have a 2nd and 2 x 3rds again. A little better spaced out.

Reinbacher is one of the top 3 D available no doubt. He is rated 8,9,10 then 15,16, then in the 20's. Simashev is all over the map. TBH, I would be looking at potential fallers from round 1. Guys that fall into the 2nd. Upgrade the 2nd pick. Only if the guy you want is available.

A dump cost you picks. Smart trades could bring you a later 1st, since the teams ok with trading them have later picks. No point in being conflicted, since it will never happen. If we look at the players and not take BPA to get Reinbacher at 16, then it doesn't make a lot of sense to stay that high in the draft.

Kylington indeed looks ready to step back into the league. He has been skating etc for some time now.

Well, we get cap space insurance and a top scoring winger. If he isn't re-signing, then we trade him at TDL for huge return. And we make room for Wolf.