checkerman Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I think every one out of the playoffs gets 1 ball, after that everyone in the playoffs gets 1 ball. Second round goes by standing finishes. That elimates tanking. Most of all I would like to SEE it live. If you draft well, you don't need a first overall to become a Franchise player. ( see Geo or Mony or Johnny ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 32969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccsberg Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 What numbers are those? Rechecked and looks OK. I forgot that your Pts required for wildcard spot is not the same number as required to make the playoffs. Essentially we've just got to beat LAK(or Vancouver) to the finish line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 You are the one constantly talking about the value of a top 3 pick. If the poor teams get them they become better teams. Or at least have the opportunity to be better teams. If the top picks go to good teams the rich get richer and the poor stay poor. The NHL won't let that fly. I like having the bottom 5 picks being up for the lottery. I like that they have opened the lottery to all non playoff teams. I like that they flattened the lottery odds (I would like them even flatter). But I doubt you are ever going to see a flat lottery that includes the playoff teams. And I don't think you should because that puts too much power to random chance. I meant to suggest all non-playoff teams get seeded for the first round based on a non-weighted lottery. Playoff teams don't get to enter the lottery. One main reason teams suck is because they trade away players to finish lower in the standings. By not offering an incentive for be lower in the standings, we won't see teams trade away players. You may even see many non-playoff teams add players at the TDL even when they are at the basement of the league. Teams improve in the standings by simply playing better rather than by turning over their roster as we have seen in the league. You will simply see "hockey trades" instead of trades for tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfreining Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 One main reason teams suck is because they trade away players to finish lower in the standings. You will simply see "hockey trades" instead of trades for tanking. I see tanking on one side and getting rid of some players that may not be part of the future plans. Let it be expiring contracts, contracts that block a rebuild or players that are good but have been sorted out or requested a trade(Bouwmeester comes to mind). As soon as you give away players for picks it would be tanking. I am not sure if it is that simple... this has been the sellers/buyers issue since I have been following the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccsberg Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I meant to suggest all non-playoff teams get seeded for the first round based on a non-weighted lottery. Playoff teams don't get to enter the lottery. One main reason teams suck is because they trade away players to finish lower in the standings. By not offering an incentive for be lower in the standings, we won't see teams trade away players. You may even see many non-playoff teams add players at the TDL even when they are at the basement of the league. Teams improve in the standings by simply playing better rather than by turning over their roster as we have seen in the league. You will simply see "hockey trades" instead of trades for tanking. Agree that it should change the parameters for GMs as much more risky tanking because far less chance of getting one of the top picks. It will be interesting to see which way it goes over the next few years, as well as this year. It would be great to see #1 overall go to someone in the 17-25th position... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstrike Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Mods, you want to move all the drafting talk to a new or existing thread, it's kinda cluttering up this playoff thread? Granted I might've started the snowball with the standings eval with a new points system. Btw Calgarians, it is 23*C where I live right now, be jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfreining Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Btw Calgarians, it is 23*C where I live right now, be jealous. Calgarians are proud of the -30°C and the snow that can happen at any time of the year. Why would they be jealous about the tropic temperatures you are experiencing? No..... if you want to respond to my post..... don't discuss the weather any further then the draft stuff.... this is the Flames playoff thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Even hurricane forces cannot push Carolina into the playoffs now. Next year territory for you - RIP. I am awed by Ottawa's surge into the East picture. I would love to see a similar finish by the Flames. OOT not co-operating so the Flames must continue to pay their own way into the playoffs. It looks like MIN & WPG have now shut the door on any far-fetched dreams DAL or COL had at a WC. SJS is now also extremely unlikely to bite anyone with continued strong play by VAN, CGY, and LAK. 3 teams & 2 spots in the Pacific up for grabs barring a MIN or WPG collapse for a WC chance. 33359 Reminder - Record Needed is for a projected WC spot. Actual pts for 2nd/3rd in Pacific may be lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_henning Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Boston must not be happy at all tonight. Thankfully we are. But man, every team in the race is keeping it on fire with their play of late. SJS can pretty much be officially counted out though. So its really down to keeping ahead of LA the rest of the way or winning one more than WPG the rest of the way. No pressure or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 We put the nail in Colorado's coffin tonight. We need to do it again for Dallas on Wednesday. And what is with the OOT? I guess I am cheering for Winnipeg tomorrow against Vancouver. Winnipeg is too hot right now to fall out. That said, Vancouver is getting tough to catch with a game in hand and a better ROW. It is looking more and more like Calgary vs LA.Gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_henning Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm cheering for WPG for two reasons - get us closer to the Nucks, and to keep LAK out of a playoff spot. My least favourite Western Team is the Kings and if the three Canadian teams can work together to keep them out I'd be a very happy man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehatch Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm cheering for WPG for two reasons - get us closer to the Nucks, and to keep LAK out of a playoff spot. My least favourite Western Team is the Kings and if the three Canadian teams can work together to keep them out I'd be a very happy man. We have a better record in the last 10. We are up 2 points and have a better ROW for the tie breaker. We just need to keep up with their record in the next 9 and we are in. But the final game of the season is against LA. That might be the most important game in Calgary in a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKappa Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm still hoping for a canucks collapse, we all know how they perform under pressure They are 2 points up and a game on hand but they have some tough games left, except for the last two unfortunately. LA also has a tough next 4. Hopefully we can get some luck in the OOT scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_henning Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'd still take the Canucks in the playoffs over LA. That said, I'd rather have home ice in the playoffs so if they could go on enough of a skid to let us past, but keep ahead of LA, I'd be cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccsberg Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 We put the nail in Colorado's coffin tonight. We need to do it again for Dallas on Wednesday. And what is with the OOT? I guess I am cheering for Winnipeg tomorrow against Vancouver. Winnipeg is too hot right now to fall out. That said, Vancouver is getting tough to catch with a game in hand and a better ROW. It is looking more and more like Calgary vs LA.Gross. Yeah, its wild for sure, 2-3 losses in a row by anyone and its pretty much over. Flames versus LAK is tough, but as they say.... If you want to be the best you've got to beat the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_People1 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yup I'm cheering for Winnipeg so 2nd place in the Pacific is still within reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_dude Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yup I'm cheering for Winnipeg so 2nd place in the Pacific is still within reach. I think the best results is to have WPG win againt the Nucks twice. They can lose to the Habs, Hawks, Rangers, Blues, COL, and us, but beat thee Wild. That would give them 94 pts. LA and the Nucks can fight it out for 3rd in the Pacific and the last Wild Card spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cheering on both New York teams tonight. Hope they do us a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robrob1974 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Go Peg and the Yorks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invin Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 OOT scoreboard is just brutal every night it seems. Turn on the LA / NYR game and LA score 4 in a row, switch to MIN / NYI and Minnesota tie it. Can't catch a break anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfire11 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 NY teams didn't help us a bit tonight. Oh well we will just have to make it without any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_henning Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Seriously what the heck New York? Someone in that state hates Calgary. Shuts us out both games. Then tonight? FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC923 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Starting to look like 96 points might not be enough to get in. I think it will take 97 points, maybe even 98. We have to at least go 5-3-1 to get in with minimal help I think. If the nucks can finish the job tonight, the Jets might be the team to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our competition for playoff spots refuse to give us breathing space. A Winnipeg loss is a small consolation when it comes at the hands of a Nuck victory. No handouts so far. I guess we have to keep winning... 34022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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