Psychotron Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 He has a very bright future but he needs to play pro before he jumps straight into the NHL. Everyone can see that he's got fantastic potental but just because a player tears it up in the minor leagues it does not mean that he'll tear it up in the NHL. Give him at last one year in the AHL for him to polish his game before he jumps into the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUS Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I watch it. The guy in couple of years will be leader Flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslinger Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 He has a very bright future but he needs to play pro before he jumps straight into the NHL. Everyone can see that he's got fantastic potental but just because a player tears it up in the minor leagues it does not mean that he'll tear it up in the NHL. Give him at last one year in the AHL for him to polish his game before he jumps into the big leagues. What he^ said. The NHL is MUCH different from Major Junior. The AHL is a nice way to transition between the two. The problem with Ryder, from what I can see from a distance, is his defensive game. That's usually the problem with kids coming out of Junior. At this point it's not clear to me that he will ever be a regular NHLer, nevermind a star. He's got a lot of work to do on his defense, intensity, physical game and skating before he can make an impact in the NHL. Guys like Nystrom, Boyd and Prust are much further ahead and will almost certainly make the jump to the NHL before Ryder. Keep in mind that Michael Ryder spent several years in the AHL before joining the Habs. Even so, his skating and defense are still suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 How about Daniel Ryder's skating? If he can't skate, he's not going to get far if his defence is as suspect as mentioned. Daniel Tkaczuk should be the poster boy for highly-touted prospects who've flopped b/c they look like they're skating in mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody1774 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 A deceptive skater, Ryder was always impressive defensively and was a fixture on the penalty kill. That's a quote from hockeyfutures.com. I sometimes question how accurate they are, but according to them he is "impressive defensively". They also have a quote from a scout on that page that says: he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 He's a smaller player and a lot of smaller players don't really "arrive" into the NHL until they age. Briere, Sullivan, St.Louis, etc didn't really peak until they were 25, 26, 27-years-old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslinger Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 That's a quote from hockeyfutures.com. I sometimes question how accurate they are, but according to them he is "impressive defensively". They also have a quote from a scout on that page that says:Unfortunately we do not get a chance to see enough Junior games IMO, so I have to turn to sites like this to provide me with information. I hope they are legit, and are posting accurate information. Being impressive defensively in Junior means very little when applied to his NHL potential. Same goes for skating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroy24Regehr28 Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 sutters rule is to play in the CHL or whatever league then go to the AHL without being called up and then maybe get your chance at the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 sutters rule is to play in the CHL or whatever league then go to the AHL without being called up and then maybe get your chance at the NHL. Sutter's philosophy is to let players play in juniors/minors until they are ready to play. If they are ready they will be given a shot. If they arn't they won't be rushed. Its the most successful way to control and develope a team's prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseflame Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Sutter's philosophy is to let players play in juniors/minors until they are ready to play. If they are ready they will be given a shot. If they arn't they won't be rushed. Its the most successful way to control and develope a team's prospects. I heard Ryder was sent home from training camp. Does anyone know if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lombardi Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I heard Ryder was sent home from training camp. Does anyone know if this is true. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8471737&service=page' target="_blank">http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=PlayerDeta...mp;service=page[/post] as long as his name appears on this roster, he is still at training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney_Gumble Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I heard Ryder was sent home from training camp. Does anyone know if this is true. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=PlayerDeta...mp;service=page as long as his name appears on this roster, he is still at training camp. That, and since training camp doesn't start until September 14th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neufy_3 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Ryder's definitely not ready to play in the NHL. Nowhere near ready. He'll get a chance to work on his defense and skating once he hits Quad City though and maybe (if he improves quickly enough), he could make the jump to the NHL in a couple of years. Although, all I ever heard about him really was how he's better than his brother was during this stage of his career. If we end of getting a slightly better version of Michael Ryder for a 3rd round pick, I'll be more than pleased... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Ryder's definitely not ready to play in the NHL. Nowhere near ready. He'll get a chance to work on his defense and skating once he hits Quad City though and maybe (if he improves quickly enough), he could make the jump to the NHL in a couple of years.Although, all I ever heard about him really was how he's better than his brother was during this stage of his career. If we end of getting a slightly better version of Michael Ryder for a 3rd round pick, I'll be more than pleased... He is a better version of his brother from a skill perspective, but people shouldn't get too excited about that (this is not directed to you). What made Michael Ryder able to make the jump to the NHL was his sound all around game and that he is a finisher. Finishers are easier to develop because it is easier for them to adjust to different speeds in different leagues. Dan Ryder is more of a playmaker, with finishing ability, and thus needs more work than his brother and also making it tough to compare to him to his brother. Howeve, provided Ryder keeps a positive work ethic and attitude, he should be in the NHL at some point and hopefully as a 2nd line center, but that may be a bit optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roasted_marshmallow Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 So apparently Ryder was excused from camp. Also apparently there are rumours out there that he's quitting hockey for good due to personal reasons. Now, we don't post rumours about player's personal lives, but I hope for Ryder's sake it's nothing serious and I hope for the Flames sake he comes back. This is as per Rob Kerr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseflame Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 So apparently Ryder was excused from camp. Also apparently there are rumours out there that he's quitting hockey for good due to personal reasons. Now, we don't post rumours about player's personal lives, but I hope for Ryder's sake it's nothing serious and I hope for the Flames sake he comes back. This is as per Rob Kerr. So was he at training camp the last two days or is he home in Newfounland? Can some one that knows for sure tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neufy_3 Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 So apparently Ryder was excused from camp. Also apparently there are rumours out there that he's quitting hockey for good due to personal reasons. Now, we don't post rumours about player's personal lives, but I hope for Ryder's sake it's nothing serious and I hope for the Flames sake he comes back. This is as per Rob Kerr. I'm not liking how it seems like all of our rookies are dropping like flies. Hopefully those rumours are false, I wouldn't want to lose a potentially decent NHLer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 So apparently Ryder was excused from camp. Also apparently there are rumours out there that he's quitting hockey for good due to personal reasons. Now, we don't post rumours about player's personal lives, but I hope for Ryder's sake it's nothing serious and I hope for the Flames sake he comes back.This is as per Rob Kerr. <Check's calendar...nope, not April 1st> Son of a <bleep>! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathycasi21 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 oh jeez..I was soo excited about our rookies too but they are dropping like flies. What the heck is happening. I hope to God that it isn't true but if it is I hope that it's not too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie_Kwan Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Great news It sounds like he came back at the end of camp and then was sent to QC. http://flames.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=3...mp;service=page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Great news It sounds like he came back at the end of camp and then was sent to QC.http://flames.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=3...mp;service=page[/post] To comfirm that, he did report to QC and had 2 points in his first game. No quiting for him. Ryder has 2 points in Pro hockey debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuel_the_Flames Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 To comfirm that, he did report to QC and had 2 points in his first game. No quiting for him. http://stats.theahl.com/stats/statdisplay.php?type=skaters&subType=18&season_id=12&&leagueId=4&lastActive=&singleSeason=' target="_blank">Ryder has 2 points in Pro hockey debut[/post] Good deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lombardi Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Funny how the leading scorer in goals and points is a defenseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Funny how the leading scorer in goals and points is a defenseman and a guy who looked terrible at training camp. I still don't hold any hope for the guy as he looked lost in training camp and alwasy was a step behind and rushing decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross16 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 As per Rob Kerr and the Fan 960. Dan Ryder has been suspended by the Quad City Flames for leaving the team without permission. He is no longer on the roster, and I'm afraid this is the last we'll likely see of Dan Ryder. It was rumored in the summer he was contemplating quitting hockey, missed two camps, and now looks like the decision has finally come. although I am speculating, but I just don't why else you suddenly up and leave a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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